LLb @ Oxford or Cambridge?
since you can only apply to one of them, what considerations should u take into account when deceiding which one to apply for? Obviously they're both at the top.
Is one easier to get in compared with the other?
Which one has a better law programme?
What is the uni life like (or the difference) in them?
if i missed out any questions i should ask please say so!
Oxbridge students please share with us!
sidenote: ok oxbridge doesnt do LLb's. my mistake.
Is one easier to get in compared with the other?
Which one has a better law programme?
What is the uni life like (or the difference) in them?
if i missed out any questions i should ask please say so!
Oxbridge students please share with us!
sidenote: ok oxbridge doesnt do LLb's. my mistake.
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Oxford & Cambridge don't do LLB's. Their law degrees (which are actually jurisprudence degrees I think) are BA's. Just thought I'd tell you 
Personally I'd choose Oxford but mainly cos I prefer the city. I don't think either of them is easier or has a 'better' law programme.
Personally I'd choose Oxford but mainly cos I prefer the city. I don't think either of them is easier or has a 'better' law programme.
The BA in Jurisprudence (Oxford) is different to the BA in Law at Cambridge.
Oxbridge offers BA's in most subjects at undergraduate level, but it is essentially the same thing as an LLB.
They are both great courses and are more intense than at most other universities.
They are both difficult to get admitted to. Entry requirements are likely to be AAA in A-levels and applicants usually have a very good academic record to date at the time of applying.
They are both very good law programmes and there are important differences between the two. The Oxford course is perhaps more unique because of the jurisprudence aspect of it. You really need to decide yourself which one you are going to apply to. Look at the websites to find out more about the courses/university life.
Oxbridge offers BA's in most subjects at undergraduate level, but it is essentially the same thing as an LLB.
They are both great courses and are more intense than at most other universities.
They are both difficult to get admitted to. Entry requirements are likely to be AAA in A-levels and applicants usually have a very good academic record to date at the time of applying.
They are both very good law programmes and there are important differences between the two. The Oxford course is perhaps more unique because of the jurisprudence aspect of it. You really need to decide yourself which one you are going to apply to. Look at the websites to find out more about the courses/university life.
Sorry, Cambridge do law, Oxford do jurisprudence (not sure how significant the difference is though).
Oxbridge tends to be more intense generally because they have very short terms (like 8 weeks i think) so there's a lot of work squashed into it.
Oxbridge tends to be more intense generally because they have very short terms (like 8 weeks i think) so there's a lot of work squashed into it.
Haineko
ahh my mistake. what do u mean by more intense, superdillion?
By more intese I meant there is generally more preparation to do for tutorials, by way of reading and writing essays. The "tutorial system" makes it more intense particularly as there is a very small student:tutor ratio.
With respect to essays, you have to write more than twice as many than a person doing the LLB at a non=oxbridge university.
Haineko
as in u learn more with more workload?
The general method of learning at university is through the work that you do your self, so I guess yes, if you have more of a workload then you are likely to learn more.
Haineko
how bout in terms of individual colleges? are there any well known differences as to which college is more suitable for a person who wants to apply for law in oxbridge?
At Cambridge, Downing is known as the law college.
Oxford was the only university that I visited officially.
Liked the course, had looked at this in detail. Liked the method of examination (which is different to Cambridge's Tripos system).
Had spoken to quite a few lawyers who were studying at the college that I was applying to. This is probably the place where I learnt most about it, you should do this if you can get down there.
Liked the course, had looked at this in detail. Liked the method of examination (which is different to Cambridge's Tripos system).
Had spoken to quite a few lawyers who were studying at the college that I was applying to. This is probably the place where I learnt most about it, you should do this if you can get down there.
I posted most of this a long time ago in another section of this website- I hope it is of some use in answering your questions.
Having studied at both Faculties I hope I can give an objective account. The main difference is the structure which is remarkably different, the Oxford system consists of 3 papers taken for Mods at the end of the second term and all of the other exams at the end of the third year; with Cambridge 4 exams are taken at the end of the first year and then 5 a year thereafter. With Oxford Administrative Law and Jurisprudence are compulsory- neither are compulsory at Cambridge; the Cambridge system also means you take two extra subjects than your Oxford counterparts- in effect you get 4 extra choices which your Oxford counterparts will not get which can be taken from a wide range of subjects. For Cambridge Roman Law is still compulsory in the first year, whereas Oxford gives you a choice between Roman Law and Introduction to Law (although apparently this is about to change). Although personally I would take Roman Law- the subject is fascinating and gives you a good overview about how different areas of law interact.
