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I am sick of being told by people that I have to respect their opinions or the opinions of others, no matter what those opinions may be. I think we should draw a distinction between respecting someones right to an opinion, and respecting the opinion itself.
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
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I don't respect many people's beliefs, but I hold my tongue.
People need to work out things for themselves. And if we value a society of freedom of expression, religion and speech, then that is the consequence of it.
People need to work out things for themselves. And if we value a society of freedom of expression, religion and speech, then that is the consequence of it.
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I generally try not to **** on other people's beliefs, but I'm allowed to think that they're idiots.
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(Original post by the_lost_boy)
I generally try not to sh*t on other people's beliefs, but I'm allowed to think that they're idiots.
I generally try not to sh*t on other people's beliefs, but I'm allowed to think that they're idiots.
Couldn't refrain.
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I generally try not to sh*t on other people's beliefs, but I'm allowed to think that they're idiots.
I generally try not to sh*t on other people's beliefs, but I'm allowed to think that they're idiots.
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(Original post by arcturus7)
I am sick of being told by people that I have to respect their opinions or the opinions of others, no matter what those opinions may be. I think we should draw a distinction between respecting someones right to an opinion, and respecting the opinion itself.
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
I am sick of being told by people that I have to respect their opinions or the opinions of others, no matter what those opinions may be. I think we should draw a distinction between respecting someones right to an opinion, and respecting the opinion itself.
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
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(Original post by arcturus7)
I am sick of being told by people that I have to respect their opinions or the opinions of others, no matter what those opinions may be. I think we should draw a distinction between respecting someones right to an opinion, and respecting the opinion itself.
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
I am sick of being told by people that I have to respect their opinions or the opinions of others, no matter what those opinions may be. I think we should draw a distinction between respecting someones right to an opinion, and respecting the opinion itself.
I believe that everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, whether this be politically, religiously, socially etc, no matter what those opinions may be. However, just because I respect your right to believe something, I don't respect the vast majority of said beliefs.
For example, I have absolutely no respect for the New Earth Creationist view of the universe; it is demonstrably incorrect and I feel that exposing children or impressionable people to it undermines the whole point of educating them. In fact, I don't have any respect for any claims which are provably wrong, and I have varying degrees of respect for things which are as yet inconclusive, generally depending on the strength of any proof available.
I have no respect for ideas such as homophobia, racism, and sexism, but I respect people's right to hold such beliefs. I think people are also free to express these opinions, but they need to realise that people are free to disagree and are welcome to criticize and question them, and more over they aren't forced to actually respect anything you think.
What do you guys think? Do you respect all beliefs, or just the right of people to hold them?
Tbh i have not read yor long post but in my opinion you should respect peoples beliefs evn if they are wrong full stop
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What I believe is 'live and let live'. Does not matter if you agree with their beliefs or not but they have as much as right as you to have any such set of beliefs.
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(Original post by German123)
Tbh i have not read yor long post but in my opinion you should respect peoples beliefs evn if they are wrong full stop
Tbh i have not read yor long post but in my opinion you should respect peoples beliefs evn if they are wrong full stop
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Respecting someone's beliefs and accepting or agreeing with them are completely different things.
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No. People who hold ignorant or repugnant views should be politely ridiculed at every available opportunity. This particularly applies to religious people.
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Defiently don't have to respect all people's belief. However, as long as their view is not harming anyone in any way, I don't say anything.
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(Original post by German123)
Tbh i have not read yor long post but in my opinion you should respect peoples beliefs evn if they are wrong full stop
Tbh i have not read yor long post but in my opinion you should respect peoples beliefs evn if they are wrong full stop
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People don't have to agree on everything. But you must be civil. Or just keep quiet and avoid discussing anything which might lead to an argument or disagreement.
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Yes you should always respect peoples beliefs full stop
Yes you should always respect peoples beliefs full stop
So do you respect the idea that homosexuals should be stoned and are all going to hell? Or the idea that evolution is a myth, alongside climate change and myriad other theories?
Actually read the post before you comment please, it doesn't help the discussion.
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What I believe is 'live and let live'. Does not matter if you agree with their beliefs or not but they have as much as right as you to have any such set of beliefs.
What I believe is 'live and let live'. Does not matter if you agree with their beliefs or not but they have as much as right as you to have any such set of beliefs.
I agree to a degree, but what about if their views or opinions are damaging or even bordering on hate speech? They deserve to be challenged so that the world can be better for others.
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People don't have to agree on everything. But you must be civil. Or just keep quiet and avoid discussing anything which might lead to an argument or disagreement.
People don't have to agree on everything. But you must be civil. Or just keep quiet and avoid discussing anything which might lead to an argument or disagreement.
So we shouldn't debate ideas for risk of offending people? If I have the right to hold my opinions and the right of free speech, surely these entail the right to express them and potentially the right to offend people?
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(Original post by arcturus7)
So we shouldn't debate ideas for risk of offending people? If I have the right to hold my opinions and the right of free speech, surely these entail the right to express them and potentially the right to offend people?[/FONT][/COLOR]
So we shouldn't debate ideas for risk of offending people? If I have the right to hold my opinions and the right of free speech, surely these entail the right to express them and potentially the right to offend people?[/FONT][/COLOR]
Everyone has the right to their opinion, it's a free society. But even when you know someone is completely wrong, there's no point in raising a discussion. You just have to look the other way, live your life the way you want and be proud of your views.
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As far as I'm concerned a duty to 'respect' people's beliefs only means a duty not to try and stop them holding those beliefs. Doesn't mean you have to agree with them in the slightest, and it certainly doesn't mean you have to sit idly by while they go and inflict the negative consequences of those beliefs on other people.
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You don't have to agree with other people's beliefs, but you should always respect them!! As idiotic as they may seem, always respect people! 
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