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The mysteries of infinity, the concept of the number zero (0) , the mind boggling idea of "nothing" , which cannot be described by zero! and the spotless,perfect design which can be seen in the universe,
Quran surah 45 verse 3 "Surely in the heavens and the earth there are signs for the true believers."
clearly people I do not have the proof for GOD , the title of the thread is designed to get people looking and thinking
Quran surah 45 verse 3 "Surely in the heavens and the earth there are signs for the true believers."
clearly people I do not have the proof for GOD , the title of the thread is designed to get people looking and thinking
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Because obviously that proves god exists. Further, it clearly demonstrates he's allah.
And because you're clearly not very smart - that was sarcasm.
And because you're clearly not very smart - that was sarcasm.
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(Original post by ssingh9)
That's not a proof of any kind.
That's not a proof of any kind.
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If all it took was one garbled sentence to prove a god existed, preschoolers would have discovered the Higgs boson 100,000 years ago.
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(Original post by Jam')
Because obviously that proves god exists. Further, it clearly demonstrates he's allah.
And because you're clearly not very smart - that was sarcasm.
Because obviously that proves god exists. Further, it clearly demonstrates he's allah.
And because you're clearly not very smart - that was sarcasm.
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(Original post by CJKay)
If all it took was one garbled sentence to prove a god existed, preschoolers would have discovered the Higgs boson 100,000 years ago.
If all it took was one garbled sentence to prove a god existed, preschoolers would have discovered the Higgs boson 100,000 years ago.
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(Original post by khasud)
its made to get you to think though, to ponder, we are intelligent beings and we need to think about these big questions, how can something come from nothing, what is forever.. etc... I take it you are maybe a sikh from your user name, if not I do apologise, surely you believe in this if you are to believe in the divine, GOD would not have placed us here without giving us abundant proofs of his being
its made to get you to think though, to ponder, we are intelligent beings and we need to think about these big questions, how can something come from nothing, what is forever.. etc... I take it you are maybe a sikh from your user name, if not I do apologise, surely you believe in this if you are to believe in the divine, GOD would not have placed us here without giving us abundant proofs of his being
However, simply saying "zero exists" and "the mysteries of infinity" doesn't actually prove the existence of an omnipotent, all-seeing deity. In addition, 'spotless, perfect design' could not be more wrong, and is I suspect based on the anthropic principle.
Maybe god (premise 1) would have placed us here with abundant proofs of his being (premise 2). I personally don't believe in either of those premises, but to each his own.
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(Original post by khasud)
ive edited my original post, the title is made to draw people in, I just want to start a real discussion here which involves philosophy and science , I cannot Make you belive GOD exists but these are things we all must ponder..
ive edited my original post, the title is made to draw people in, I just want to start a real discussion here which involves philosophy and science , I cannot Make you belive GOD exists but these are things we all must ponder..
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(Original post by ssingh9)
I agree with some elements of your argument. Yes, it has always been a major and important part of human philosophy and history to consider our origin and the nature of the universe.
However, simply saying "zero exists" and "the mysteries of infinity" doesn't actually prove the existence of an omnipotent, all-seeing deity. In addition, 'spotless, perfect design' could not be more wrong, and is I suspect based on the anthropic principle.
Maybe god (premise 1) would have placed us here with abundant proofs of his being (premise 2). I personally don't believe in either of those premises, but to each his own.
I agree with some elements of your argument. Yes, it has always been a major and important part of human philosophy and history to consider our origin and the nature of the universe.
However, simply saying "zero exists" and "the mysteries of infinity" doesn't actually prove the existence of an omnipotent, all-seeing deity. In addition, 'spotless, perfect design' could not be more wrong, and is I suspect based on the anthropic principle.
Maybe god (premise 1) would have placed us here with abundant proofs of his being (premise 2). I personally don't believe in either of those premises, but to each his own.
Btw this is exactly why I started this thread, I don't want a fight but just ideas to start flowing.
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(Original post by CJKay)
You cannot mix science and philosophy. Philosophy convinces stupid people to do stupid things by making them feel like they understand something when they don't.
You cannot mix science and philosophy. Philosophy convinces stupid people to do stupid things by making them feel like they understand something when they don't.
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(Original post by khasud)
I am not mixing , I want to talk about both. Besides one could argue they are exactly the same thing, especially when researching some of the more abstract concepts in physics, and especially the efforts to create artificial intelligence in computers, a science which needs a philosophical approach.. well that is what I think anyway.
I am not mixing , I want to talk about both. Besides one could argue they are exactly the same thing, especially when researching some of the more abstract concepts in physics, and especially the efforts to create artificial intelligence in computers, a science which needs a philosophical approach.. well that is what I think anyway.
Science is the study of the natural world based on observation. Philosophy is "the study of knowledge, reality and existence" which, if you ask me, is bull**** and frustratingly obtuse.
The study of artificial intelligence is completely amoral. What we build with what we learn from studying artifical intelligence, however, is not - but that is engineering, not science.
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#16
Common sense would make someone realise god exists. Those who fail to realise obviously have no common sense. Simple.
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#17
Omg stop trying to prove/ disprove religion "_" Cba to even give an educated response for the 50th time in 2 weeks.
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(Original post by CJKay)
You cannot mix science and philosophy. Philosophy convinces stupid people to do stupid things by making them feel like they understand something when they don't.
You cannot mix science and philosophy. Philosophy convinces stupid people to do stupid things by making them feel like they understand something when they don't.
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(Original post by Abstraction)
Woah woah woah there's no need for that! Philosophy is an immensely important and thought-provoking subject. I don't think philosophers walk around thinking they understand everything because they've sat down in an armchair to think a bit - in fact its understanding that there are a lot of things they don't get that drive them to investigate in the first place. And tbh many philosophers do have a pretty good scientific background (many philosophers of mind, for example, are also neuroscientists and/or cognitive scientists). Clearly, this OP is not a philosopher lol
Woah woah woah there's no need for that! Philosophy is an immensely important and thought-provoking subject. I don't think philosophers walk around thinking they understand everything because they've sat down in an armchair to think a bit - in fact its understanding that there are a lot of things they don't get that drive them to investigate in the first place. And tbh many philosophers do have a pretty good scientific background (many philosophers of mind, for example, are also neuroscientists and/or cognitive scientists). Clearly, this OP is not a philosopher lol
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#20
God will never be absolutely and irrefutably proved or disproved, this endeavour is a waste of time and brain energy. What even is God? Forget about it, if you really want to tackle big, worthwhile philosophical problems look at these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_pr..._consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_universals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_pr..._consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_universals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity
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