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Hello to everyone

I have seen all the different parties present but there seems to lack a left wing party with a more nationalist orientation.

This party is needed as all mainstream parties play along with corporations with the result that the population is deprived of wealth in favor of the elite. There is a worrying trend of privatization of public services which only benefit a few private individuals. A nationalist government would carry out nationalizations of banks and other major corporations to ensure they are in service of the PEOPLE. The party would promote national identity and work to turn people away from materialism and egoism ( promoted by the capitalist society ) and realize a spiritual rebirth through Christian values.


Background

The ideologies of the party would be those originated from the german priest Friedrich Naumann. The general principles of his movement were as follows :

The National-Social Association was a political party in the German Empire, founded in 1896 by Friedrich Naumann. It sought to synthesize [modern] liberalism, nationalism and socialism with Protestant Christian values.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...al_Association


Today

Social stance:
social conservative
Economic stance: socialist, progressive

The idea of the National Workers Party can be viewed as a struggle to maintain national identity values while protecting minority rights. Some ideologies can be seen as similar as those of the Conservatives/UKIP ( immigration, patriotism, national independence ) while others are more in line with the Greens/Socialist Party ( social services, progressive taxation, environmentalism ).
From a social point of view the party would promote a traditional view in line with social conservatism.

Modern Issues

Economy: The planning of the economy would be based on socialist principles with progressive taxation. There should be regulations to avoid corporations avoiding taxes and transferring money off-shore. The manufacturing industry should be revived to reduce the nation's dependence from international trading.

Welfare: Help should be transferred from people that abuse the system to people that actually need help. More controls should be enforced to verify that money really goes to those in need.

Immigration: Only people with relevant skills should be allowed to enter the nation. In addition there should be at least a year before immigrants can start claiming benefits.

Environment and Animal Rights: On this topic the polices would be like those of the Socialist Party and Green Party. I personally am in favor of heavy investment in renewable energy and decrease of our CO2 emissions. Another aspect of concern is animal rights. I would abolish animal testing and increase penalties to people that perpetrate abuse on animals. In addition all methods of slaughter that don't comply to regulation but are permitted for religious purposes will be immediately outlawed.

Social Services: State Education and health care are of fundamental importance and should be protected from any form of privatization. We must remove the elite status of private schools that offer higher education only to people that can afford the premium price. The same level of education should be potentially reached in any school.

Social Rights: Social rights would be promoted and any form of discrimination rejected. Freedom of speech, association, press would be protected.

Justice: The police and prison system should get more funds to reduce crime. I would emphasize the need to rehabilitate people in prison ( by teaching valuable skills ) to try and reduce the chance they recommit a crime once they are released.

Anyone interested in this movement should leave a message below.
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(Original post by demx9)
Hello to everyone .

I have seen all the different parties present but there seems to lack a left wing party with a more nationalist orientation. Obviously I seek no connection with the German Nazi party as I am myself anti-racist and not xenophobic.
In addition I am not here to promote a new party but instead push forward some ideas and ideologies that may or not be of interest to this community.

Background

We can view as the founder of this movement the german priest Friedrich Naumann. The general principles of his movement were as follows :
The National-Social Association was a political party in the German Empire, founded in 1896 by Friedrich Naumann. It sought to synthesise [modern] liberalism, nationalism and non-Marxist socialism with Protestant Christian values, in order to cross the ideological front lines and draw workers away from Marxist class struggle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...al_Association

The idea of this movement was to protect the middle class against the industrial capitalists and the social revolutionaries. It provided a moderate view of socialism mixed with christian values. The general underlying ideologies are therefore of social justice, progressive economic ideas and social conservatism.

Today

The idea of National Socialism today can be viewed as a struggle to maintain national identity values while protecting minority rights. Many policies can be seen as similar as those of the UKIP ( immigration, patriotism, national independence ) but others are much more in line with the Socialist Party ( social services, progressive taxation, environmentalism ).

From a social point of view N.S. promotes a traditional view in line with Social conservatism but nevertheless has moderate, liberal views on issues such as gay marriage, abortion and drug consumption ( I am personally in favor of the legalization of Cannabis ).

