Please help with a definition of "TERTIARY EDUCATION"

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Jeremy Russell
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I'm trying to get a precise definition of the term "tertiary education" and would be very grateful
for any help. Specifically, I'm trying to distinguish between these:

- tertiary education
- higher education
- further education
- advanced education

with reference to an Arts Foundation course i.e. post GNVQ and pre Bachelors.

I'm interested in the typical age range that "tertiary education" really covers and where the phrase
fits into the typical UK education hierarchy. Hopefully, I'll get inundated with answers!!

Thanks in advance

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Wally
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Umm something to do with 3? Sorry can't help anymore than that.
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Martin Nicholso
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In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell
<[email protected]> writes
[q1]>I'm trying to get a precise definition of the term "tertiary education" and would be very grateful[/q1]
[q1]>for any help. Specifically, I'm trying to distinguish between these:[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>- tertiary education[/q1]

A tertiary college caters for post GCSE students (16) through to pensioners. Course range in level
from totally beginners through to A level or equivalent.

[q1]>- higher education[/q1]

Post A level. HNC, HND degrees and the like/

[q1]>- further education[/q1]

As tertiary but with a different name.

[q1]>- advanced education[/q1]

No one universally agreed definition.

[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>with reference to an Arts Foundation course i.e. post GNVQ and pre Bachelors.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>I'm interested in the typical age range that "tertiary education" really covers and where the[/q1]
[q1]>phrase fits into the typical UK education hierarchy. Hopefully, I'll get inundated with answers!![/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Thanks in advance[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Jeremy Russell[/q1]

Martin Nicholson, Daventry, UK

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Liz Hanson
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In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell
<[email protected]> writes
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>- tertiary education[/q1]
[q1]>- higher education[/q1]
[q1]>- further education[/q1]
[q1]>- advanced education[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]

Jeremy

Disclaimer: I'm sat at home with 'flu, so my ramblings may have no relevance. However, two of the
terms have a meaning to me.

Further education: Just about any education that happens after leaving school short of degree-level.
I work in a college of further education. We cover GCSE resits, AS/A(2) level GCE, GNVQ
Foundation/Intermediate/Advanced, BTEC ND, BTEC HNC, City and Guilds, and "access to higher
education" courses, plus some that I may have forgotten, and courses which lead to no qualification
whatever, which people join to learn a particular skill/craft for interest's sake. The age range of
our students is from 16 to ... certainly the eighties.

Higher education: Anything to do with degrees (bachelors etc.).

I cannot help with Tertiary, although I have heard the term. (Perhaps it covers both further and
higher?) And "Advanced" has too many specialised meanings (A-level, advanced gnvq) to have a role
alongside the other three in my opinion.
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Jeremy Russell
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Thank you, Martin. Based on your reply, a Bachelors degree is probably not therefore classified as
"tertiary education"?

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:58:43 +0000, Martin Nicholson <[email protected]> wrote:

[q1]>In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell[/q1]
[q1]><[email protected]> writes[/q1]
[q2]>>I'm trying to get a precise definition of the term "tertiary education" and would be very grateful[/q2]
[q2]>>for any help. Specifically, I'm trying to distinguish between these:[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>- tertiary education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>A tertiary college caters for post GCSE students (16) through to pensioners. Course range in level[/q1]
[q1]>from totally beginners through to A level or equivalent.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]>>- higher education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Post A level. HNC, HND degrees and the like/[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]>>- further education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>As tertiary but with a different name.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]>>- advanced education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>No one universally agreed definition.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>with reference to an Arts Foundation course i.e. post GNVQ and pre Bachelors.[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>I'm interested in the typical age range that "tertiary education" really covers and where the[/q2]
[q2]>>phrase fits into the typical UK education hierarchy. Hopefully, I'll get inundated with answers!![/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>Thanks in advance[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>Jeremy Russell[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Martin Nicholson, Daventry, UK[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Centre - Observatory Code 456[/q1]
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Jeremy Russell
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Thanks, Liz. (Wish you better!!!)

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:11:40 +0000, Liz Hanson <[email protected]> wrote:

[q1]>In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell[/q1]
[q1]><[email protected]> writes[/q1]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>- tertiary education[/q2]
[q2]>>- higher education[/q2]
[q2]>>- further education[/q2]
[q2]>>- advanced education[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Jeremy[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Disclaimer: I'm sat at home with 'flu, so my ramblings may have no relevance. However, two of the[/q1]
[q1]>terms have a meaning to me.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Further education: Just about any education that happens after leaving school short of[/q1]
[q1]>degree-level. I work in a college of further education. We cover GCSE resits, AS/A(2) level GCE,[/q1]
[q1]>GNVQ Foundation/Intermediate/Advanced, BTEC ND, BTEC HNC, City and Guilds, and "access to higher[/q1]
[q1]>education" courses, plus some that I may have forgotten, and courses which lead to no qualification[/q1]
[q1]>whatever, which people join to learn a particular skill/craft for interest's sake. The age range of[/q1]
[q1]>our students is from 16 to ... certainly the eighties.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Higher education: Anything to do with degrees (bachelors etc.).[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>I cannot help with Tertiary, although I have heard the term. (Perhaps it covers both further and[/q1]
[q1]>higher?) And "Advanced" has too many specialised meanings (A-level, advanced gnvq) to have a role[/q1]
[q1]>alongside the other three in my opinion.[/q1]
[q1]>--[/q1]
[q1]>Liz Hanson[/q1]
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John Tissandier
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[q1]> I cannot help with Tertiary, although I have heard the term. (Perhaps it covers both further and[/q1]
[q1]> higher?)[/q1]

In an area you could have an FE college (vocational courses) and a 6th form college (A level), or
you could have one tertiary college which does both and also evening classes and perhaps some
franchised degree courses.

