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Jealousy- I can't stop it!

I'm so sorry for the length. I've highlighted key bits to make it more readable.

I was brought up Catholic and while I've planned for a career, I always believed that marriage and family were the most important things in life. Anyway, I assumed from a young age (10 or so) that I would marry young, maybe this was because my school was so indoctrinating, but it felt right.

I'm 21 and I've realised this will possibly never happen, and it makes me sad. I've never had a relationship, but what little I have had I've felt I've probably forced to get to that point by trying to maintain it beyond the male's interest. There are NO men in Cathsoc who are suitable, as in they are either taken or ERASMUS students, not that I'm as clinical about dating as that sounds!

So I feel that marriage is pushed to be this ideal, but it is very likely not to happen to me, but I still feel I want it. The worst part is, for the right reasons- ie the sacrament etc etc. I want the desire to be removed because it is seriously painful to think that God thinks I'm meant to be alone, when I've been alone all my life and hate it. I'm now focussing on my future career but I feel this is more selfish than the marriage thing because it's just about me, but if I didn't do this I would probably lose my faith completely.

The jealousy thing comes about because a sizable minority of people at my school were religious, and a lot of my aquaintances that I go to the same conferences etc/ did the same volunteering with at school are married or just about to marry. I'm not normally jealous but I don't understand why they get to get married and I don't, when I was as good a Christian as them, but I hate this attitude! I understand all the 'in God's time' etc arguments but I just can't accept it, even though I want to. :frown:


Sorry for the length of this. The last factor was that I met a guy who was 'Catholic' but I learnt that he is a serial womaniser and not a nice person (he had tried to take advantage of me at a cathsoc party when I was a bit tipsy- not planned, I just couldn't take drink well- and tried to do stuff to me, I got rid of him but he then rang the chaplain and said that I was 'really drunk'- lie to get himself out of trouble and so I couldn't tell anyone.) The fact that he presented himself as Christian makes it worse- I don't know if I can even trust Christian boys now as well- could be a sign I don't derserve marriage?
????? Would you like to speak to a Priest/Psychologist?
Reply 2
would God give you a sign like that saying marriage wasn't for you?

until you have a strong relationship with God and are comfortable with being who you are on your own, how do you expect to be a part of a stable relationship? you're aim shouldn't be to marry but to be right with God and allow God's plan to take it's course in your life. maybe you will marry, maybe you won't but either way God knows what's right for you because He loves you.
Reply 3
????? Would you like to speak to a Priest/Psychologist?


Would you like to expalin what exactly you mean?

until you have a strong relationship with God


I do. That's the problem. I JUST DON'T WANT to want to marry.
Jaffa Gardens
I'm so sorry for the length. I've highlighted key bits to make it more readable.

I was brought up Catholic and while I've planned for a career, I always believed that marriage and family were the most important things in life. Anyway, I assumed from a young age (10 or so) that I would marry young, maybe this was because my school was so indoctrinating, but it felt right.

I'm 21 and I've realised this will possibly never happen, and it makes me sad. I've never had a relationship, but what little I have had I've felt I've probably forced to get to that point by trying to maintain it beyond the male's interest. There are NO men in Cathsoc who are suitable, as in they are either taken or ERASMUS students, not that I'm as clinical about dating as that sounds!

So I feel that marriage is pushed to be this ideal, but it is very likely not to happen to me, but I still feel I want it. The worst part is, for the right reasons- ie the sacrament etc etc. I want the desire to be removed because it is seriously painful to think that God thinks I'm meant to be alone, when I've been alone all my life and hate it. I'm now focussing on my future career but I feel this is more selfish than the marriage thing because it's just about me, but if I didn't do this I would probably lose my faith completely.

The jealousy thing comes about because a sizable minority of people at my school were religious, and a lot of my aquaintances that I go to the same conferences etc/ did the same volunteering with at school are married or just about to marry. I'm not normally jealous but I don't understand why they get to get married and I don't, when I was as good a Christian as them, but I hate this attitude! I understand all the 'in God's time' etc arguments but I just can't accept it, even though I want to. :frown:


Sorry for the length of this. The last factor was that I met a guy who was 'Catholic' but I learnt that he is a serial womaniser and not a nice person (he had tried to take advantage of me at a cathsoc party when I was a bit tipsy- not planned, I just couldn't take drink well- and tried to do stuff to me, I got rid of him but he then rang the chaplain and said that I was 'really drunk'- lie to get himself out of trouble and so I couldn't tell anyone.) The fact that he presented himself as Christian makes it worse- I don't know if I can even trust Christian boys now as well- could be a sign I don't derserve marriage?
Deserve? Well, in one sense no, because humanity doesn't deserve ANY of God's gifts, seeing as we're all sinners. But that's not to say you should take your experience as a sign that marriage isn't for you.

Also, I don't wish to be rude, but this is the Debate and Discussion section. Might I direct your attention to either Health&Relationships or the Christian Society?
Reply 5
Jaffa Gardens
I'm so sorry for the length. I've highlighted key bits to make it more readable.

