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I love capitalism, it a great idea. It brings prosperity and wealth to many, and I get rich from it. It's the only ideology that rewards true hard work. Look at Alan Sugar for example, or Donald Trump and Richard Branson. Anyone can succeed. Those who are lazy and have no ambition stay at the bottom of the social hierarchy, where they belong. The innovative, ambitious and hard working people succeed, and are rightly rewarded.

Study hard, work hard, and you will live an affluent and comfortable life. As how it should be. Refuse to do so, and you aren't, which is just.

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I suppose it is great if everyone has the same starting opportunities but we don't and so it isn't perfect.
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People with rich mummy and daddies.
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I agree it's a far better system than the other ones that have been attempted. To disagree with capitalism is to advocate punishing success and rewarding failure.
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I suppose it is great if everyone has the same starting opportunities but we don't and so it isn't perfect.
Well everyone in the UK has a welfare safety net that includes free education up to the age of 18. There really is no excuse.
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I agree it's a far better system than the other ones that have been attempted. To disagree with capitalism is to advocate punishing success and rewarding failure.
Precisely. True capitalism is really the only ethical ideology we have. At the moment we have a messed up version of capitalist-corporatism.
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Capitalism is the unequal sharing of fortune and blessing
People aren't equal, it's a fact, some people are better and more hard working than others and thereby they deserve more.
I don't even hate snobby rich kids either, if their dad or there great great grand dad has managed to make a fortune then great for them.
I for one would love it if my children could benefit from my hard work.
I'm not saying I'm better than other people either. I'm not from a rich family. Other people work better than I do, but atleast I aspire to be like Alan Sugar etc and hopefully I do make it well, that's all.
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(Original post by the mezzil)
I love capitalism, it a great idea. It brings prosperity and wealth to many, and I get rich from it. It's the only ideology that rewards true hard work. Look at Alan Sugar for example, or Donald Trump and Richard Branson. Anyone can succeed. Those who are lazy and have no ambition stay at the bottom of the social hierarchy, where they belong. The innovative, ambitious and hard working people succeed, and are rightly rewarded.

Study hard, work hard, and you will live an affluent and comfortable life. As how it should be. Refuse to do so, and you aren't, which is just.

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Capitalism does indeed bring wealth and prosperity, but it can also have downsides, some of which are quite evil and therefore should be combatted before it gets out of control. Without Socialism, the evils of capitalism would likely just run amok and there would little accountability. Not everyone can succeed in capitalism. It takes more than just the desire to achieve. You need money to invest in a business, but a successful business takes more than just money. Many businesses do not succeed for one reason or other. Some business succeed down south, but up north it would not succeed. Some businesses are community focused and some are not and are only concerned with profit, sometimes at the detriment to the community. Ambition takes vision, courage and will power, but with all the best intentions ambition will not necessarily guarantee success; it may take some luck (i.e., being in the right place at the right time). Lazyness is not a lack of ambition; just look at the the most wealthiest. They usually do little physical work, but they have the power and money to affect change, sometimes bad and sometimes good. Even those who have no work are not lazy. They may be going through a phase or transition. Everyone goes through phases and transitions, and sometimes that involves stopping and taking a step back and just letting life take you along. To be ambitious all the time requires energy, but it can be destructive and the effects of it can be very cruel, the case of the taskmaster and the slave driver or the workaholic and the slave mentality of the obedient worker, for example.

Capitalism may well be a good idea but some of its effects can be seen throughout the world. Get up on the wrong side of capitalism and it is hell almost tragic in some cases, be a success within it and it can produce rewarding results.
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I don't love it, but it is a very good system

Considering how much stupid teenage lefties blame capitalism for poverty, it's the countries which try to enforce socialism which have the most starving people.
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doesn't work as well as you say, but still works better than anything else
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Well everyone in the UK has a welfare safety net that includes free education up to the age of 18. There really is no excuse.
The UK is not a capitalist country.

It's a social democracy.
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(Original post by the mezzil)
I love capitalism, it a great idea. It brings prosperity and wealth to many, and I get rich from it. It's the only ideology that rewards true hard work. Look at Alan Sugar for example, or Donald Trump and Richard Branson. Anyone can succeed. Those who are lazy and have no ambition stay at the bottom of the social hierarchy, where they belong. The innovative, ambitious and hard working people succeed, and are rightly rewarded.

Study hard, work hard, and you will live an affluent and comfortable life. As how it should be. Refuse to do so, and you aren't, which is just.

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I am the furthest thing away from a socialist but Capitalism in its pure form isn't good for anybody and neither is socialism. A mix of both is good. Who will buy your products/ services when the majority of the population cannot access education, healthcare etc?

Crime will also be very high too and those less well off will attack those better off (Riots, theft etc.) Not exactly a safe environment.
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The UK is not a capitalist country.

It's a social democracy.
I know?
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(Original post by the mezzil)
I love capitalism, it a great idea. It brings prosperity and wealth to many, and I get rich from it. It's the only ideology that rewards true hard work. Look at Alan Sugar for example, or Donald Trump and Richard Branson. Anyone can succeed. Those who are lazy and have no ambition stay at the bottom of the social hierarchy, where they belong. The innovative, ambitious and hard working people succeed, and are rightly rewarded.

Study hard, work hard, and you will live an affluent and comfortable life. As how it should be. Refuse to do so, and you aren't, which is just.

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I have ambition but not i'm not hard working it is unfair. Laziness is a disease.
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I know?
So which one do you prefer ?
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I have ambition but not i'm not hard working it is unfair. Laziness is a disease.
It's a symptom.
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So which one do you prefer ?
I prefer capitalism, but that does not mean I reject things like the welfare sate.
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Well everyone in the UK has a welfare safety net that includes free education up to the age of 18. There really is no excuse.
Education is one thing, but not everyone has parents that will highlight the importance of education to a child. Then there's inheritance. Imagine the number of great ideas that people have had but just haven't capital to take their ideas and make them a reality. Capitalism in its purest form doesn't work but as of yet what we have in the UK is doing ok for now..
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I prefer capitalism, but that does not mean I reject things like the welfare sate.
It's easy to say you prefer capitalism when you live here.. but i would like to see you as a non rich normal guy in a pure capitalistic economy.. The 1% would just screw you over, take away all worker rights, very little taxes for rich, no healthcare, no free higher education.. like the U.S.
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