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Working in hospitals/bugs
I posted a thread yesterday but on a different issue, anyway Ive started voluntary work on hospital wards 2 weeks ago but while I was there someone told me about a vomiting/diareah (sp) bug that can get passed between staff members sometimes. I have a phobia of being sick and Im worried about catching something like this, im doing 10 hours aweek but does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks
Thanks
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Reply 1
Use the alcohol gel, wash your hands before you eat etc ... you'll be fine.
Reply 2
I know this is off-topic but how did you get the voluntary work?
Would you recommend it?
Good on you for volunteering!
Would you recommend it?
Good on you for volunteering!
Reply 3
Anonymous
I know this is off-topic but how did you get the voluntary work?
Would you recommend it?
Good on you for volunteering!
Would you recommend it?
Good on you for volunteering!
I rang up the hospital they have a volunteering service, had to have a security check and training day before I could start. Why, are you thinking of doing similar? Ive been told its good for experience etc.
Reply 4
-Emmz-
Use the alcohol gel, wash your hands before you eat etc ... you'll be fine.
My mum has come home with a vomiting illness quite a few times thats why im worried, shes a nurse but gets sick of me moaning about hypochondriac stuff lol so she won't talk about it in case I change my mind (which I won't), she just said 'you'l be fine get on with it'. Maybe she forgets to wash her hands or something though
Reply 5
Anonymous
I rang up the hospital they have a volunteering service, had to have a security check and training day before I could start. Why, are you thinking of doing similar? Ive been told its good for experience etc.
Cool. Yeah, I've been thinking about it for a while.
Thanks for the information.
ps. are you doing medicine or something similar at uni?
Reply 6
I was eating breakfast the other morning when I saw an article in the paper...it read that there were extremely poor hygiene in hospitals and "faeces on bed railings" that totally put me off, put down the article and my food. lol
Reply 7
Anonymous
My mum has come home with a vomiting illness quite a few times thats why im worried, shes a nurse but gets sick of me moaning about hypochondriac stuff lol so she won't talk about it in case I change my mind (which I won't), she just said 'you'l be fine get on with it'. Maybe she forgets to wash her hands or something though
Are you gonna be as involved with the patient as a nurse would? At the hospital I'm working at right now you can view a patient's lab results on the electronic prescribing thingy and it tells you if they're MRSA positive etc. I'd say always use alcohol gel inbetween in each patient (I know it's a pain and it dries your hands out) and if they person has an infection that might be contagious to someone who's not immunocomprised then wear gloves and an apron. Although the most infectious patients are usually in side rooms and have barrier nursing so you may not even be seeing to them.
Reply 8
erm, if you have a phobia of vomiting, then going to a big building full of highly infectious diseased people probably isn't a great idea.
Well done for doing the voluntary work though, it's a great contribution to society.
Well done for doing the voluntary work though, it's a great contribution to society.
Anonymous
I posted a thread yesterday but on a different issue, anyway Ive started voluntary work on hospital wards 2 weeks ago but while I was there someone told me about a vomiting/diareah (sp) bug that can get passed between staff members sometimes. I have a phobia of being sick and Im worried about catching something like this, im doing 10 hours aweek but does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks
Thanks
Sounds like Norwark or Rotavirus. (the same sorts of viruses that tend to strike cruise ships etc)
Make sure you wash your hands between patients etc and you should be fine.
Reply 11
Fluffy
Sounds like Norwark or Rotavirus. (the same sorts of viruses that tend to strike cruise ships etc)
Make sure you wash your hands between patients etc and you should be fine.
Make sure you wash your hands between patients etc and you should be fine.
Doesn't matter what its called Im just wondering how to avoid it
Yea I will, I doubt Id be making any physical contact just talking to them etc mainly, apart from colds are there any airbourne infections floating about or anythingReply 12
interesting article for you guys to read:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2283476,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2283476,00.html
Reply 13
I can't open it, can you copy and paste or something?
Reply 14
Sixty died at hospital after patients left in human filth
By Sam Lister, Health Correspondent and Jenny Percival
More than 60 people died at a single hospital from complications linked to the superbug Clostridium difficile as a result of serious failings of senior management, a highly critical report said today.
Two outbreaks at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, in Buckinghamshire, killed more than 33 people, while a culture of poor hygiene and hospital managers’ failure to act contributed to several dozen additional deaths since 2003, the health inspectorate said.
The report — which detailed a catalogue of serious hygiene offences including faeces on bed rails and patients’ clothes kept on the floor — was published as annual figures revealed that rates of C. difficile in patients over the age of 65 have risen across England by 17.2 per cent in the last year.
The second report, by the Health Protection Agency, showed that the number of cases of C. difficile rose in two-thirds of health trusts, despite government efforts to improve hospital hygiene.