I was brought up Catholic and while I've planned for a career, I always believed that marriage and family were the most important things in life. Anyway, I assumed from a young age (10 or so) that I would marry young, maybe this was because my school was so indoctrinating, but it felt right.

I'm 21 and I've realised this will possibly never happen, and it makes me sad. I've never had a relationship, but what little I have had I've felt I've probably forced to get to that point by trying to maintain it beyond the male's interest. There are NO men in Cathsoc who are suitable, as in they are either taken or ERASMUS students, not that I'm as clinical about dating as that sounds!

So I feel that marriage is pushed to be this ideal, but it is very likely not to happen to me, but I still feel I want it. The worst part is, for the right reasons- ie the sacrament etc etc. I want the desire to be removed because it is seriously painful to think that God thinks I'm meant to be alone, when I've been alone all my life and hate it. I'm now focussing on my future career but I feel this is more selfish than the marriage thing because it's just about me, but if I didn't do this I would probably lose my faith completely.

The jealousy thing comes about because a sizable minority of people at my school were religious, and a lot of my aquaintances that I go to the same conferences etc/ did the same volunteering with at school are married or just about to marry. I'm not normally jealous but I don't understand why they get to get married and I don't, when I was as good a Christian as them, but I hate this attitude! I understand all the 'in God's time' etc arguments but I just can't accept it, even though I want to. :frown:


Sorry for the length of this. The last factor was that I met a guy who was 'Catholic' but I learnt that he is a serial womaniser and not a nice person (he had tried to take advantage of me at a cathsoc party when I was a bit tipsy- not planned, I just couldn't take drink well- and tried to do stuff to me, I got rid of him but he then rang the chaplain and said that I was 'really drunk'- lie to get himself out of trouble and so I couldn't tell anyone.) The fact that he presented himself as Christian makes it worse- I don't know if I can even trust Christian boys now as well- could be a sign I don't derserve marriage?


You know marriage is one of the fundamentals of Human Society, there is no way that you are not suitable for it. All you have to do is to wait for your time to come and just focus on your studies. Its just a matter of time. Every creation of God is special in its own unique way. Just dont get depressed, you are only 21 and the majority of married women I know ,almost all of them, were married at the age of 25 or later. The only thing you have to worry about right now is your future career. Believe in God and leave everything to his infinite wisdom.
Chixidol
You know marriage is one of the fundamentals of Human Society, there is no way that you are not suitable for it. All you have to do is to wait for your time to come and just focus on your studies. Its just a matter of time. Every creation of God is special in its own unique way. Just dont get depressed, you are only 21 and the majority of married women I know ,almost all of them, were married at the age of 25 or later. The only thing you have to worry about right now is your future career. Believe in God and leave everything to his infinite wisdom.


This is terrible advice. By all means hold your own religious beliefs, but don't try and use them to tell people their place in society - how can you possibly know whether or not someone is suitable for marriage when all you have to go on is one post on an internet forum? You may find it distressing, but not everyone is going to conform to your happy view of married christian life where God will sort out everything in the end.

Besides, if marriage is so important and everyone should be married, why don't monks and nuns marry - they're holy, right?
Reply 7
lol! Good ol' religion. You should be careful, at the moment you're effectively being pressurised to marry (from the way you were brought up.) I'm quite skeptical about the whole Christian view on this. I suspect the reason a lot of Christians get married young if because they think they have to (or they are horny...) Of course this is a pretty bad policy as you'll find yourself either divorced or trapped in an unfulfilling relationship in due time. Personally I'd let yourself dictate the way you live, not your religion.
Reply 8
Maybe just try to focus on your fundamental needs and interests and satisfying them, rather than the broader view taking in all different influences like your religion for example, and what other people are doing. Unfortunately I can only offer advice from an entirely non-religious viewpoint, but I think some of the concepts of jealousy and dealing with such situations still apply. I think that when we are angry for example, when jealous, we exhume a lot of mental energy with negative thinking. Instead, perhaps, its better to channel that energy on thinking how you can improve yourself rather than concentrating on what other people are doing and therefore feeling weakened by it.
Reply 9
Jaffa Gardens
I JUST DON'T WANT to want to marry.


Marriage isn't the be all and end all of everything. If you don't want to get married....then don't :confused:

Maybe when you find the right person you'll feel differently, but until then concentrate on your career, if that's what makes you happy, and don't dwell on what everyone else is doing.
Reply 10
Gem
Marriage isn't the be all and end all of everything. If you don't want to get married....then don't :confused:
I think the point is that she does want to marry, but as there seems to be no suitable partners, she wishes the desire didn't exist.

@ Jaffa Gardens: I know Catholics who are dating (in one case engaged to) non-Catholics. It isn't against the Church or the Bible. So why limit yourself to CathSoc?
Reply 11
:eek: It was moved! To the person saying it was in the wrong forum, I did post in the Religion forum initially, so I guess someone moved it, but it's been moved again to H & R!

Thanks for advice people, I do feel a bit embarrassed though- regretting writing such self indulgent stuff!

Jaffa Gardens