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I'm quite worried as I want to do Anthropology and Psychology at Uni, yet so far all I've found is Durham, Exeter and St Andrews that do it in the Russell Group - all of which are very competitive. It's likely I'll get AAA at a level, maybe A*AA however I'm scared of limiting myself to three unis in case I don't get offers.
Obviously you can only write one personal statement so it's not as if I can apply to different courses.
Would any of you advise me to take my chances, applying to those unis and another two not so good unis in the hope that I get accepted by Exeter/Durham/St Andrews? I don't know what other course I'd like to do as I want to transfer to Law after my degree!
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I'm quite worried as I want to do Anthropology and Psychology at Uni, yet so far all I've found is Durham, Exeter and St Andrews that do it in the Russell Group - all of which are very competitive. It's likely I'll get AAA at a level, maybe A*AA however I'm scared of limiting myself to three unis in case I don't get offers.
Obviously you can only write one personal statement so it's not as if I can apply to different courses.
Would any of you advise me to take my chances, applying to those unis and another two not so good unis in the hope that I get accepted by Exeter/Durham/St Andrews? I don't know what other course I'd like to do as I want to transfer to Law after my degree!
I was in a similar situation. I applied for Biological/Evolutionary Anthropology, which only a few universities do. What I did was applied for similar courses in the last couple of spaces, such as Bioarchaeology. It may be more difficult for you though as not many courses are very similar! Strangely enough, I would have been in your exact position, I've changed to a degree in biology and history which is offered in one or two universities.

If you'd rather not do that, then just apply for those 3 and 2 'weaker' universities. There's nothing wrong with that and it seems like you'll be a strong candidate plus, it's generally advised to apply to universities with lower requirements regardless of the course, just to act as a safety net in case things don't go as planned.

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When I say "not so good Unis" I mean Unis that I haven't heard of. Not being snobby they just require lowish entry grades
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I was in a similar situation. I applied for Biological/Evolutionary Anthropology, which only a few universities do. What I did was applied for similar courses in the last couple of spaces, such as Bioarchaeology. It may be more difficult for you though as not many courses are very similar! Strangely enough, I would have been in your exact position, I've changed to a degree in biology and history which is offered in one or two universities.

If you'd rather not do that, then just apply for those 3 and 2 'weaker' universities. There's nothing wrong with that and it seems like you'll be a strong candidate plus, it's generally advised to apply to universities with lower requirements regardless of the course, just to act as a safety net in case things don't go as planned.

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Thanks for the advice, that was really helpful! I was thinking of applying for sociology and psychology too - however that would limit me to actually using the term Anthropology in my PS. How did you come across this?
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When I say "not so good Unis" I mean Unis that I haven't heard of. Not being snobby they just require lowish entry grades
Well through a quick browse it appears Brunel do it as well, who are part of the University of London and a pretty good Uni. Same goes for the university of Kent, another good Uni. Aberdeen do it and they are also a good uni.

So it seems yes you are being snobby!
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Thanks for the advice, that was really helpful! I was thinking of applying for sociology and psychology too - however that would limit me to actually using the term Anthropology in my PS. How did you come across this?
It's okay to be honest, I think that'd be absolutely fine, as with social anthropology, it fits in quite well. I'd mention both sociology and anthropology, just link them, which I don't think will too challenging as they cross over in a few ways :yep: to be fair, my personal statement was pretty much tailored to evolutionary anthropology, yet I still managed to get a offers from Durham/Exeter whose courses aren't very similar to Liverpool's, so I don't think it'll be too much of an issue Hopefully the universities appreciate that some courses are very unique!

My friend applied for 4 English Literature based courses, and 1 Biology and Psychology course, she got all of her offers with one personal statement, so it can be done!

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It's okay to be honest, I think that'd be absolutely fine, as with social anthropology, it fits in quite well. I'd mention both sociology and anthropology, just link them, which I don't think will too challenging as they cross over in a few ways :yep: to be fair, my personal statement was pretty much tailored to evolutionary anthropology, yet I still managed to get a offers from Durham/Exeter whose courses aren't very similar to Liverpool's, so I don't think it'll be too much of an issue Hopefully the universities appreciate that some courses are very unique!

My friend applied for 4 English Literature based courses, and 1 Biology and Psychology course, she got all of her offers with one personal statement, so it can be done!