Cambridge supervisions for each subject run for three terms whereas Oxford tutorials in each subject tend to run for one term but be considerably more frequent during that term.
I am told that Oxford is more theoretical and Cambridge is more black letter- I am still yet to conclude on this myself, since taking Cambridge as an example there are a considerable number of Oxford educated lecturers and vice versa; some have taught at both institutions. Although from what I have seen essay questions are more common on Oxford undergraduate law papers than on Cambridge ones which tend to have more problem questions.
Given the choice I would take the Cambridge law Tripos for undergraduate studies- ultimately it gives you more choice in choosing your options, so you can take a wide range of subjects. I do however believe that the Oxford BCL has the edge for postgraduate studies, it is an excellent course, which unlike many other courses (including the Cambridge LLM) is taught by lectures, seminars and tutorials.
As for the Cities themselves there is a substantial difference which I only notice now. Cambridge has more of a rural feel, Oxford is certainly more urban, and the extent of tourism to oxford appears to be far greater than Cambridge. As for the social life as with any institution it is what you make of it yourself.
Having studied at both Faculties I hope I can give an objective account. The main difference is the structure which is remarkably different, the Oxford system consists of 3 papers taken for Mods at the end of the second term and all of the other exams at the end of the third year; with Cambridge 4 exams are taken at the end of the first year and then 5 a year thereafter. With Oxford Administrative Law and Jurisprudence are compulsory- neither are compulsory at Cambridge; the Cambridge system also means you take two extra subjects than your Oxford counterparts- in effect you get 4 extra choices which your Oxford counterparts will not get which can be taken from a wide range of subjects. For Cambridge Roman Law is still compulsory in the first year, whereas Oxford gives you a choice between Roman Law and Introduction to Law (although apparently this is about to change). Although personally I would take Roman Law- the subject is fascinating and gives you a good overview about how different areas of law interact.
Cambridge supervisions for each subject run for three terms whereas Oxford tutorials in each subject tend to run for one term but be considerably more frequent during that term.
I am told that Oxford is more theoretical and Cambridge is more black letter- I am still yet to conclude on this myself, since taking Cambridge as an example there are a considerable number of Oxford educated lecturers and vice versa; some have taught at both institutions. Although from what I have seen essay questions are more common on Oxford undergraduate law papers than on Cambridge ones which tend to have more problem questions.
Given the choice I would take the Cambridge law Tripos for undergraduate studies- ultimately it gives you more choice in choosing your options, so you can take a wide range of subjects. I do however believe that the Oxford BCL has the edge for postgraduate studies, it is an excellent course, which unlike many other courses (including the Cambridge LLM) is taught by lectures, seminars and tutorials.
As for the Cities themselves there is a substantial difference which I only notice now. Cambridge has more of a rural feel, Oxford is certainly more urban, and the extent of tourism to oxford appears to be far greater than Cambridge. As for the social life as with any institution it is what you make of it yourself.
PDJM
I do however believe that the Oxford BCL has the edge for postgraduate studies, it is an excellent course, which unlike many other courses (including the Cambridge LLM) is taught by lectures, seminars and tutorials.
I thought that the Cambridge LLM is also taught by lectures and tutorials.
If it isn't taught like that, how is it taught then?
superdillon
By more intese I meant there is generally more preparation to do for tutorials, by way of reading and writing essays. The "tutorial system" makes it more intense particularly as there is a very small student:tutor ratio.
With respect to essays, you have to write more than twice as many than a person doing the LLB at a non=oxbridge university.
With respect to essays, you have to write more than twice as many than a person doing the LLB at a non=oxbridge university.
By your reckoning a finalist at Oxbridge will write 60,000 in assessed essays plus tutorials plus drafts of essays plus lecture notes.
I think you will find "double" is an exageration.
superdillon
I thought that the Cambridge LLM is also taught by lectures and tutorials.
If it isn't taught like that, how is it taught then?
If it isn't taught like that, how is it taught then?
Most courses on the LLM at Cambridge are taught by a two hour lecture/seminar a week, the distinction between the two blurs on smaller courses. Supervisions, the Cambridge word for very small group tutorials are part of the teaching on the Law Tripos, not the LLM.
Ethereal
By your reckoning a finalist at Oxbridge will write 60,000 in assessed essays plus tutorials plus drafts of essays plus lecture notes.
I think you will find "double" is an exageration.
I think you will find "double" is an exageration.
I think you will find that your reasoning here is wrong. At Oxbridge universities you do have to write more than twice as many essays than at non-oxbridge universities. This is true not only for law but English and I'm sure many more subjects.
Didn't mention "lecture notes".
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