The HPA statistics showed there were 51,690 cases in 2005 up from 44,107 in 2004. The cases relate to infections in patients aged 65 years and older. The HPA said the increase was likely to be down to both an increased number of cases and improved reporting.
Patients and relatives of those that died at Stoke Mandeville are expected to pursue legal action after the Healthcare Commission’s damning findings on the management of Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust.
Describing the situation at Stoke Mandeville as a result of repeated failures by the trust’s board, Anna Walker, chief executive of the Healthcare Commission, said that government targets, the control of finances and the reconfiguration of services had been put above basic patient care.
"The leadership of the trust compromised the safety of patients by failing to make the right decisions," she said, adding that they had failed to learn lessons from the first outbreak, which killed 16 people. "They rejected the proper advice of their own experts."
The Healthcare Commission, an NHS watchdog, said that more than 300 patients contracted the C. difficile stomach bug at the hospital in the outbreaks between October 2003 and June 2005. The bug causes severe diarrhoea and can be fatal, particularly for elderly patients.
The commission blamed the spread of the bug on the failure to isolate infected patients. Hospital managers reduced the number of single rooms, which could have been used to keep those infected away from other patients.
A shortage of nurses contributed to an environment where staff were too rushed to answer call bells or change soiled sheets and failed to take basic precautions such as washing their hands, wearing aprons and gloves or properly cleaning mattresses and equipment.
Nurses at the hospital complained to the trust's chief executive and to the Royal College of Nursing that they were worried about the standard of care.
Some limited action but not the most important - immediate isolation - was taken after the first outbreak but senior managers failed to bring the second outbreak in 2005 under control because they prioritised other objectives, like the Government's targets on accident and emergency waiting times.
The commission also revealed that an inspection at the hospital between December 2005 and January this year showed there were still problems including dirty wards and toilets and mould and cobwebs in the showers.
Andy Burnham, the Health Minister, said that its medical advisers would study the report’s recommendations. "What happened at Stoke Mandeville is inexcusable and must not be allowed to happen again," he said.
Alan Bedford, Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust acting Chief Executive, who replaced the former head Ruth Harrison, said the hospital had since tightened its procedures. "We are determined to learn everything we can from the report," he said. "The death of any patient from a hospital-acquired infection is a cause of deep concern and regret."
Three senior managers at the trust have left or have announced their plans to leave this month and the hospital announced today that a new post with sole responsibility for infections control will be created.
The latest figures from the Health Protection Agency also revealed that the number of reported cases of MRSA blood poisoning had dipped by 2.5 per cent to 3,517 between October 2005 and March 2006 compared with the previous six months.
By Sam Lister, Health Correspondent and Jenny Percival
More than 60 people died at a single hospital from complications linked to the superbug Clostridium difficile as a result of serious failings of senior management, a highly critical report said today.
Two outbreaks at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, in Buckinghamshire, killed more than 33 people, while a culture of poor hygiene and hospital managers’ failure to act contributed to several dozen additional deaths since 2003, the health inspectorate said.
The report — which detailed a catalogue of serious hygiene offences including faeces on bed rails and patients’ clothes kept on the floor — was published as annual figures revealed that rates of C. difficile in patients over the age of 65 have risen across England by 17.2 per cent in the last year.
The second report, by the Health Protection Agency, showed that the number of cases of C. difficile rose in two-thirds of health trusts, despite government efforts to improve hospital hygiene.
The HPA statistics showed there were 51,690 cases in 2005 up from 44,107 in 2004. The cases relate to infections in patients aged 65 years and older. The HPA said the increase was likely to be down to both an increased number of cases and improved reporting.
Patients and relatives of those that died at Stoke Mandeville are expected to pursue legal action after the Healthcare Commission’s damning findings on the management of Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust.
Describing the situation at Stoke Mandeville as a result of repeated failures by the trust’s board, Anna Walker, chief executive of the Healthcare Commission, said that government targets, the control of finances and the reconfiguration of services had been put above basic patient care.
"The leadership of the trust compromised the safety of patients by failing to make the right decisions," she said, adding that they had failed to learn lessons from the first outbreak, which killed 16 people. "They rejected the proper advice of their own experts."
The Healthcare Commission, an NHS watchdog, said that more than 300 patients contracted the C. difficile stomach bug at the hospital in the outbreaks between October 2003 and June 2005. The bug causes severe diarrhoea and can be fatal, particularly for elderly patients.
The commission blamed the spread of the bug on the failure to isolate infected patients. Hospital managers reduced the number of single rooms, which could have been used to keep those infected away from other patients.
A shortage of nurses contributed to an environment where staff were too rushed to answer call bells or change soiled sheets and failed to take basic precautions such as washing their hands, wearing aprons and gloves or properly cleaning mattresses and equipment.
Nurses at the hospital complained to the trust's chief executive and to the Royal College of Nursing that they were worried about the standard of care.
