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Ronaldinho or Messi in their primes?
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Original post by Jordooooom
What about Maradona?
Maradona would probably fit just below Ronaldinho/Zidane just because he wasn't as good as them
In any team - Ronaldo. He's complete. In a Barca/Bayern set-up - Messi.
Original post by MK27
Pele>Ronaldinho=Zidane>Messi>Ronaldo
Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays
Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched
Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays
Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched
Pele is the greatest but garincha was better
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by SHOO
What about Maradona? He didn't have much of an amazing team when he won the World Cup
If he hadn't cheated he wouldn't have won it
Original post by SHOO
Because Ronaldinho is better or because Messi is better? 
Because Messi is better. Ronaldinho is a second tier great. He didn't last long enough at the top to be compared with the likes of Messi.
Original post by 419
Pele is the greatest but garincha is better
Might be better technically with the ball but he doesn't bring the numbers pele brings.
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career
Original post by MK27
Pele>Ronaldinho=Zidane>Messi>Ronaldo
Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays
Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched
Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays
Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched
The world cup argument makes no sense. Pele played in a Brazil team full of brilliant players, while Ronaldo plays in a team with Nuno Gomes and Raul Meireles.
If we're doing the trophy argument, Messi has 3 champions leagues, Pele has 0
Ronaldinho could do things on the pitch that no player could ever do. Messi benefits from having an amazing side, Ronaldinho had a very good team but the Barca team Messi has been a star in recent years in markedly better than the team Ronaldinho carried for a few seasons he was at his peak. Ronaldinho can change the entire game throw producing a killer unorthodox pass, dribble past a player or two, deliver a great free kick but he was at times hit or miss whereas Messi is far more consistent, a better out and out dribble he isn't very fancy but his explosiveness is something to behold.
The only player I would probably say in my lifetime that I saw, that equally amazed me the way Ronaldinho did was a PRIME Ronaldo back at Barca/Inter.
The only player I would probably say in my lifetime that I saw, that equally amazed me the way Ronaldinho did was a PRIME Ronaldo back at Barca/Inter.
Original post by MK27
Might be better technically with the ball but he doesn't bring the numbers pele brings.
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career
Half of those were in friendlies, the rest were in the Brazilian League. Messi gets a goal a game in a top level league
Original post by Mickey O'Neil
Out of those two? Messi.
Out of the four mentioned by other posters? Zidane.
1. Zidane
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Messi
4. Ronaldinho
Zidane was just magic.
Out of the four mentioned by other posters? Zidane.
1. Zidane
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Messi
4. Ronaldinho
Zidane was just magic.
Original post by Wilfred Little
Football hipsters out in force. Messi is the greatest of all time. End of.
Original post by The Assassin
How is Zidane better than Messi?
1. Zidane
2.Ronaldinho
3.Ronaldo
4.Messi
(Pele is the king obvs though)
Original post by manchesterunited15
The world cup argument makes no sense. Pele played in a Brazil team full of brilliant players, while Ronaldo plays in a team with Nuno Gomes and Raul Meireles.
If we're doing the trophy argument, Messi has 3 champions leagues, Pele has 0
If we're doing the trophy argument, Messi has 3 champions leagues, Pele has 0
Pele never played in europe therefore no champions league but he did win 2 copa libertadores so total important trophy haul = 3+2 compared to messi of 0+3
In the case of Ronaldo, I do feel sorry for him to be lumbered with the deadweight he has to carry at international level
Original post by manchesterunited15
Half of those were in friendlies, the rest were in the Brazilian League. Messi gets a goal a game in a top level league
Come on man
77 goals in 92 internationals can't really be blamed on a poor league. This is against the best players in that country and in a tougher era.
While messi has 37 in 83 even with the ref on his side.
Original post by MK27
Pele never played in europe therefore no champions league but he did win 2 copa libertadores so total important trophy haul = 3+2 compared to messi of 0+3
In the case of Ronaldo, I do feel sorry for him to be lumbered with the deadweight he has to carry at international level
In the case of Ronaldo, I do feel sorry for him to be lumbered with the deadweight he has to carry at international level
Really :O did pele never play in Europe? Crazy :O
Original post by SHOO
Really :O did pele never play in Europe? Crazy :O
He Spent most of his career in Santos then went to Cosmos in the US of A
Original post by stuffsgrooveyman
1. Zidane
2.Ronaldinho
3.Ronaldo
4.Messi
(Pele is the king obvs though)
2.Ronaldinho
3.Ronaldo
4.Messi
(Pele is the king obvs though)
That's your opinion. I have mine. Ronaldinho is vastly overrated imo.
Original post by MK27
Might be better technically with the ball but he doesn't bring the numbers pele brings.
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career
Garincha's week.
Play football in the park with his boys whilst skipping training (sometime hustling for money using his football skills). Go on a bender at night waking up totally wrecked the next morning. Repeat till the weekend. Go to match on weekend and beast it. And then go back to getting pissed.
The guy didn't take football seriously yet he was beasting.
Original post by MK27
Maradona would probably fit just below Ronaldinho/Zidane just because he wasn't as good as them
And how exactly wasn't he as good as them? Did they inspire very average teams to greatness?
Really don't know why ronaldinho is being considered when he was only great for a couple of years. If he was more consistent then maybe he could have been considered the greatest ever
Original post by 419
Garincha's week.
Play football in the park with his boys whilst skipping training (sometime hustling for money using his football skills). Go on a bender at night waking up totally wrecked the next morning. Repeat till the weekend. Go to match on weekend and beast it. And then go back to getting pissed.
The guy didn't take football seriously yet he was beasting.
Play football in the park with his boys whilst skipping training (sometime hustling for money using his football skills). Go on a bender at night waking up totally wrecked the next morning. Repeat till the weekend. Go to match on weekend and beast it. And then go back to getting pissed.
The guy didn't take football seriously yet he was beasting.
Same with Ronaldinho and George Best(Who was AMAZING). Truth is they're all just a bunch of drunks
Original post by Jordooooom
And how exactly wasn't he as good as them? Did they inspire very average teams to greatness?
Really don't know why ronaldinho is being considered when he was only great for a couple of years. If he was more consistent then maybe he could have been considered the greatest ever
Really don't know why ronaldinho is being considered when he was only great for a couple of years. If he was more consistent then maybe he could have been considered the greatest ever
Just my opinion brah
Original post by MK27
He Spent most of his career in Santos then went to Cosmos in the US of A
wow lol, I didn't know that
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