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men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
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Do 'most' men shave/wax their chests? Really? That seems a little bit made up. There's a very small handful who do that, but I'd say 95% don't do so going by what you can see for yourself on any beach in the summer.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
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Do 'most' men shave/wax their chests? Really? That seems a little bit made up. There's a very small handful who do that, but I'd say 95% don't do so going by what you can see for yourself on any beach in the summer.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
Do 'most' men shave/wax their chests? Really? That seems a little bit made up. There's a very small handful who do that, but I'd say 95% don't do so going by what you can see for yourself on any beach in the summer.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
i may not see as many gay men as you, but the ones i did clearly wear eye liner/foundation at the very least. and i have been on 3 holidays last summer and all the males around where blatnently chest waxers- there is no doubtign that has become the cultural norm for men, also as portrayed in media. so then if they can adopt one gay habit, why not makeup?
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(Original post by WC2011)
if they can adopt one gay habit, why not makeup?
if they can adopt one gay habit, why not makeup?
Because that's the only REALLY gay habit there is.
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Do you think straight men will also start copying gay men by sleeping with men too?
Because that's the only REALLY gay habit there is.
Do you think straight men will also start copying gay men by sleeping with men too?
Because that's the only REALLY gay habit there is.
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men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
(Original post by russellsteapot)
Do 'most' men shave/wax their chests? Really? That seems a little bit made up. There's a very small handful who do that, but I'd say 95% don't do so going by what you can see for yourself on any beach in the summer.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
Do 'most' men shave/wax their chests? Really? That seems a little bit made up. There's a very small handful who do that, but I'd say 95% don't do so going by what you can see for yourself on any beach in the summer.
I don't know any gay men who wear makeup either if I'm honest, and I know a lot of gay men.
Despite this, I do think male makeup is slightly more socially accepted now, but I think that's been led more by pop culture (various musicians/actors seem to be makeup fans, particularly eyeliner, and obviously any pirate will adopt a bit of Jack Sparrow eyeliner these days) than by sexuality.
I also now some males who put on i think its called foundation. But my point is today's society is more relaxed about the social conventions regarding what a man should or shouldn't do same with females.
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so men saving their chests for cosmetic reasons was not originally a gay habit?
so men saving their chests for cosmetic reasons was not originally a gay habit?
And that implying that camp or effeminate is synonymous to gay is dismissive of large numbers of gay men.
And to imply that mainstream acceptance of men wearing makeup would be a new thing would demonstrate a substantial ignorance of history (as recent as the 80s as well as further back in time).
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I'd argue that men shaving for cosmetic reasons (like women shaving/waxing their genitals) has been encouraged and popularised by the porn industry actually
And that implying that camp or effeminate is synonymous to gay is dismissive of large numbers of gay men.
And to imply that mainstream acceptance of men wearing makeup would be a new thing would demonstrate a substantial ignorance of history (as recent as the 80s as well as further back in time).
I'd argue that men shaving for cosmetic reasons (like women shaving/waxing their genitals) has been encouraged and popularised by the porn industry actually
And that implying that camp or effeminate is synonymous to gay is dismissive of large numbers of gay men.
And to imply that mainstream acceptance of men wearing makeup would be a new thing would demonstrate a substantial ignorance of history (as recent as the 80s as well as further back in time).
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men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
First off: Homosexuality means being intimately interested solely in members of your own gender. It does not determine what you wear, the music you like, what you do in your spare time etc.
Speaking as a member of the LGBT community myself, not all of us live up to your generalisations/misunderstandings about us. I don't really care if I have a hairy chest, as long as I'm healthy and look presentable.
As for make-up, that's a whole different ball-game altogether. Loads of guys wear it nowadays. Excessive amounts of it being worn, then there is a chance that the person is transvestite. Transvestitism is a gender topic and nothing to do with orientation. Have you also considered that some men just wear it for fancy dress for a one-off? That does happen you know. Personally, I hate make up as it makes your skin oily and greasy, and over time it can and WILL age your skin. A lot of women will agree with me on that.
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the HUGE HUGE MAJORITY of us are not gay.
the HUGE HUGE MAJORITY of us are not gay.
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This post is so full of stereotypes and somebody who has clearly not enough knowledge on the gay male community that it is hilarious.
First off: Homosexuality means being intimately interested solely in members of your own gender. It does not determine what you wear, the music you like, what you do in your spare time etc.
Speaking as a member of the LGBT community myself, not all of us live up to your generalisations/misunderstandings about us. I don't really care if I have a hairy chest, as long as I'm healthy and look presentable.
As for make-up, that's a whole different ball-game altogether. Loads of guys wear it nowadays. Excessive amounts of it being worn, then there is a chance that the person is transvestite. Transvestitism is a gender topic and nothing to do with orientation. Have you also considered that some men just wear it for fancy dress for a one-off? That does happen you know. Personally, I hate make up as it makes your skin oily and greasy, and over time it can and WILL age your skin. A lot of women will agree with me on that.
This post is so full of stereotypes and somebody who has clearly not enough knowledge on the gay male community that it is hilarious.
First off: Homosexuality means being intimately interested solely in members of your own gender. It does not determine what you wear, the music you like, what you do in your spare time etc.
Speaking as a member of the LGBT community myself, not all of us live up to your generalisations/misunderstandings about us. I don't really care if I have a hairy chest, as long as I'm healthy and look presentable.
As for make-up, that's a whole different ball-game altogether. Loads of guys wear it nowadays. Excessive amounts of it being worn, then there is a chance that the person is transvestite. Transvestitism is a gender topic and nothing to do with orientation. Have you also considered that some men just wear it for fancy dress for a one-off? That does happen you know. Personally, I hate make up as it makes your skin oily and greasy, and over time it can and WILL age your skin. A lot of women will agree with me on that.
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Do you think straight men will also start copying gay men by sleeping with men too?
Because that's the only REALLY gay habit there is.
Do you think straight men will also start copying gay men by sleeping with men too?
Because that's the only REALLY gay habit there is.
There is nothing inherently "gay" about makeup. Nor is there necessarily anything "womanly" about a gay man.
Also, the amount of men who wax hairy areas is still nowhere near a majority. Women didn't remove their pubic hair until the last few decades, either - It's just more services and products being popularised to sell to us as time goes on.
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men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
men style seems to have follwed gay culture in the last few dacades ie gay men in the 1990s would shave their chests/pluck all hair, whereas the majority of straight population would not. fast forward 20 years and now pretty much most males shave/wax their chests and also now started plucking eyebrows. will the next step be that straight men start adopting in their culture wearing foundation, makeup , eyeliner, than many gay men do currently?
As we become less of a stereotypically gender divided society, what was previously the reserve of men or women may now be shared across the sexes. Are women who drink beer following lesbian culture? Or is it just another example of a blurring of gender stereotypes as gender equality increases?
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noone of that changes the fact that originally waxing chests and wearing cosmetic make-up was never a culturally accpeted straight male practice
noone of that changes the fact that originally waxing chests and wearing cosmetic make-up was never a culturally accpeted straight male practice
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