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Reply 1
I'm looking to do the JD programme at Kings. A couple of years at Columbia State Uni, fantastic!!

I'm not sure how competitive it is. However, I'm gonna really work my ass off next year, which I've never really done till after Christmas this year, so hopefully I'll get in. The KCL website doesnt have an awful lot about it. If I cant do the JD, I at least hope to do the Australia/Singapore/Belgium/Sweden/Netherlands programme.
Reply 3
Lord Huntroyde

in each University only 2 people per year are allowed to go for it + need exceptionally high standard work during 1st year + exceptionally deep pockets - financial implications of funding your study fees in a top American uni like Columbia - up to $30000 a year
Reply 4
Kurdt Morello
...financial implications of funding your study fees in a top American uni like Columbia - up to $30000 a year


Crikey!! Do the government not give you a grant??
Reply 5
kingslaw
Crikey!! Do the government not give you a grant??

not entirely sure to be honest - might have to ask uni for a grant/ govt./ or take out a proper loan from a bank - i think fee exemptions for international students in USA has ended big time especially since all this terrorism stuff.
Reply 6
Kurdt Morello
i think fee exemptions for international students in USA has ended big time especially since all this terrorism stuff.


Its OK, I'm not asian looking so I should be alright!

Damn racist Americans!
Reply 7
If I make good on my offer at LSE then I will apply for this. I've been really interested in doing this programme, but on the LSE page about it (http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/law/news/lse_columbia_double_degree_progr.htm) it mentions the maaaaajor cost implications and also that 'Given the graduate, as opposed to undergraduate, status of law studies in the US, it is understood that Columbia has a preference for more mature candidates who demonstrate a breadth of experience appropriate to undertaking US legal studies at the graduate level.' So erm they may prefer mature students.

Still, no harm in trying.
Reply 8
Resonance
If I make good on my offer at LSE then I will apply for this. I've been really interested in doing this programme, but on the LSE page about it (http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/law/news/lse_columbia_double_degree_progr.htm) it mentions the maaaaajor cost implications and also that 'Given the graduate, as opposed to undergraduate, status of law studies in the US, it is understood that Columbia has a preference for more mature candidates who demonstrate a breadth of experience appropriate to undertaking US legal studies at the graduate level.' So erm they may prefer mature students.

Still, no harm in trying.

Unfortunately I dont think one can apply to go on the JD programme - two of the best students each year are picked by the Law faculties of each university to go on the programme based on the quality of their university work, their a-levels and gcses (if required) and their general manner - are they motivated enough to really make a success of themselves abroad and represent the University particularly well. If you get on well with the lecturers and have a reputation as a very hard-working studious degree student and are perceived as a person that is willing to go the extra mile and work the extra hour - you will be picked. And a lot of it is down to luck too + can you afford the American fees which could be up to $30,000 per year - financial implications are also important in the choice the university finally makes. :smile:
Reply 9
Kurdt Morello
Unfortunately I dont think one can apply to go on the JD programme - two of the best students each year are picked by the Law faculties of each university to go on the programme based on the quality of their university work, their a-levels and gcses (if required) and their general manner - are they motivated enough to really make a success of themselves abroad and represent the University particularly well. If you get on well with the lecturers and have a reputation as a very hard-working studious degree student and are perceived as a person that is willing to go the extra mile and work the extra hour - you will be picked. And a lot of it is down to luck too + can you afford the American fees which could be up to $30,000 per year - financial implications are also important in the choice the university finally makes. :smile:


My cousin reads law at Kings and he said that it is an application process....he also applied for the program and was a top 3 finalist...unfortunately they only selected 2...
Reply 10
ckwan16
My cousin reads law at Kings and he said that it is an application process....he also applied for the program and was a top 3 finalist...unfortunately they only selected 2...

Ah - i may have been mistaken then :smile: thank you for the information though
Reply 11
Hey... to all those who went to LSE open day back in April, or anybody going there this year, or hell anybody interested, the Law representative Julian Fulbrook said that they're trying to increase the number of places to 9 next year.
Reply 12
thats good news!
Reply 13
Resonance
Hey... to all those who went to LSE open day back in April, or anybody going there this year, or hell anybody interested, the Law representative Julian Fulbrook said that they're trying to increase the number of places to 9 next year.

he was a very accomplished funny speaker from Cambridge wasnt he? when i had an offer last year from LSE ... ah those were the days :smile: 9 places you say?! quite brilliant that such an initiative should be sought - hopefully UCL will follow suit
Reply 14
I imagine they'll do what's in their power. Actually last year when I was in the process of appyling, I wrote to UCL about the program and they said they'd only just done it for the first time so couldn't give me any stats about it, but they said that this year (so people who finish their second year and move onto the JD/ third year in 2004) will hopefully have around 4 places.

When it comes to the 2006 session I would expect they'll have more. 'Cos I'm sure that Columbia sends loads more than 2 students down per year. That said they do have 3 unis to send 'em to.
Reply 15
At the end of the day this whole places thing is only one half of the story, you have to find £20k/year to do this. Even if I had the money I dont think id want to spend that much.
Reply 16
samd294
At the end of the day this whole places thing is only one half of the story, you have to find £20k/year to do this. Even if I had the money I dont think id want to spend that much.


Do you have any idea of how valuable a Columbia law degree is? If you had, I doubt you'd be saying that. Starting salaires for Wall St. firms are $125k+ and becuase you'd have a J.D., you'd be eligable. I wish I were back doing my A-Levels: I'd take this opportunity over Oxbridge or any other course/ university in a heartbeat. It's amazing value, IMO, considering that fees alone at Columbia would be in the region for $80k for a 3yr course.
Reply 17
Vitriol
Do you have any idea of how valuable a Columbia law degree is? If you had, I doubt you'd be saying that. Starting salaires for Wall St. firms are $125k+ and becuase you'd have a J.D., you'd be eligable. I wish I were back doing my A-Levels: I'd take this opportunity over Oxbridge or any other course/ university in a heartbeat. It's amazing value, IMO, considering that fees alone at Columbia would be in the region for $80k for a 3yr course.


And if you dont particuarily want to work at a Wall St/City firm, is it still worth it for the experience?
Reply 18
kingslaw
And if you dont particuarily want to work at a Wall St/City firm, is it still worth it for the experience?



Columbia is good - but an Oxbridge degree in Law followed by an LLM from Harvard would place you in just as good stead. If you dont want to work in the US - then an LLM from Harvard would also be better than a JD.
Reply 19
Well, UCL rejected me, so I didn't get the opportunity. D'oh. But thanks to the heads up on the LLM from Harvard, I'll DEFINITELY be looking in to that one!