Manchester City fined for next season?

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samiz20891
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SSN Sources saying Manchester City to be fined £50m & have Champions League squad restricted to 21 players for next season.
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Good start.

1)What happens if they continue to breach the rules?
2)Why havent Chelsea been done as well?
3)What happens to the money?
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Is this a joke?

Governing body punishes football club with unlimited money by fining them.

Guess something needs to finance Platini's bonus.
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(Original post by rockrunride)
Is this a joke?

Governing body punishes football club with unlimited money by fining them.

Guess something needs to finance Platini's bonus.
First investigation though.

What happens if they breach the rules next time?
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Given their seemingly imminent lifting of the Premier League trophy, 50 million will make next to no difference to next seasons budget.

I also assume it'll be overturned as soon as City contest the charges..
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won't have an effect.
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(Original post by Zürich)
Good start.

1)What happens if they continue to breach the rules?
2)Why havent Chelsea been done as well?
3)What happens to the money?
Chelsea haven't broken the rules, you are allowed to make a 45mil loss in the first 3 years which they haven't

If they breach the rules again I'm sure they will get a stricter punishment until eventually they get kicked out

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2)Why havent Chelsea been done as well?
Chelsea were within the margins of the rules despite bleeding close to £50m last year. Interestingly, this was before selling Mata and KDB for near £60m during the January transfer window.

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25564078
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First investigation though.

What happens if they breach the rules next time?
They'll get another fine that they probably won't have to pay, and if they do, it'll barely have an effect on their position.

I really don't get it. The Football League heavily punishes member clubs for breaching financial rules, which often results in their liquidation.
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People forget they still have to fill their home grown quota for that 21 man squad. They just can't use their Etihad money to pay the fine because it because of that sponsorship money irregularity that got them this fine
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(Original post by rockrunride)
They'll get another fine that they probably won't have to pay, and if they do, it'll barely have an effect on their position.

I really don't get it. The Football League heavily punishes member clubs for breaching financial rules, which often results in their liquidation.
Because they're easily replaced. Barcelona and Real Madrid aren't.
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What a farce. FFP is essentially a U€FA tax.
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People forget they still have to fill their home grown quota for that 21 man squad. They just can't use their Etihad money to pay the fine because it because of that sponsorship money irregularity that got them this fine
So they need 8 home grown players in that Champions League squad. IIRC I think there homegrown players at the start of the season were: Boyata, Richards, Wright, Clichy, Lescott, Milner, Rodwell and Nimely. I wonder how many of those will even be at Man city next year, let alone be good enough for a 21-man champions league squad.
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Because they're easily replaced. Barcelona and Real Madrid aren't.
The situation is worse in Spain than here. Lower league clubs are the essence of football culture in this country. Would you get 20k at a third tier game in Spain? No. The population of the town's third tier football club would be divided over Real and Barça, with everyone piling into the bars watching 'El Clásico' take place 400 miles away whilst the local team labours with an attendance of 1,000. Financial mismanagement of a lower league club in Spain would see it go forever. It'd be more fortunate here with fans taking the remains of their club (and livelihood) and rebuilding it from scratch.

That would never happen to Real or Barça though. If you're implying that bigger clubs deserve greater protection, then look no further than Rangers. Their 'replacement' will be back winning the Scottish Premiership within two years.

It's not to say it's ever desirable to see your club go under, but I wouldn't shed a single tear over it happening to a 'big' club other than my own. They will survive because of their size.
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Would you get 20k at a third tier game in Spain? No. The population of the town's third tier football club would be divided over Real and Barça, with everyone piling into the bars watching 'El Clásico' take place 400 miles away whilst the local team labours with an attendance of 1,000.
Exactly here are some stats that demonstrate this.
I found some stats for la liga adelante(2nd division) for last season
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Liga Adelante
No. Club Average Games vs '12 Highest
1 Real Sporting Gijón 15.719 21 -27,4% 20.000
2 Elche CF 14.953 21 72,4% 33.318
3 UD Las Palmas 12.026 21 25,1% 23.985
4 Villarreal CF 10.601 21 -38,6% 25.000
5 Córdoba CF 9.588 21 -0,2% 18.375
6 Real RC Santander 9.029 21 -24,0% 14.995
7 UD Almería 7.709 21 15,8% 12.927
8 Real Murcia CF 7.400 21 -8,8% 13.882
9 Hércules CF Alicante 7.336 21 -23,6% 11.000
10 SD Ponferradina 6.317 21 NEW 8.500
11 Girona FC 5.933 21 16,7% 9.573
12 FC Barcelona Athlètic 5.448 21 104,3% 15.000
13 RC Recreativo de Huelva 4.918 21 -11,0% 6.500
14 CD Mirandés 4.685 21 NEW 5.500
15 Xérez CD 4.570 21 -33,0% 6.474
16 CD Lugo 3.924 21 NEW 6.000
17 CE Sabadell FC 3.420 21 -24,6% 6.420
18 AD Alcorcón 3.232 21 15,2% 4.800
19 CD Guadalajara 3.229 21 -8,0% 5.000
20 SD Huesca 3.190 21 1,1% 5.000
21 Real Madrid Castilla CF 3.062 21 NEW 7.000
22 CD Numancia de Soria 2.926 21 -12,7% 3.504
. Total 6.783 -3,5% 33.318

