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Iraqi Justice Minister Hassan al-Shimmari has proposed a new law that would lower the country’s legal age for marriage to 9, legalize marital rape, ban women from leaving the home without the permission of their husbands, would prohibit Muslim men from marrying non-Muslims, bestow automatic custody of the children on men in divorces, and more.
Smells like Iraqi freedom.
But please don’t think Iraq is illiberal, the law does permit an exception to the inter-faith marriage ban. Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women for a few hours if they want to screw them, then divorce them after they have sex. It’s a “thing” in that region called “temporary marriage,” and it, of course, will be protected under the new law.
Oh, but it gets better. Ali al-Moussawi, a spokesman for Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, defended the law bycomparing it to gay marriage in the West.
11 year old Yemeni girl Nada Al Ahdal, who ran away and threatened to kill herself, rather than be married off to her uncle.
“What we have done is democratic. We took this to be discussed, then voted on,” al-Moussawi said. “We didn’t object straight away. Some media outlets show Iraq as if it has gone backwards, but this isn’t true. In the west, people are talking about gay marriage. This is something we would never discuss and it is against our religion, our nature, yet we don’t say that they are backwards.”
How open-minded.
A spokesman for the Justice Minister claims the law, which reportedlyonly applies to the country’s Shia majority, is “optional” for Shia, whatever that means. One suspects it’s not optional for 9-year-old girls, or grown women, but rather for the men who want to control them.
The current legal age to marry in Iraq is 18 without parental approval, and 15 with it. Child brides are a problem in many Muslim countries. We’ve reported on cases in Yemen (an 11-year-old girl fleeing her uncle-fiancé and then threatening to kill herself), and Saudi Arabia (where a terrified 15-year-old girl was forced to marry a man who was over the age of 90), but it happens all over.
A report from Iraq claims that the marrying-off of young girls became prevalent after the US invasion:[T]he marriage of young girls in Iraq became prevalent in the aftermath of the American invasion in 2003 when the American Occupation Authority suspended the Iraqi constitution and laws that set the legal punishment for the fathers and the bridegroom of young girls as long as life term in prison.

It goes on to cite the Iraqi Minister of Planning Ali Shukri claiming that, “Iraq is the number one country in the world in marriages of young girls.”
Hoorah.

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Unsuprisingly, western feminists will say nothing about this. Because the way women are seen on X factor is a far more pressing issue.


This is sick. Iraq, and the middle east in general is a backward misogynistic cesspit. I wonder what unites them and is the actual reasoning behind these laws? I can say with certainty it is completely and abosultely not extremist Islam.

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aren't you being a bit racist hilary ? who are we to tell people how to run their countries ?
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Looks like America's mission of spreading freedom has worked a charm, it only cost half a million lives as well.
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Looks like America's mission of spreading freedom has worked a charm, it only cost half a million lives as well.
I wonder how many lives Islam has cost over the last few centuries.
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(Original post by the mezzil)
Unsuprisingly, western feminists will say nothing about this. Because the way women are seen on X factor is a far more pressing issue.


This is sick. Iraq, and the middle east in general is a backward misogynistic cesspit. I wonder what unites them and is the actual reasoning behind these laws? I can say with certainty it is completely and abosultely not extremist Islam.

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Religion.
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aren't you being a bit racist hilary ? who are we to tell people how to run their countries ?
As their creditor?
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You're right, we should just accept injustice in order to not be seen as politically incorrect. We were also wrong to boycott apartheid South Africa because, after all, how they run their countries is none of our business.

Dumb ****.
Islamic law, practice and custom are different from ours. get over it.
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aren't you being a bit racist hilary ? who are we to tell people how to run their countries ?
That's not running a country, that's abuse of human rights.
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Religion.
But thats racisttttttttt.

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aren't you being a bit racist hilary ? who are we to tell people how to run their countries ?
Waaaaaahhhhh!!! Hes being racist for saying it is unfair to be sexist towards a woman because its in their religion!!! RACISTTTT!!! Muhhhh freedomssss


Grow up.

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Iraq and Saudi Arabia have rape cultures.
The UK and US do not.

Know the difference; it could prevent people from thinking you're a whiny solipsist, who only refers to the Middle East to bolster your position, solely when it suits you.
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Islamic law, practice and custom are different from ours. get over it.
But China is their creditor.
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God, Bush and Blair were ****ing scum.
You left out a serial comma there.
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If it is true, this is very disturbing indeed. Women's rights (and children's rights) are being completely abused in these kinds of places, and it is disgusting.

Also, the law about temporary marriages, just so that men can essentially sleep with a prostitute but claim it is marital sex is ridiculously hypocritical. There is no way that is actually considered okay in Islam.
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(Original post by the mezzil)
Waaaaaahhhhh!!! Hes being racist for saying it is unfair to be sexist towards a woman because its in their religion!!! RACISTTTT!!! Muhhhh freedomssss


Grow up.

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You left out a serial comma there.
The first comma is vocative. :rolleyes:
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I've ran out of exasperated words to say about this sort of thing. What can be done, though?
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A backwards country, the sooner Kurdistan becomes independent, the better.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. You can't honestly think that's going to solve anything? It's a mindset that dominates all of the stupid Iraqi leaders. I went to Kurdistan last summer and whole areas are occupied by people who've left Baghdad etc there is no doubt that by Kurdistan being an independent country they wouldn't be allowed in anymore and more people would die so...
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(Original post by Iridescenzo)
The first comma is vocative. :rolleyes:
But god is a scum too.
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