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    I've got a relatively decent laptop for gaming but it's starting to overheat quite frequently.

    I'm an xbox360 user at the moment and considering getting a next gen console. The only real difference I can see between the consoles are the exclusive titles (and xbox kinect)
    Can anyone explain if one is better than the other in terms of specs?
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    PS4 has more bandwith rich RAM, and more compute units in the GPU I believe? Puts it more in line with the PC's HD 7870, whereas the Xbone is more like an HD 7770. A whole 100 apart. The CPUs are pretty much identical I believe, with the Xbone running at slightly higher clock speed. Xbox is pretty cheap atm if you can get a titanfall bundle from amazon (£350). Oh, also, the xbone has a 32mb cache of "super high speed" edram I think, that helps it make up for the slower DDR3 ram it uses, compared to the GDDR5 found in the PS4 (my computer has a 3gb graphics card(GDDR5), and 8gb of system ram (DDR3) for comparison).

    You should put money either towards building yourself a full computer rig (which is ridiculously easy, and best bang for your buck), or a laptop as you mentioned, although they're pretty expensive for a good one.
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    (Original post by samthemiller)
    PS4 has more bandwith rich RAM, and more compute units in the GPU I believe? Puts it more in line with the PC's HD 7870, whereas the Xbone is more like an HD 7770. A whole 100 apart. The CPUs are pretty much identical I believe, with the Xbone running at slightly higher clock speed. Xbox is pretty cheap atm if you can get a titanfall bundle from amazon (£350). Oh, also, the xbone has a 32mb cache of "super high speed" edram I think, that helps it make up for the slower DDR3 ram it uses, compared to the GDDR5 found in the PS4 (my computer has a 3gb graphics card(GDDR5), and 8gb of system ram (DDR3) for comparison).

    You should put money either towards building yourself a full computer rig (which is ridiculously easy, and best bang for your buck), or a laptop as you mentioned, although they're pretty expensive for a good one.
    So the PS4 is only marginally better?

    Thank you! I've been considering a rig but I don't think I have the knowledge to do it really. I'm also going to be studying a pgce next year so I don't really see myself having time for a lot of gaming anyway and I imagine after a year, I'd probably need to upset my PC anyway? Or would a decent rig last me a good while with only needing to upgrade parts every so often?
    Your answer was really helpful, thanks!
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    So the PS4 is only marginally better?
    Depends on how you define "marginal". The PS4 is unambiguously more powerful. It's essentially the same hardware as the Xbox One but better.

    The question is what practical difference it will make. So far several multi platform games have been lower resolution on the Xbox One, or the frame rate has been less consistent. If such things bother you, then the PS4 is better. If not, they're still the same games that play the same at the end of the day, so which exclusives you prefer is a more important factor.

    Personally, there aren't any exclusives for either I'm that bothered about, so I though I might as well get the PS4 and have the best versions of multi platform games.
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Depends on how you define "marginal". The PS4 is unambiguously more powerful. It's essentially the same hardware as the Xbox One but better.

    The question is what practical difference it will make. So far several multi platform games have been lower resolution on the Xbox One, or the frame rate has been less consistent. If such things bother you, then the PS4 is better. If not, they're still the same games that play the same at the end of the day, so which exclusives you prefer is a more important factor.

    Personally, there aren't any exclusives for either I'm that bothered about, so I though I might as well get the PS4 and have the best versions of multi platform games.
    Thanks for clearing that up hmm, have to say I'm feeling very tempted by a ps4 now. I do prefer some exclusives for the Xbone but, I'm sure I could always play them some other way!
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Depends on how you define "marginal". The PS4 is unambiguously more powerful. It's essentially the same hardware as the Xbox One but better.

    The question is what practical difference it will make. So far several multi platform games have been lower resolution on the Xbox One, or the frame rate has been less consistent. If such things bother you, then the PS4 is better. If not, they're still the same games that play the same at the end of the day, so which exclusives you prefer is a more important factor.

    Personally, there aren't any exclusives for either I'm that bothered about, so I though I might as well get the PS4 and have the best versions of multi platform games.
    Hey hey hey, the PS4 really isn't that much more powerful that the xbox one on account of it's lack of EDRAM, it's just that the developer tools for it are easier to use (I think as all the memory is in one pool), which is why people can't get 1080p out of the Xbox yet.

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    So the PS4 is only marginally better?

