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What's wrong with Chavs?

I'm from Hong Kong, so I only have an impression of what a Chav is from what I've read on the internet.

From the looks of it, Chavs are rude, arrogant and petty, the slime stuck on the bottom of Britain's shoe. But, I couldn't help wondering, is this a perfect picture of Chavs? I haven't seen a single person stand up for them: Do they really deserve unanimous condemnation?

OK, stereotypes do contain a grain of truth. In the case of Chavs, it seems that the stereotype holds more than a few grains. But really - try to let go of all your prejudices here - there are a few Chavs that are decent people... right? They have chosen to join a group standing for all the wrong things, but some could've just been born in the wrong place, made the wrong friends and strongly influenced to make some wrong choices. Amongst the rabble, there could be a few that followed the wrong crowd, but are honestly nice people just underneath.

Or are Chavs such a lowly bunch that no one with the smallest shred of uprightness would imagine joining.

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Reply 1
Steak Eats You!
I'm from Hong Kong, so I only have an impression of what a Chav is from what I've read on the internet.

From the looks of it, Chavs are rude, arrogant and petty, the slime stuck on the bottom of Britain's shoe. But, I couldn't help wondering, is this a perfect picture of Chavs? I haven't seen a single person stand up for them: Do they really deserve unanimous condemnation?

OK, stereotypes do contain a grain of truth. In the case of Chavs, it seems that the stereotype holds more than a few grains. But really - try to let go of all your prejudices here - there are a few Chavs that are decent people... right? They have chosen to join a group standing for all the wrong things, but some could've just been born in the wrong place, made the wrong friends and strongly influenced to make some wrong choices. Amongst the rabble, there could be a few that followed the wrong crowd, but are honestly nice people just underneath.

Or are Chavs such a lowly bunch that no one with the smallest shred of uprightness would imagine joining.


There are some people who I would at first impressions label a chav from the way they look/dress. Admittedly there are a couple of exceptions as some of them can actually be quite nice and I wouldn't class these as chavs. Chavs to me are the ones that are rude, violent, criminal, and often slutty and substance-abusing. They don't bother with school or jobs, they have babies from the age of 12, they mug people, start fights in the street (I've had to call the police once about a drunken one who kept punching people at the bus station and ended up running in front of cars and buses, and beating up the drivers if they got out), they vandalise and shoplift, they drive dangerously, near me they have started repeated fires on protected heathland which have become really dangerous, and as far as I'm concerned they're just parasites on society. I see no good points about them at all.

Plus, they like really appalling music :smile:

To be honest, if people got into the wrong crowd that's a shame, but if they are a 'nice person' on the inside then they wouldn't do those things and they would get themselves out of it; go to college, get a job, make new friends, whatever. Being in with the wrong crowd does not excuse their behaviour.
what's right with them?
Reply 3
They ruined Burberry. Bastards!!
Chavs are bad because they do bad ****, period!! Should society start revering and celebrating criminals now?! :rolleyes: :smile:


Amongst the rabble, there could be a few that followed the wrong crowd, but are honestly nice people just underneath.


Heh, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Bad actions still are bad actions. :wink:
Reply 5
They're bad news...most of them come from poor backgrounds, some are in illegal trade. Some are most likely racist, and abusive to anybody they think they can bully.

One guy on my course was a chav.,...i didn't prejudge him, but he was pretty annoying when he was on the phone in our group meetings. And then thought he knew something about my religion, and it came out all wrong.

They're just ignorant I guess...
Reply 6
qwerty_st/n
what's right with them?

:five:
Reply 7
Theres nothing wrong with chavs, it's just snobbery. As with most forms of snobbery, they have no basis.
Theres nothing wrong with chavs


Even the ones who abuse others?
^haha :biggrin:

Oops, I didn't make this clear. By Chav, I mean anyone who you would glance at and immediately think "Yup. That's a Chav".

So I'm just suggesting that maybe the entire disgusting set of "Chav-like behaviour" is too quickly fitted on everyone who happens to dress like a Chav.

Shouldn't we be more careful when labelling people? Jumping into the Chav bashing mine train is dangerous, innit?

Of course, if you do see a Chav who both looks and acts like a Chav, he/she deserves all the crap you can throw.
Steak Eats You!
Oops, I didn't make this clear. By Chav, I mean anyone who you would glance at and immediately think "Yup. That's a Chav".