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Thank you so much for your help, that's brilliant!!
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Well through a quick browse it appears Brunel do it as well, who are part of the University of London and a pretty good Uni. Same goes for the university of Kent, another good Uni. Aberdeen do it and they are also a good uni.

So it seems yes you are being snobby!
I'm not being snobby. If I'm capable of A*AA it seems pointless of applying to a place that wants BBB?
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Well through a quick browse it appears Brunel do it as well, who are part of the University of London and a pretty good Uni. Same goes for the university of Kent, another good Uni. Aberdeen do it and they are also a good uni.

So it seems yes you are being snobby!
Brunel is not apart of University of London.
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Brunel is not apart of University of London.
Sorry my bad, still not a bad Uni though.
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I'm not being snobby. If I'm capable of A*AA it seems pointless of applying to a place that wants BBB?
No it doesn't. All my offers were ABB. I got AAA (would have been 2 A*s and an A if they'd existed) Entry requirements don't really reflect the quality of the course and they are clearly insurances in case something goes wrong!
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Remember that Scottish unis are more flexible with their subjects - you gradually specialise. Therefore if other Scottish unis do Anthropology, you should be able to take modules from that department if you go for psychology, or vice versa
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I'm quite worried as I want to do Anthropology and Psychology at Uni, yet so far all I've found is Durham, Exeter and St Andrews that do it in the Russell Group - all of which are very competitive. It's likely I'll get AAA at a level, maybe A*AA however I'm scared of limiting myself to three unis in case I don't get offers.
Obviously you can only write one personal statement so it's not as if I can apply to different courses.
Would any of you advise me to take my chances, applying to those unis and another two not so good unis in the hope that I get accepted by Exeter/Durham/St Andrews? I don't know what other course I'd like to do as I want to transfer to Law after my degree!
Hi there, Just to say it's possible to take joint Psychology and Anthropology at Cambridge under the new PBS tripos.
In first year you would take:
-PBS1: Psychology
-PBS2: Psych Enquiry and Methods
-SAN1: Social Anthropology
-BAN1: Biological Anthropology

Or you could change SAN1/BAN1 to anything else PBS offers eg. Politics, Sociology, Evolution and Behaviour etc.

In y2 you could take:
- PBS3: Social and Developmental Psychology
- PBS4: Biological and Cognitive Psychology (+ 2 options) or
- PBS 5 Experimental Psychology + PBS 6: A Research Project + 1 Option.

So if you took PBS3 and PBS4 you would be left with 2 options,
The Anthropology options in y2 are:
- Anthropology of Development (Soc Anth)
- Anthropology of Science and Society (Soc Anth)
- Behavioural Ecology (Bio Anth)
- Anthropology of Health and Disease (Bio Anth)
- Human Origins (Bio Anth)

Like in y1 other y2 options are available from the history and philosophy of science to neurobiology and Social Theory, Globalisation and Education etc.

In y3 you would do a Research Project and then take 3 optional papers, 1 of which has to be Development and Psychopathology if you didn't do the Experimental Paper in y2. Then you would have 2 options, Biological and Social Anthropology are planed to be offered

I know its another A*AA course, but I just thought you shouldnt rule it out as PBS is so wonderfully diverse that it offers the opportunity to join psychology and anthropology together in an equal weighting.
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I'm quite worried as I want to do Anthropology and Psychology at Uni, yet so far all I've found is Durham, Exeter and St Andrews that do it in the Russell Group - all of which are very competitive. It's likely I'll get AAA at a level, maybe A*AA however I'm scared of limiting myself to three unis in case I don't get offers.
Obviously you can only write one personal statement so it's not as if I can apply to different courses.
Would any of you advise me to take my chances, applying to those unis and another two not so good unis in the hope that I get accepted by Exeter/Durham/St Andrews? I don't know what other course I'd like to do as I want to transfer to Law after my degree!
I just want to mirror what changing skies suggested, why not sociology and psychology? Anthropology is a branch of sociology although I agree more interesting, perhaps check the module choices for each university so that you could gain more of an anthropology perspective?
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I just want to mirror what changing skies suggested, why not sociology and psychology? Anthropology is a branch of sociology although I agree more interesting, perhaps check the module choices for each university so that you could gain more of an anthropology perspective?
Anthropology is not a branch of sociology, they are very very different in approach and aims....I would be really careful as there is a big difference!
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Anthropology is not a branch of sociology, they are very very different in approach and aims....I would be really careful as there is a big difference!
I study sociology and have had modules in anthropology, anthropology is a form of sociology. Sociology is studied in many different ways including qualitative ethnographic case studies, similar to anthropology. Yes anthropology is now seen as it's own distinct subject does not mean that it wasn't originally a branch of sociology and is often offered as part of a sociology degree. Which is precisely what I said.
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Anthropology is not a branch of sociology, they are very very different in approach and aims....I would be really careful as there is a big difference!
Pretty similar to criminology which is also offered via modules at my university, it is it's own subject but it is also a branch of sociology.
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I study sociology and have had modules in anthropology, anthropology is a form of sociology. Sociology is studied in many different ways including qualitative ethnographic case studies, similar to anthropology. Yes anthropology is now seen as it's own distinct subject does not mean that it wasn't originally a branch of sociology and is often offered as part of a sociology degree. Which is precisely what I said.
I equally study both of these subjects at University. Anthropology was never originally part of sociology, i struggle to see where you have come to that conclusion.

