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I think ants are utterly awesome, for the following reasons

*They have a complex division of labour (workers, soldiers, queens)

*They practice agriculture (the leafcutter ants chop up leaves into a mulch which they cultivate in underground fungus gardens, and they eat the fungus that grows as a result)

*They domesticate animals (some ant species treat the mealybug like cows, they protect them from predators and move them about to the best pastures, and in return they eat their nectar)

*They have technology (they build their nests to incorporate air conditioning ducts)

*They have a healthcare system (they gather tree resin for its antibiotic properties, and have particular ants whose job is to remove parasites and bad things from the nest)

*They have waste management (they remove their dead and put them in graveyards, along with other waste)

*They practice warfare (the ants have co-ordinated attacks on other colonies to plunder their larvae for food)

*They have a sophisticated ant internet (using their pheromones, they co-ordinate construction, battles, food gathering)

*They control their own reproduction (if there is an attack on the nest, the pheromone releases will tell the brood-workers to create more soldiers)


For these reasons, I think they are a most excellent species.
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
I think ants are utterly awesome, for the following reasons

*They have a complex division of labour (workers, soldiers, queens)

*They practice agriculture (the leafcutter ants chop up leaves into a mulch which then grows a fungus that they eat)

*They domesticate animals (some ant species treat the mealybug like cows, they protect them from predators and move them about to the best pastures, and in return they eat their nectar)

*They have technology (they build their nests to incorporate air conditioning ducts)

*They have a healthcare system (they gather tree resin for its antibiotic properties, and have particular ants whose job is to remove parasites and bad things from the nest)

*They have waste management (they remove their dead and put them in graveyards, along with other waste)

*They practice warfare (the ants have co-ordinated attacks on other colonies to plunder their larvae for food)

*They have a sophisticated ant internet (using their pheromones, they co-ordinate construction, battles, good gathering)

*They control their own reproduction (if there is an attack on the nest, the pheromone releases will tell the brood-workers to create more soldiers)


For these reasons, I think they are a most excellent species.
However, their society is also very hierarchical and (this occurs in bees and wasps so I would assume it also occurs in ants as hive insects) practises eugenics, only the queen and males are allowed to breed - the rest are prevented from becoming fertile.
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However, their society is also very hierarchical and (this occurs in bees and wasps so I would assume it also occurs in ants as hive insects) practises eugenics, only the queen and males are allowed to breed - the rest are prevented from becoming fertile.
True, I wouldn't necessarily want us to emulate the ants. But I feel they are the species, other than humans, which comes closest to having civilisation, of sorts.

In a lot of categories, they are really the only other species on earth that practices high-level of organisation and environmental modification. For example, agriculture; the leafcutter ants' worker drones seek out, cut and transport chopped leaves on a huge scale as the raw material to cultivate their underground fungus gardens that are their primary food source, and a kind of granary. They can't eat the toxic tropical leaves, so they use the fungus to transform the leaves into edible and succulent proteins and sugars

They even have a production-line division of labour where the larger soldier-drones will cut the leaves which will fall to the ground, and other worker-drones will transport them back to the nest.

I think they are quite amazing

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On a mature note, I agree ants are pretty amazing creatures.

On a purile note, they're all massive chubby chasers.
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
I think ants are utterly awesome, for the following reasons

*They have a complex division of labour (workers, soldiers, queens)

*They practice agriculture (the leafcutter ants chop up leaves into a mulch which then grows a fungus that they eat)

*They domesticate animals (some ant species treat the mealybug like cows, they protect them from predators and move them about to the best pastures, and in return they eat their nectar)

*They have technology (they build their nests to incorporate air conditioning ducts)

*They have a healthcare system (they gather tree resin for its antibiotic properties, and have particular ants whose job is to remove parasites and bad things from the nest)

*They have waste management (they remove their dead and put them in graveyards, along with other waste)

*They practice warfare (the ants have co-ordinated attacks on other colonies to plunder their larvae for food)

*They have a sophisticated ant internet (using their pheromones, they co-ordinate construction, battles, food gathering)

*They control their own reproduction (if there is an attack on the nest, the pheromone releases will tell the brood-workers to create more soldiers)


For these reasons, I think they are a most excellent species.
wow, that's actually pretty impressive - I think we underestimate ants for being so small, but if they were cats or dogs for example we'd probably have an entirely different perspective
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God's work is pretty amazing.
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wow, that's actually pretty impressive - I think we underestimate ants for being so small, but if they were cats or dogs for example we'd probably have an entirely different perspective
Definitely I just watched a documentary about the leaf cutter ants, I can't get over how amazing their underground fungus gardens are. They even cultivate particular bacteria that produces antibiotics to control strains of mould that would threaten their precious fungus
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God's work is pretty amazing.
Evolution is amazing :awesome:
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God's work is pretty amazing.
The existence of ants in amber from 100 million years ago pretty much definitively proves that the claims that the earth is 6000 years old and that Adam and Eve were the first creatures is false.

The ants have been here for much longer than we have, and what makes it so incredible is that they evolved, they were not created. Evolution is amazing.
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Definitely I just watched a documentary about the leaf cutter ants, I can't get over how amazing their underground fungus gardens are. They even cultivate particular bacteria that produces antibiotics to control strains of mould that would threaten their precious fungus
(by the way) sorry I mean "if they were just as big as cats and dogs", if my message didn't make sense :lol: because we usually guess that insects aren't intelligent beings because we don't actually get to see (very easily) what they do because it's on such a small level
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See the green arse of the ant above? I've eaten a few of them. They taste like bitter lemon. Quite nice tbh. :yep:

Otherwise, ants are really fantastic creatures. Their nests are nothing short of phenomenal.
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I'm glad somebody else thinks this! I think they are one of the most amazing species on earth - their society is absolutely fascinating.

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Wow, that's amazing!
Still don't like them though

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(by the way) sorry I mean "if they were just as big as cats and dogs", if my message didn't make sense :lol: because we usually guess that insects aren't intelligent beings because we don't actually get to see (very easily) what they do because it's on such a small level
Ah I got ya, if cats and dogs were practicing agriculture and fighting large scale wars with raids on each other, we would definitely be paying more attention. As you say, ants are little so it's easy to forget about their existence
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Ants are awesome, but don't discount termites also. They do lots of the things you mention and also are capable of building absolutely huge structures (10ft is pretty normal as I understand it) in such a way so that the internal climate is regular despite the changing position of the burning hot sun through the day.
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Added two videos, one to my previous post. The latter illustrates Attenborough's point that there can be no god very well (as evolution has cropped up already).

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Ants are awesome, but don't discount termites also. They do lots of the things you mention and also are capable of building absolutely huge structures (10ft is pretty normal as I understand it) in such a way so that the internal climate is regular despite the changing position of the burning hot sun through the day.
I've heard that, I'll check the them out. Also, have you heard about Japanese hornets? In the clip below, 30 Japanese hornets attack a bees nest and kill 30,000.

I think all the insects that practice eusocialism are pretty amazing.

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They're really cool! Whenever we've had ants inside the house and have had to put down ant poison I've always felt a little guilty that we're killing these intelligent sophisticated creatures. Hate it when people go out of their way to kill them
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Interesting though i'm an enemy of all insects and reptiles, i don't like them.

The most amazing creatures to me are dolphins, sharks and orcas. Their sheer intelligence for an animal is breathtaking, not many people know but Orca's are fully capable of eating Great White's with a single blow to render them harmless and it's believed there's an evolutionary response in the Shark's because it's observed that when they detect an Orca, they'll literally swim over a 1000 miles from their normal areas near Mexico in the Pacific.
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