Queen's University Belfast SU vote to ban the sale of poppies

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27303914

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...ends#idc-cover

"A motion proposing a ban on the sale of poppies within the Students' Union at Queen's University will come before the university's student council later.

The council comprises about 100 students from across different faculties and years of study.

The motion noted that the poppy appeal "is a politically charged and necessarily divisive initiative, given the nature of local politics".

It added that the students' union was an inclusive and neutral space.

"Therefore (the students' union) must offer a politically neutral environment regarding issues of the past to avoid offence and a sense of exclusion," it said.

The annual poppy appeal is organised by the Royal British Legion, a charity which raises funds for armed forces and their families."

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As a student at QUB I'm pretty disgusted by this even being brought forward. People from both sides of the community died for our today, so I can't even attempt to understand this ridiculous motion. I feel nothing but shame and embarrassment regarding this.

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EDIT: VOTED AGAINST!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-30254369.html
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I want to know what sort of idiot thinks that a poppy is somehow a political symbol. It's a symbol of respect which goes beyond politics.
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I think it is highly insensitive for them to stop selling poppies. Will the desecration of the statue in front be the next move?
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Funny,,,Im sitting here watching battle of Kursk between the Russians and the Germans..It was the biggest and probably most decisive battle of ww2.It demonstrates however the forces the allies were faced with,Ordinary men from all over the world including all of Ireland and including my father in the RAF.So now its somehow ok ,,,enough time it seems has passed to forget these men that fought not against gutless terrorist or assassins but the might of the axis powers...Maybe they should stop selling them in the SU,These men would not wish to be remembered in a place such as this.
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Absolutely ridiculous...I had no idea that the view was that poppies were representative of one political side.

I completely agree with striving to ensure Northern Ireland is a place which is equal for both Protestants, Catholics & others... but banning the selling of a poppy which shows respect not only for fallen British soldiers but soldiers around the world in case of "offending someone" is just like going back in time.

I am someone who spends a lot of time around the QUB campus as my dad is student, and it is lovely, inclusive and multi-cultural...but today I've lost a little bit of respect for the S.U.
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(Original post by RFowler)
I want to know what sort of idiot thinks that a poppy is somehow a political symbol. It's a symbol of respect which goes beyond politics.
The motion was brought forward by a 'student and Sinn Fein activist'. Take from that what you will. The vote has already gathered a lot of controversy here, I'll update the thread once I know if it was voted down or not.
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(Original post by snailsareslimy)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27303914

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...ends#idc-cover

"A motion proposing a ban on the sale of poppies within the Students' Union at Queen's University will come before the university's student council later.

The council comprises about 100 students from across different faculties and years of study.

The motion noted that the poppy appeal "is a politically charged and necessarily divisive initiative, given the nature of local politics".

It added that the students' union was an inclusive and neutral space.

"Therefore (the students' union) must offer a politically neutral environment regarding issues of the past to avoid offence and a sense of exclusion," it said.

The annual poppy appeal is organised by the Royal British Legion, a charity which raises funds for armed forces and their families."

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As a student at QUB I'm pretty disgusted by this even being brought forward. People from both sides of the community died for our today, so I can't even attempt to understand this ridiculous motion. I feel nothing but shame and embarrassment regarding this.

Discuss.
Student unions.

Where middle class failures eek out one more year before they have to pay their own way.

49,500 Irishmen have their lives in WW1

3,600 Irishmen died in WW2.
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This is typical, bolshy student behaviour, don't get too worked up over it.
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oh boy...
it's blurred lines again
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(Original post by snailsareslimy)
The motion was brought forward by a 'student and Sinn Fein activist'. Take from that what you will. The vote has already gathered a lot of controversy here, I'll update the thread once I know if it was voted down or not.
From the BBC website:

A motion proposing a ban on the sale of poppies within the Students' Union at Queen's University has been defeated.

The university's student council, that comprises about 100 students from across different faculties and years of study, debated the motion on Wednesday.

It was defeated by 40 votes to 15.
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Last year the Republic of Ireland officially apologised to the Irishmen who left to fight in British uniform in WW2 and were discriminated against when they came home.

Why are these idiots so desperate to wind the clock back?

Margaret Ritchie managed to wear a poppy in 2010 while leader of the SDLP and as far as I'm aware she didn't suddenly become a unionist the moment the poppy touched her coat.
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(Original post by Drewski)
From the BBC website:

A motion proposing a ban on the sale of poppies within the Students' Union at Queen's University has been defeated.

The university's student council, that comprises about 100 students from across different faculties and years of study, debated the motion on Wednesday.

It was defeated by 40 votes to 15.
I just saw on Facebook, I'm so pleased


(Original post by flugelr)
Last year the Republic of Ireland officially apologised to the Irishmen who left to fight in British uniform in WW2 and were discriminated against when they came home.

Why are these idiots so desperate to wind the clock back?

Margaret Ritchie managed to wear a poppy in 2010 while leader of the SDLP and as far as I'm aware she didn't suddenly become a unionist the moment the poppy touched her coat.
I really don't understand it, tbh. It's a simple matter of respect; respect for everyone who paid with their lives for our freedom. Religious background, ethnicity etc just doesn't come into it. Very glad it's been defeated, anyway.
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