So only an average of 6,783 people per match in this division compared to 17,488 people per match in the championship. We could go even further and look at NPower league 1(third division) and this has an average of 6,319 people per match so only just under 400 people per match less.

Championship last season
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NPower Championship
No. Club Average Games vs '12 Highest
1 Brighton & Hove Albion AFC 26.236 23 31,0% 30.003
2 Sheffield Wednesday FC 24.078 23 12,9% 31.375
3 Derby County FC 23.228 23 -10,7% 33.010
4 Nottingham Forest FC 23.082 23 5,1% 28.707
5 Cardiff City FC 22.999 23 4,1% 26.588
6 Leicester City FC 22.283 23 -3,3% 25.913
7 Wolverhampton Wanderers 21.773 23 -15,2% 28.595
8 Leeds United FC 21.572 23 -7,4% 25.532
9 Charlton Athletic 18.499 23 6,3% 26.185
10 Bolton Wanderers FC 18.034 23 -23,8% 24.844
11 Ipswich Town FC 17.526 23 -4,1% 21.988
12 Hull City AFC 17.369 23 -7,6% 23.812
13 Crystal Palace FC 16.933 23 11,3% 22.154
14 Middlesbrough FC 16.794 23 -4,3% 28.229
15 Birmingham City FC 16.703 23 -11,5% 19.630
16 Blackburn Rovers FC 14.997 23 -33,5% 20.735
17 Huddersfield Town 14.978 23 5,9% 21.614
18 Blackpool FC 13.917 23 9,0% 15.907
19 Watford FC 13.454 23 5,9% 16.968
20 Bristol City FC 13.348 23 -3,6% 19.148
21 Burnley FC 12.928 23 -8,0% 21.341
22 Millwall 10.559 23 -8,1% 18.013
23 Barnsley FC 10.207 23 -1,2% 15.744
24 Peterborough United FC 8.215 23 -9,8% 13.938
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17.488 -1,4% 33.010


NPower League One
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No. Club Average Games vs '12 Highest
1 Sheffield United FC 18.177 23 -2,8% 23.431
2 Portsmouth FC 12.232 23 -18,5% 18.433
3 Coventry City FC 10.997 23 -27,3% 15.185
4 Preston North End FC 9.263 23 -21,6% 12.014
5 Swindon Town FC 8.963 23 6,6% 18.299
6 Milton Keynes Dons 8.612 23 -0,5% 13.620
7 Doncaster Rovers FC 7.239 23 -22,5% 12.785
8 AFC Bournemouth 6.852 23 16,5% 9.135
9 Brentford FC 6.303 23 11,7% 12.300
10 Tranmere Rovers 6.196 23 20,8% 10.587
11 Shrewsbury Town FC 5.736 23 -0,6% 8.021
12 Notts County 5.522 23 -18,9% 7.608
13 Crewe Alexandra FC 4.903 23 18,9% 6.547
14 Carlisle United FC 4.302 23 -18,0% 5.965
15 Walsall FC 4.234 23 -0,9% 7.504
16 Oldham Athletic AFC 4.129 23 -6,9% 6.426
17 Yeovil Town FC 4.072 23 2,2% 6.006
18 Leyton Orient FC 4.002 23 -6,9% 5.191
19 Hartlepool United FC 3.613 23 -27,2% 4.474
20 Colchester United FC 3.530 23 -8,7% 5.862
21 Scunthorpe United FC 3.465 23 -20,2% 6.020
22 Crawley Town FC 3.408 23 4,7% 5.058
23 Stevenage FC 3.170 23 -10,9% 4.518
24 Bury 2.749 23 -22,6% 5.213
. Total 6.319 -14,3% 23.431
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All the while there's rampant racism all over European football.

UEFA have just decided they'll harness all your jealousy and line their own pockets with Arab billions. Adding yet another incentive to milking fans dry.

Makes you all look foolish, because the City machine will go marching on and on and on.
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So City get fined for putting too much money IN, yet the Glazers aren't for taking too much money OUT?
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