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Ed Miliband has outlined his policy on an EU referendum; Labour will only call an in/out referendum if it is proposed that further powers are transferred to Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
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(Original post by Burridge)
Ed Miliband has outlined his policy on an EU referendum; Labour will only call an in/out referendum if it is proposed that further powers are transferred to Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
Ed Miliband has outlined his policy on an EU referendum; Labour will only call an in/out referendum if it is proposed that further powers are transferred to Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
Strategically i think that Miliband has made the correct decision. While a large number of people do want a referendum (though they want on most things when polled), it's not generally a sufficiently high priority to affect the way they vote and by sticking with the current middle ground policy he avoids putting any more focus on the EU around the election time when the issue he wants to stick with is the cost of living.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
It's a continuation of the statute already in law for this parliament so the implications will be as they are now.
Strategically i think that Miliband has made the correct decision. While a large number of people do want a referendum (though they want on most things when polled), it's not generally a sufficiently high priority to affect the way they vote and by sticking with the current middle ground policy he avoids putting any more focus on the EU around the election time when the issue he wants to stick with is the cost of living.
It's a continuation of the statute already in law for this parliament so the implications will be as they are now.
Strategically i think that Miliband has made the correct decision. While a large number of people do want a referendum (though they want on most things when polled), it's not generally a sufficiently high priority to affect the way they vote and by sticking with the current middle ground policy he avoids putting any more focus on the EU around the election time when the issue he wants to stick with is the cost of living.
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(Original post by Burridge)
An Ashcroft Poll found that the EU was only the top-priority for 6% of voters. I understand that it's not the priority for the vast majority of people, put it is a high-priority (say, in the top 5 of issues) for a decent proportion of the electorate. I think it's certainly possible to offer a referendum without making it the focus of Labour's campaign - they could still use the cost of living crisis as their electoral centre-piece, but by effectively rejecting a referendum I think they're only giving the Tories another thing to capitalise on (which we're already seeing). I think it's quite risky.
An Ashcroft Poll found that the EU was only the top-priority for 6% of voters. I understand that it's not the priority for the vast majority of people, put it is a high-priority (say, in the top 5 of issues) for a decent proportion of the electorate. I think it's certainly possible to offer a referendum without making it the focus of Labour's campaign - they could still use the cost of living crisis as their electoral centre-piece, but by effectively rejecting a referendum I think they're only giving the Tories another thing to capitalise on (which we're already seeing). I think it's quite risky.
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(Original post by Burridge)
Ed Miliband has outlined his policy on an EU referendum; Labour will only call an in/out referendum if it is proposed that further powers are transferred to Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
Ed Miliband has outlined his policy on an EU referendum; Labour will only call an in/out referendum if it is proposed that further powers are transferred to Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420
Thoughts on this? What implications will this have?
I'm thoroughly disappointed to hear this. The EU is a high-priority for a significant proportion of the electorate; denying them a vote on the issue seems totally bizarre.
"completing the single market in energy, services and the digital economy, lengthening the transitional period during which restrictions can be curbed on immigration from new member states and making it easier to deport recent immigrants who have broken the law
"But these reforms could be achieved without a new treaty, he argued."
So the BBC's characterisation of Miliband's position is false. He will not offer a referendum if further powers are transferred to Brussels - in fact he supports transferring more powers to Brussels - he will only offer a referendum if there is a new treaty.
Since the latest treaty has a self-amendment mechanism, this may never happen again, as Miliband correctly points out, despite large transfer of powers in future "reforms".
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(Original post by Rakas21)
It's a continuation of the statute already in law for this parliament so the implications will be as they are now.
Strategically i think that Miliband has made the correct decision. While a large number of people do want a referendum (though they want on most things when polled), it's not generally a sufficiently high priority to affect the way they vote and by sticking with the current middle ground policy he avoids putting any more focus on the EU around the election time when the issue he wants to stick with is the cost of living.
It's a continuation of the statute already in law for this parliament so the implications will be as they are now.
Strategically i think that Miliband has made the correct decision. While a large number of people do want a referendum (though they want on most things when polled), it's not generally a sufficiently high priority to affect the way they vote and by sticking with the current middle ground policy he avoids putting any more focus on the EU around the election time when the issue he wants to stick with is the cost of living.
(Original post by Burridge)
An Ashcroft Poll found that the EU was only the top-priority for 6% of voters. I understand that it's not the priority for the vast majority of people, put it is a high-priority (say, in the top 5 of issues) for a decent proportion of the electorate. I think it's certainly possible to offer a referendum without making it the focus of Labour's campaign - they could still use the cost of living crisis as their electoral centre-piece, but by effectively rejecting a referendum I think they're only giving the Tories another thing to capitalise on (which we're already seeing). I think it's quite risky.
An Ashcroft Poll found that the EU was only the top-priority for 6% of voters. I understand that it's not the priority for the vast majority of people, put it is a high-priority (say, in the top 5 of issues) for a decent proportion of the electorate. I think it's certainly possible to offer a referendum without making it the focus of Labour's campaign - they could still use the cost of living crisis as their electoral centre-piece, but by effectively rejecting a referendum I think they're only giving the Tories another thing to capitalise on (which we're already seeing). I think it's quite risky.
Labour for instance seem to want to renationalise energy, water, etc. but this is disallowed by EU competition law. Labour doesn't have anything like the scope it thinks it does to offer cost of living policies because these things are decided by the EU. Note the first thing listed in his desire for "reforms": "completing the single market in energy, services and the digital economy". Completing a single market in energy means that the EU will regulate energy, not Ed Miliband.
Alternatively, since the public doesn't understand that Labour cannot make good on their promises, Labour could just trick them and then do nothing once in office. That's basically what the Conservatives have done with their immigration pledge. But that will rebound in 2020.
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