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(Original post by mc_watson87)
His record is still good.
If he does well in Euro 2004 (which i expect, hoping for a win) let him stay.
If they do not progress, to hell with him, mwhahaha. (but not to Chelsea)

The nucleus (lol) is what Sheared provided to the team. Unlike Mr Beck person
Yes, Shearer is good. But England can't rely on one player in retirement to possibly win a game. Or else, they are doomed to failure in euro 2004...
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(Original post by TheWolf)
even if you have a good manager you cant coach a packet of crisps to play football
HAHAHA...

Are you implying that these "superb" players are infact not so great?
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(Original post by mc_watson87)
His record is still good.
If he does well in Euro 2004 (which i expect, hoping for a win) let him stay.
If they do not progress, to hell with him, mwhahaha. (but not to Chelsea)

The nucleus (lol) is what Sheared provided to the team. Unlike Mr Beck person
A good record, well of course, who the hell have we played!

By nucleus I mean a set of players who the rest of the team/squad is built around, the nucleus would gel as a unit and welcome and see off other team members over time. But with all this chopping and changing there is no chance for a cohesive unit to get together.
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(Original post by XTinaA)
A good record, well of course, who the hell have we played!
Argentina, Germany, Turkey, loads of good teams!!!
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(Original post by XTinaA)
On the subject of the overrated I'd like to make a rather controversial nomination:

Michael Owen.

Very overrated, still living off the reputation acquired in France 98 and a relatively small season goal tally.
I agree completely, he has been a fairly decent striker in the prem, but he hasn't exactly set it alight.
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(Original post by mc_watson87)
Argentina, Germany, Turkey, loads of good teams!!!
Funny, they're the only three I can think of that we can call "good" teams that we beat. It was the worst German side in history. Turkey are another flash-in-the-pan on the international scene. We lost to Holland, and more recently Sweden.
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(Original post by XTinaA)
Funny, they're the only three I can think of that we can call "good" teams that we beat. It was the worst German side in history. Turkey are another flash-in-the-pan on the international scene. We lost to Holland, and more recently Sweden.
are you sure that we can beat Argentina :confused:
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(Original post by TheWolf)
are you sure that we can beat Argentina :confused:
We did two years ago, World Cup, remember?

Funny, I expected at least one person to defend Owen. Hmmph no fun.
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(Original post by bono)
Rooney is another person that hasn't done much in a while. However, he is young, he should soon pick up again.
He does have great potential, but unlike Owen he is being allowed to develop slowly, so he will be great for many years to come. Owen was rushed and has paid for it with recurring injuries and inconsistent form.
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(Original post by piginapoke)
Turkey are so good that they've never scored a goal against England, and were knocked out of Euro 2004 by Latvia or someone equally crap.
nah turkey isnt that great atm, after world cup their form is by no means excellent
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(Original post by piginapoke)
Turkey are so good that they've never scored a goal against England, and were knocked out of Euro 2004 by Latvia or someone equally crap.
Latvia it was <thumbs up>... wasn't it...

On the Rooney thing, you got to respect David Moyes, lesser managers would be tempted to exploit such talent regularly.
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(Original post by bono)
If England need to get some old 35 year old out of retirement to play for them, then how on earth can you honestly expect England to win anything or even get to a final? A semi even.
Even the great Brazil were willing to play Romerio as a 36 year old.
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(Original post by XTinaA)
Latvia it was <thumbs up>... wasn't it...

On the Rooney thing, you got to respect David Moyes, lesser managers would be tempted to exploit such talent regularly.
good investment for the future - i recond hell be sold to real/united in the near future
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(Original post by piginapoke)
Or Chelsea. United can't outbid Chelsea for anyone any more.
true true chelsea more likely
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Yes I respect Moyes, but it goes to show how crap the England team is when Rooney is already one of the best and most creative players in the side; if England were truly good, wouldn't Rooney have to force his way into the side past several top notch players?
Could it not be a measure of Rooney's ability? Or just Eriksson's stubbornness? He really should consider Smith and Defoe some more, and Vassell can do a job for England, he has done on the occasions I've seen him.
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(Original post by piginapoke)
Or Chelsea. United can't outbid Chelsea for anyone any more.
He's exactly the sort of player Ranieri would want, young, able and willing to work. Trouble is, he wouldn't leave Everton, and Ranieri may not be at Chelsea for much longer.
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Could it not be a measure of Rooney's ability? Or just Eriksson's stubbornness? He really should consider Smith and Defoe some more, and Vassell can do a job for England, he has done on the occasions I've seen him.
you think alan smith is a good player xTinA?
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you think alan smith is a good player xTinA?
I do indeed. I've seen very little to suggest he's otherwise.
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(Original post by XTinaA)
He's exactly the sort of player Ranieri would want, young, able and willing to work. Trouble is, he wouldn't leave Everton, and Ranieri may not be at Chelsea for much longer.
incidentally, what's this i hear about a bustup between Francis Jeffers and David Moyes?

ranieri's always looking for *sparks* to lift his team. you would have thought they had plenty of players without having to bring in Scott Parker... who is now one of their key figures. No doubt Rooney will be such a person if chelsea lose their way again, and abromovich can pull the purse strings!
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I do indeed. I've seen very little to suggest he's otherwise.
i've seen very little myself so i wont comment..he needs to move to a better club than leeds sometimes soon
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