Social Anthropology and Sociology may in their traditional sense have developed from some of the same base theories, yet this does not mean anthropology is a derivative or a branch of sociology.

The fact that there are shared methods really doesn't help your claim to anthropologies branching of from sociology. Mathematical modelling is used in Biology, Economics and Physics. Yet we would not argue that Economics is a derivative of the study of Physics, surely?!

I think it is also rather clear that current sociology has taken anthropologies ethnographic approach, which in the modern sense started with Malinowski, and not the other way round. Marx, Durkheim and Weber, the three main founders of social theory were not ethnographers, nor did they see the need for this interpretative approach, they were far more concerned with the analysis of data, the application of scientific methods to sociology and the progression of history and ideology. Social Anthropology does not try to be a science, its whole premise is interpretation and viewpoint with regards to the theoretical framework the ethnographer holds e.g.. Structuralism vs Functionalism.

Anthropological modules may be taken in a sociology degree, as can History modules often be taken in English degrees! I think there is a hugeeeeee distinction to be made between the subjects and that is the main point here - not the origins of the subjects, although I would contest that anthropology stems from sociology. Ignoring the classical periods of so called 'ethnographic evidence', if anything anthropology is more likley to have derived from history, e.g. Gerald of Wales was a historian, who not knowingly used ethnographic fieldwork to inform his historical writings, which the foundations of sociological theory did not.
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I equally study both of these subjects at University. Anthropology was never originally part of sociology, i struggle to see where you have come to that conclusion.

Social Anthropology and Sociology may in their traditional sense have developed from some of the same base theories, yet this does not mean anthropology is a derivative or a branch of sociology.

The fact that there are shared methods really doesn't help your claim to anthropologies branching of from sociology. Mathematical modelling is used in Biology, Economics and Physics. Yet we would not argue that Economics is a derivative of the study of Physics, surely?!

I think it is also rather clear that current sociology has taken anthropologies ethnographic approach, which in the modern sense started with Malinowski, and not the other way round. Marx, Durkheim and Weber, the three main founders of social theory were not ethnographers, nor did they see the need for this interpretative approach, they were far more concerned with the analysis of data, the application of scientific methods to sociology and the progression of history and ideology. Social Anthropology does not try to be a science, its whole premise is interpretation and viewpoint with regards to the theoretical framework the ethnographer holds e.g.. Structuralism vs Functionalism.

Anthropological modules may be taken in a sociology degree, as can History modules often be taken in English degrees! I think there is a hugeeeeee distinction to be made between the subjects and that is the main point here - not the origins of the subjects, although I would contest that anthropology stems from sociology. Ignoring the classical periods of so called 'ethnographic evidence', if anything anthropology is more likley to have derived from history, e.g. Gerald of Wales was a historian, who not knowingly used ethnographic fieldwork to inform his historical writings, which the foundations of sociological theory did not.
Which is precisely why I suggested it to OP as an alternative to Sociology. I said they are different disciplines. Bringing up Marx/weber/Durkheim does not mean anything they are the founding fathers but they don't inform every type of sociology.

I said to the OP she could check the module choices at the university to make sure that she could take a more anthropological based approach to her studies. Sociology and anthropology both study societies however anthropology takes more of a historical/cross cultural/biological approach. For OP it makes perfect sense to advice sociology as an alternative as long as it offers anthropology modules.

You are being pedantic for the sake of it my last post clearly said anthropology came from sociology but is now it's own discipline and then you repeated that assertion in a convoluted way just to be argumentative when it makes no difference to OP because the advice is still valid.
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