John
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Peter French
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Just to confuse issues, in Australia 'Tertiary" officially refers to nay formal course post Year 12
- that is TAFE (your NVQ) and any University course at any level - my BEd, MEd, MAcc, and EdD are
all regarded as tertiary.

Enjoy the confusion and/or lack of standardisation/harmonisation in terminology.

Peter French Melbourne, Australia

John Tissandier <[email protected] .co.uk> wrote in message
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[q2]> > I cannot help with Tertiary, although I have heard the term. (Perhaps[/q2]
it
[q2]> > covers both further and higher?)[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> In an area you could have an FE college (vocational courses) and a 6th[/q1]
form
[q1]> college (A level), or you could have one tertiary college which does both[/q1]
and
[q1]> also evening classes and perhaps some franchised degree courses.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> John[/q1]
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Joe Wilson
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Is Tertiary not just a term to distinguish between Primary Education and Secondary Education.

Joe Wilson SFEU

"Martin Nicholson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[q1]> In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell[/q1]
[q1]> <[email protected]> writes[/q1]
[q2]> >I'm trying to get a precise definition of the term "tertiary education" and would be very[/q2]
[q2]> >grateful for any help. Specifically, I'm trying to distinguish between these:[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >- tertiary education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> A tertiary college caters for post GCSE students (16) through to pensioners. Course range in level[/q1]
[q1]> from totally beginners through to A level or equivalent.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]> >- higher education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Post A level. HNC, HND degrees and the like/[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]> >- further education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> As tertiary but with a different name.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]> >- advanced education[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> No one universally agreed definition.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >with reference to an Arts Foundation course i.e. post GNVQ and pre Bachelors.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >I'm interested in the typical age range that "tertiary education" really covers and where the[/q2]
[q2]> >phrase fits into the typical UK education hierarchy. Hopefully, I'll get inundated with answers!![/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >Thanks in advance[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >Jeremy Russell[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Martin Nicholson, Daventry, UK[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Centre - Observatory Code[/q1]
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Jeremy Russell
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Apparently not - I've been told that tertiary means after secondary and can include university
(bachelors, masters and even doctorate)!

Thanks anyways

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:34:38 -0000, "joe wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:

[q1]>Is Tertiary not just a term to distinguish between Primary Education and Secondary Education.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Joe Wilson SFEU[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>"Martin Nicholson" <[email protected]> wrote in message[/q1]
[q1]>news:[email protected]...[/q1]
[q2]>> In article <[email protected] sting.google.com>, Jeremy Russell[/q2]
[q2]>> <[email protected]> writes[/q2]
[q2]>> >I'm trying to get a precise definition of the term "tertiary education" and would be very[/q2]
[q2]>> >grateful for any help. Specifically, I'm trying to distinguish between these:[/q2]
[q2]>> >[/q2]
[q2]>> >- tertiary education[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> A tertiary college caters for post GCSE students (16) through to pensioners. Course range in[/q2]
[q2]>> level from totally beginners through to A level or equivalent.[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> >- higher education[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> Post A level. HNC, HND degrees and the like/[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> >- further education[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> As tertiary but with a different name.[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> >- advanced education[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> No one universally agreed definition.[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> >[/q2]
[q2]>> >with reference to an Arts Foundation course i.e. post GNVQ and pre Bachelors.[/q2]
[q2]>> >[/q2]
[q2]>> >I'm interested in the typical age range that "tertiary education" really covers and where the[/q2]
[q2]>> >phrase fits into the typical UK education hierarchy. Hopefully, I'll get inundated with[/q2]
[q2]>> >answers!![/q2]
[q2]>> >[/q2]
[q2]>> >Thanks in advance[/q2]
[q2]>> >[/q2]
[q2]>> >Jeremy Russell[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> Martin Nicholson, Daventry, UK[/q2]
[q2]>>[/q2]
[q2]>> International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Centre - Observatory Code[/q2]
[q1]>456[/q1]
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Martin Nicholso
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In article <[email protected]>, David Lane
<[email protected]> writes
[q1]>Joe[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>No - Tertiary education is what follows secondary; i.e. any form of higher education or post-18[/q1]
[q1]>further education.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Regards[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>David[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
Tertiary Colleges deal with post-16 students.

Martin Nicholson, Daventry, UK

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http://www.gcse-ict.info/astronomy/front.htm
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