Some limited action but not the most important - immediate isolation - was taken after the first outbreak but senior managers failed to bring the second outbreak in 2005 under control because they prioritised other objectives, like the Government's targets on accident and emergency waiting times.
The commission also revealed that an inspection at the hospital between December 2005 and January this year showed there were still problems including dirty wards and toilets and mould and cobwebs in the showers.
Andy Burnham, the Health Minister, said that its medical advisers would study the report’s recommendations. "What happened at Stoke Mandeville is inexcusable and must not be allowed to happen again," he said.
Alan Bedford, Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust acting Chief Executive, who replaced the former head Ruth Harrison, said the hospital had since tightened its procedures. "We are determined to learn everything we can from the report," he said. "The death of any patient from a hospital-acquired infection is a cause of deep concern and regret."
Three senior managers at the trust have left or have announced their plans to leave this month and the hospital announced today that a new post with sole responsibility for infections control will be created.
The latest figures from the Health Protection Agency also revealed that the number of reported cases of MRSA blood poisoning had dipped by 2.5 per cent to 3,517 between October 2005 and March 2006 compared with the previous six months.
Okay, question... if you have a phobia of being ill, why volunteer in hospital?
2nd of all, yes bugs like that go around hospitals; during my time as a phlebotomist I (along with most other staff) caught some kind of bug whilst working there, **** happens... if you excuse the pun.
But yeah, measures can be taken to reduce the risk, the alcohol gel mentioned before, "barriering up" for infectious patients and washing hands regularly are ways to reduce the risk... but the risk is always there I'm afraid.
Out of curiousity... are you volunteering in hospital as you want to become a doctor or nurse? Because it may be a good experience to actually be around these bugs and help cure your phobia... in a weird way.
All comes to all, bugs are in hospital, you may get sick, all you can do is grit your teeth and get over it
2nd of all, yes bugs like that go around hospitals; during my time as a phlebotomist I (along with most other staff) caught some kind of bug whilst working there, **** happens... if you excuse the pun.
But yeah, measures can be taken to reduce the risk, the alcohol gel mentioned before, "barriering up" for infectious patients and washing hands regularly are ways to reduce the risk... but the risk is always there I'm afraid.
Out of curiousity... are you volunteering in hospital as you want to become a doctor or nurse? Because it may be a good experience to actually be around these bugs and help cure your phobia... in a weird way.
All comes to all, bugs are in hospital, you may get sick, all you can do is grit your teeth and get over it
Reply 16
I work in a hospital too, volunteering- coffee shop... slave labour. 10 hours is a hell of a long time for voluntary work... is this because you want to pursue some medical career? I assume so, in the wards. You could always work in the coffee shop and drink with the doctors (they seem to be in there for hours). I haven't caught any bugs of yet.
To the person above- good thinking!
To the person above- good thinking!
Solid_L
Okay, question... if you have a phobia of being ill, why volunteer in hospital?
Ditto!!
Well done on volunteering though and good luck, I don't know much about the subject but I'd just say wash your hands thoroughly asap after seeing a patient and don't touch your mouth before they're washed - things like that.
Reply 18
Solid_L
Okay, question... if you have a phobia of being ill, why volunteer in hospital?
2nd of all, yes bugs like that go around hospitals; during my time as a phlebotomist I (along with most other staff) caught some kind of bug whilst working there, **** happens... if you excuse the pun.
But yeah, measures can be taken to reduce the risk, the alcohol gel mentioned before, "barriering up" for infectious patients and washing hands regularly are ways to reduce the risk... but the risk is always there I'm afraid.
Out of curiousity... are you volunteering in hospital as you want to become a doctor or nurse? Because it may be a good experience to actually be around these bugs and help cure your phobia... in a weird way.
All comes to all, bugs are in hospital, you may get sick, all you can do is grit your teeth and get over it
2nd of all, yes bugs like that go around hospitals; during my time as a phlebotomist I (along with most other staff) caught some kind of bug whilst working there, **** happens... if you excuse the pun.
But yeah, measures can be taken to reduce the risk, the alcohol gel mentioned before, "barriering up" for infectious patients and washing hands regularly are ways to reduce the risk... but the risk is always there I'm afraid.
Out of curiousity... are you volunteering in hospital as you want to become a doctor or nurse? Because it may be a good experience to actually be around these bugs and help cure your phobia... in a weird way.
All comes to all, bugs are in hospital, you may get sick, all you can do is grit your teeth and get over it
Im not sure what I want to be, its just for experience as im thinking of doing something in healthcare, otherwise it might be useful anyway to put on any applicaton form. Its the rehab centre so not sure if this means there are less bugs? lol. Is it possible to like just come into contact with something mildly, but not show any symptoms and then be immune to it? Its not like im going to change my mind as I want to work there but Im just really worried about catching something.
Reply 19
Solid_L
Okay, question... if you have a phobia of being ill, why volunteer in hospital?
well you shouldn't really let a phobia control your life..should you? (but it is doing
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