    Thank you! I've been considering a rig but I don't think I have the knowledge to do it really. I'm also going to be studying a pgce next year so I don't really see myself having time for a lot of gaming anyway and I imagine after a year, I'd probably need to upset my PC anyway? Or would a decent rig last me a good while with only needing to upgrade parts every so often?
    Your answer was really helpful, thanks!
    Depends how much you spend. Because developers build games on the PC, but aimed at consoles, they're always a little limited with what they can do, meaning that if you aim to build a PC as powerful as a next gen (current gen?) console, you'll be able to run games for a few years minimum (4 years?) and remember, you can always turn the settings down on PC if it starts to lag. In reality, you might want to upgrade say... the gpu in a few years, which you can do really easily, and it'll extend the lifespan of your computer for gaming. Also, even if you don't upgrade, you'll still be able to use your computer for normal computer things in 10 years, browsing, word, powerpoint, etc... meaning that you're not going to be left with a brick that does nothing.

    As for experience, I wouldn't worry, I built my PC from scratch last summer (I'm 16 hehe), and it works! Or if you don't feel comfortable, you could pay someone to build it for you, there are many specialist sites that offer custom rigs, and if you don't mess around and get some solid parts, there's no reason you can't run games on ultra for agesss. (Of course budget dependent)

    With consoles, what you pay for is what you're stuck with for the next 5-10 years, and you need to remember that most, if not all games nowadays (excluding annoying PS4 exclusives, the last of us I'm looking at you), are available on PC, and they run better than on consoles. With PCs and laptops though, you get what you paid for, so consider how much you're willing to spend. Mid to high range PCs can be from £300-£3000, whilst a good gaming laptop can cost you upward of £1500 easily, whereas consoles are around the £300 mark.

    In my opinion, it's worth looking into building your own rig. If you can afford to spend around £500, you can build yourself a kick ass PC that'll be able to max out games for the next year or two. Who doesn't want shiny graphics??? Not to mention that the PC community is just, well, better.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    I've got a relatively decent laptop for gaming but it's starting to overheat quite frequently.

    I'm an xbox360 user at the moment and considering getting a next gen console. The only real difference I can see between the consoles are the exclusive titles (and xbox kinect)
    Can anyone explain if one is better than the other in terms of specs?
    Consider cleaning your fans and reapplying thermal paste on your CPU in your laptop. Then try it.

    What are your laptop specs?

    Consoles are much betters in terms of less faffing about and being connected with friends.
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    (Original post by samthemiller)
    Hey hey hey, the PS4 really isn't that much more powerful that the xbox one on account of it's lack of EDRAM, it's just that the developer tools for it are easier to use (I think as all the memory is in one pool), which is why people can't get 1080p out of the Xbox yet.
    As I said, depends on your definition of "marginal". The difference is big enough that there is likely to be a noticeable difference in visual quality, but probably not big enough to particularly affect your enjoyment of the game.

    The EDRAM doesn't make up for the fast GDDR5 in the PS4. I think that is even faster than the Xbox One's EDRAM, and that's a whole 5GB of it (3GB is reserved for the OS) instead of just 32MB. It's also not just the RAM that's faster, the GPU is more powerful.

    Since the two consoles are otherwise so similar, the Xbox One is always going to be behind from a technical point of view. Any optimisations you make for it could be done on the PS4 as well. Other than EDRAM related stuff, but all that could do is narrow the gap a little.

    Not that the technical details are really a deciding factor for most people. The exclusives and features of each one are probably what matters to most people.
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    As neither console has any decent games, and won't for quite some time.

    Get a laptop.
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    If you want to use a computer for gaming, get a desktop PC not a laptop
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    That gtx 880m though

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    Wait for the price to drop even more in the xbone and then buy it. Some are as cheap as £300 now, waiting a few months more could save you a lot of money. I'm personally waiting for it to go to about £250 and I'm still debating as to that fact if I need it or not. Besides, I'm used to the Xbox system so for me, it has to be the xbone.

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    None, get a fairly decent gaming rig and that will have specs that will surpass PS5 and Xbox Two (would be funny if they called it that XD)

    I made a PC for £900 and it's specs surpass that of the PS4 and Xbone combined.
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    Xbone definitely Xbone.

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    Even though it is peer pressure, I suggest going on the platform where most/all your friends are playing on
 
 
 
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