The Misandry Bubble - A Good Explanation For What Is Happening In Society Watch

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This is a long article but well worth it: The Misandry Bubble

Executive Summary : The Western World has quietly become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men and children, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.
It claims that society / dating culture has been heavily affected by four things since 1960:

1) Easy contraception (condoms, pills, and abortions)
2) 'No fault' divorce, asset division, and alimony
3) Female economic freedom
4) Female-Centric social engineering (e.g. rigged divorce laws)

It introduces the concept of Marriage 2.0, which men are increasingly avoiding.

Marriage 1.0:
- traditional marriage.
- married young, no sex before marriage, very little divorce

Marriage 2.0:
- no fault divorce, leading to high divorce rates (with mainly women initiating divorce)
- likely to have multiple partners before marriage (so the pair bond is weaker)
- women delaying marriage so giving their husband less of their youth & beauty
- child custody nearly always granted to women, with child support (and often alimony) paid by men; men get financially shafted in divorce

What will change things?
1) men learning how to pick up women
2) adult entertainment technologies (e.g. virtual reality porn)
3) globalisation (rise of Islam; men leaving for greener pastures in SE Asia, Eastern Europe and South America; medical tourism, e.g. having a baby through a surrogate mother)
4) male economic disengagement and resultant tax-base erosion

Some quotes from towards the end:
I will repeat again that there will never, ever be a successful human society where men have no incentive to aspire to the full maximum of their productive and entrepreneurial capabilities.
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The 'feminist' hypergamous utopia is not self-financing, but is precariously dependent on every beta man working at his full capacity, without which the government bubble, inseparable from the misandry bubble, collapses. Misandry is thus mathematically impossible to finance for any extended period of time.
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On 1/1/2020, we will assess how the misandry bubble popped and the fallout that women are suffering under for having made the mistake of letting 'feminists' control their destiny.
What do you think? Is society on a sustainable path? Do you think his predictions are accurate and if not, why not? Why should men get married under marriage 2.0? If men don't want to get married, what motivation do they have to work hard when tax rates are so high for high earners? What happens to a society in which men are incentivised to become players or porn addict drop outs rather than hard working fathers and husbands? What can be done to improve things?
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I think we'll somewhat follow the Nordic/Scandinavian model but it'll take a lot longer than 2020.
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The "report" both referred to feminist and feminism in inverted commas, and mentioned "beta" males. I call anti-feminist drivel in wolfs clothing from a non-peer reviewed source.
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Sometimes I feel like I'm back in kindergarten, boys on one side of the class and other side. That's genuinely what TSR is like on the society boards these days.

Anyhow, though that report contains some real issues that I sympathize with (divorce laws, child custody), its ridiculously exaggerated in certain parts and does scream anti-feminist big time, and something written in such a loaded manner will only lower the piece's credibility IMO. There's no misandry bubble ffs. Sure, there are issues men face, just like there are several issues women face, which is why there are MRA's and also feminists...but its not like the feminism "agenda" is taking over the world and ruining lives of all men :lol: .
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(Original post by Messalina)
The "report" both referred to feminist and feminism in inverted commas, and mentioned "beta" males. I call anti-feminist drivel in wolfs clothing from a non-peer reviewed source.
Claiming that something is 'anti-feminist drivel' doesn't mean it has no merit. I repeat my questions which you didn't properly answer:

What do you think? Is society on a sustainable path? Do you think his predictions are accurate and if not, why not? Why should men get married under marriage 2.0? If men don't want to get married, what motivation do they have to work hard when tax rates are so high for high earners? What happens to a society in which men are incentivised to become players or porn addict drop outs rather than hard working fathers and husbands? What can be done to improve things?
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Men being "undervalued" and women "overvalued" isn't a new phenomenon. It is older than humanity itself.

Women are the reproductive bottleneck, and so are automatically considered important. Men can reproduce almost infinitely, and so must prove value to their societies some other way.

What is occurring in today's society is that there is enough wealth floating around that women have all of their material needs met and most men are not capable of demonstrating enough value to give them bargaining power with women. The top few % of men who are capable of demonstrating value are doing fine and have much lower divorce rates (read: Coming Apart by Charles Murray).
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