Ronaldinho or Messi in their primes?

What about Maradona?

Pele>Ronaldinho=Zidane>Messi>Ronaldo

Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays

Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched

What about Maradona? He didn't have much of an amazing team when he won the World Cup

Because Ronaldinho is better or because Messi is better?

Pele is the greatest but garincha is better

Pele>Ronaldinho=Zidane>Messi>Ronaldo

Pele = 3 world cups
Ronaldinho = 1 world cup
Zidane = 1 world cup + epic headbutt
all in a tougher era without all this diving nonsense nowadays

Messi+Ronaldo = 0 world cups even with the bias of the referees towards attacking players these days i.e calling a foul if anyone gets touched

Might be better technically with the ball but he doesn't bring the numbers pele brings.
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career

Out of those two? Messi.

Out of the four mentioned by other posters? Zidane.

1. Zidane
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Messi
4. Ronaldinho

Zidane was just magic.

Football hipsters out in force. Messi is the greatest of all time. End of.

How is Zidane better than Messi?

The world cup argument makes no sense. Pele played in a Brazil team full of brilliant players, while Ronaldo plays in a team with Nuno Gomes and Raul Meireles.

If we're doing the trophy argument, Messi has 3 champions leagues, Pele has 0

Half of those were in friendlies, the rest were in the Brazilian League. Messi gets a goal a game in a top level league

Pele never played in europe therefore no champions league but he did win 2 copa libertadores so total important trophy haul = 3+2 compared to messi of 0+3

In the case of Ronaldo, I do feel sorry for him to be lumbered with the deadweight he has to carry at international level

Really :O did pele never play in Europe? Crazy :O

1. Zidane
2.Ronaldinho
3.Ronaldo
4.Messi

(Pele is the king obvs though)

Might be better technically with the ball but he doesn't bring the numbers pele brings.
1366 apperances 1282 goals
For his ENTIRE career

Maradona would probably fit just below Ronaldinho/Zidane just because he wasn't as good as them

Garincha's week.

Play football in the park with his boys whilst skipping training (sometime hustling for money using his football skills). Go on a bender at night waking up totally wrecked the next morning. Repeat till the weekend. Go to match on weekend and beast it. And then go back to getting pissed.

The guy didn't take football seriously yet he was beasting.

And how exactly wasn't he as good as them? Did they inspire very average teams to greatness?

Really don't know why ronaldinho is being considered when he was only great for a couple of years. If he was more consistent then maybe he could have been considered the greatest ever

He Spent most of his career in Santos then went to Cosmos in the US of A