Issues

I will now go through some of the issues of modern society.

Economy: N.S. promote a moderate socialist approach to planning the economy. Taxes are progressive and are inclined to take more from the wealthy. Nevertheless businesses are not discouraged and the government should subsidies small and medium companies that are the foundation of our economy. There should be more regulations to avoid corporations avoiding taxes and transferring money off-shore.

Welfare: On this issue I personally think that help should be transferred from people that abuse the system to people that actually need help. More controls should be enforced to verify that money really goes to those in need.

Immigration: The views on this topic are similar to those of the UKIP. Only people with relevant skills should be allowed to enter the nation. In addition there should be at least a year before immigrants can start claiming benefits.

Environment and Animal Rights: On this topic the polices would be like those of the Socialist Party and Green Party. I personally am in favor of heavy investment in renewable energy and decrease of our CO2 emissions. Another aspect of concern is animal rights. I would abolish animal testing and increase penalties to people that perpetrate abuse on animals. In addition all methods of slaughter that don't comply to regulation but are permitted for religious purposes will be immediately outlawed ( halal and kosher ).

Social Services: State Education and health care are of fundamental importance and should be protected from any form of privatization. I would personally remove the elite status of private schools that offer higher education only to people that can afford the premium price. The same level of education should be potentially reached in any school.

Social Rights: N.S. promotes social rights and is against any form of discrimination. Freedom of speech, association, press would be protected.

Justice: The police and prison system should get more funds to reduce crime. I would emphasize the need to rehabilitate people in prison ( by teaching valuable skills ) to try and reduce the chance they recommit a crime once they are released.

This covers all the main subjects of interest. I hope you enjoyed reading and look forward to discussing the above mentioned ideas.
Howdeh there, I noticed you put in an application to join the Socialist Party but then created this thread later. Are you still interested or do you want me to cancel it?

As for the party, I don't think you'll have much luck as the left on here doesn't hold much if any nationalist spirit. I have no desire to join a left wing UKIP
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Howdeh there, I noticed you put in an application to join the Socialist Party but then created this thread later. Are you still interested or do you want me to cancel it?

As for the party, I don't think you'll have much luck as the left on here doesn't hold much if any nationalist spirit. I have no desire to join a left wing UKIP
Haha, yes I still want to join the socialist party. The nationalism is just a side view
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Find a decent name (one which avoids the obvious and problematic historical links) and set it up. It's not my sort of thing but the more parties the better.
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I was going to say about the unfortunate name link!
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Find a decent name (one which avoids the obvious and problematic historical links) and set it up. It's not my sort of thing but the more parties the better.
what about Workers Party of Britain or National Workers Party
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Interesting idea, bizarre sounding to me. Could you clarify some things for me?

First of all, what, in your opinion, separates you from our LW parties? (Labour/Greens/Socialists) is it the nationalism/Christian theme?

You are branding yourself as the proper left wing party, yet you describe yourself as "protecting the middle class against revolution" - which doesn't sound particularly extreme left wing. Also strong religious ties are often wind up on the right side, like the Norwegian Christian party.

All in all, very interesting indeed
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Interesting idea, bizarre sounding to me. Could you clarify some things for me?

First of all, what, in your opinion, separates you from our LW parties? (Labour/Greens/Socialists) is it the nationalism/Christian theme?

You are branding yourself as the proper left wing party, yet you describe yourself as "protecting the middle class against revolution" - which doesn't sound particularly extreme left wing. Also strong religious ties are often wind up on the right side, like the Norwegian Christian party.

All in all, very interesting indeed
Hi there,
the main difference is indeed a refusal of extremism viewed as a class war between lower classes and higher classes; the emphasize is the good of the Nation as a whole. The party would push for a strong, authoritarian central government with increased power for prime minister and less involvement of the parliament which would allow radical reforms like extensive nationalizations and other anti-capitalist policies not welcomed by powerful corporations.
The other part, religious ties, is linked to the social conservative views that are not present in other left wing parties. The Christian culture is only part of finding a national identity and I personally think that through a spiritual rebirth it is possible to reverse the horrible consequences of the capitalist system.
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