So I'm just suggesting that maybe the entire disgusting set of "Chav-like behaviour" is too quickly fitted on everyone who happens to dress like a Chav.

Shouldn't we be more careful when labelling people? Jumping into the Chav bashing mine train is dangerous, innit?


If someone walks past me in the street dressed like a chav I might think 'hmm' but I won't glare at them or think poisonous thoughts unless I see a group of them acting antisocial or rude, because I know some can be nice.
Esquire
Theres nothing wrong with chavs, it's just snobbery. As with most forms of snobbery, they have no basis.


You're saying there's no basis to not like chavs?
Reply 12
Nothings wrong with them unless the particular person does something to you personally. Like someone said, its just snobbery, something worse than the chav stereotype going around.

Some of my best mates are "chavs" (**** name).
Reply 13
They can be traced back to Beckham, and they like posh loos.
Jim-ie
Nothings wrong with them unless the particular person does something to you personally. Like someone said, its just snobbery, something worse than the chav stereotype going around.

Some of my best mates are "chavs" (**** name).


Oh, so I have no right to get upset about a gang of them setting fire to my local heathland for fun, destroying a lot of protected species in the process. Or to get upset/scared when I'm waiting in a bus station at night and I see one who's drunk going round beating people up. Or to be angry when I see my pretty local area getting covered with graffiti and them filling the forest by my house with litter.

You people who call it snobbery obviously live in an area which is nothing like mine.

Do your best mates act like that? If not I wouldn't call them chavs.
Jim-ie
Nothings wrong with them unless the particular person does something to you personally. Like someone said, its just snobbery, something worse than the chav stereotype going around.

Some of my best mates are "chavs" (**** name).


Yeah like I have to agree we see this a hell of a lot in Northern Ireland what you describe as chav culture and its day to day life for us sure just go to the likes of the holylands on a Friday,Saturday - sure go any night of the week and see people playing football at like 5am in the morning and wrecking the place, we don't remark on it however they do not wear burberry thankfully! It's just something for people who believe they are of a higher stature than others to make fun of .i.e the branding of people as Chavs.... Just because they don't dress the same as other people and listen to different music etc doesn't necessarily make them Chavs, they just live to a different culture which is situated where they live and none of it is their fault. They grew up with it - now they are living it.
aren't alot of chavs like when they get a partner they say oh i wanna marry you after like 5 minutes.
I hate the way "chav" as a label is thrown about now, but it IS part of Englands culture for the moment so we must lump it.

I don't think the chav situation should be judged by what they wear but rather as the way they behave... I got called chavvy by a few of my old friends, because I had decided not to wear black hoodies and jeans in the summer.... oh and I had burberry perfume! :dontknow:
I think a lot of chavs are born into poor backgrounds and hang around with the wrong sort of people. Their parents don't give a damn about them or what they are up to. A lot probably can’t see a better future for themselves so end up the way they are.

Anyway, here is a list of things wrong with chavs:-

-They are very rude and very intimidating.
-A lot of them are on drugs or deal them.
-They start fights in town on nights out too.
-They vandalise things and make areas scruffy
-They shop lift and are always in trouble with the law
-A lot have kids in their teens because they are too stupid to use contraception. Therefore probably carry all sorts of STI's too.
-They don't work and live off benefits
-They try and have as many kids as possible so they can get many benefits and a free council house. Tax payers, pay taxes to keep them, which is wrong. They are parasites.

Watch the Jeremy Kyle Show, then a lot of these become clear. Most people who go on the show are chavs.
Bubblebee
I hate the way "chav" as a label is thrown about now, but it IS part of Englands culture for the moment so we must lump it.

I don't think the chav situation should be judged by what they wear but rather as the way they behave... I got called chavvy by a few of my old friends, because I had decided not to wear black hoodies and jeans in the summer.... oh and I had burberry perfume! :dontknow:


See now that is what I don't agree with :smile: I won't call someone a chav unless they act that way. I might not like the fashion, but hey there's a lot of fashion I don't like, so I'm not going to make a fuss about it :p: People don't bother me unless they start behaving in a way that has a negative effect on other people/the local area/community. I can't see how that stance could be portrayed as snobbery.