Do you consider UKIP good or bad?

UKIP only really hates Muslims though. That's something a huge number of Non-Muslim Indians support them over as well. I think people forget that UKIP has Indian supporters too.

I think the fact UKIP is opposed to the European Declaration of Human Rights is a good enough reason for it to be a bad party. Fundamental human rights should not be put aside just because a few goons are scape-goating..

Brexit voters will be wishing they were still significant, we are all going to be more or less still part of the EU. Being shafted, but knew we would be anyway.

UKIP are bad because:

1) They wish to remove the UK from the jurisdiction of the EU court of human rights. You heard me, UKIP wants the UK not to have to abide by laws that protect fundamental human rights and freedoms.

2) 'No to political correctness'- basically they'd like to create a platform where racist/homophobic/islamaphobic statements are no longer frowned upon. They say PC stifles free speech, I say not having it segregates society.

3) Their entire immigration policy is based on fear and intolerance. 'Immigrants put pressure on the healthcare system'- Nope, the elderly put pressure on the healthcare system and arguably, the NHS wouldn't function without immigrants.- this is one example, there's many more but I'm not really in the mood to list every single one.

4) Their policies are based on idealisms, not realisms. They want lower taxes but more police on the streets, improved roads. Fair enough- but where's that money going to come from?

5) Their immigration policy will see an increase in homelessness and crimes committed by immigrants. 'Immigrants must financially support themselves for 5 years before receiving state help'. Example: A migrant worker works in the UK for 2 years, brings his family here, things are looking good. Company he works for gets made redundant, can no longer afford things, is not entitled to benefits or any state help. Begins stealing to provide for his family.


Just a few I can think of off the top of my head

Were they significant in 2014 when the OP asked the question....?

I can see the UKIP popularity start to rise again . Six murders in london again this last few days shows how toxic a culture we have created for ourselves over the last 40 years and it's not getting any better . Until we stop immigration and stop knife crime then this country will continue to slide down a very slippery slope . The policing bill and NHS bill is being stretched by some of the vermin that are the perpetrators of this type of crime. It's a disgraceful mess and we can't stop it because there's so many young ethnic gangs doing it .
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7048801/race-knife-crime-truth-media-avoids/

Not to mention the total balls up this government is making of brexit. When it doesn't happen, which it almost certainly won't, there could well be a backlash politically and for most of us leavers UKIP will be the go to place. Labour will also be decimated in the north.

UKIP is definitely a good thing. Their existence ensure that brand of politics doesn’t properly infiltrate the conservatives, all the while never having any real hope at power. I also don’t buy the argument that UKIP lead to the vote on Brexit, that was caused by internal conservative divisions stemming from decades ago.

UKIP needs to rebrand itself away from the current iteration of moronic racist shaven headed white vanners

no offense intended

Exactly the kind of dismissive attitude which helped to cause the brexit vote.
Some people will never learn, your surname isn't Thornberry is it?

did you have a fun fireworks party ?

Basically I overheard a conversation some girls were having about how if UKIP get into power the country is doomed, jokingly saying they'd all be kicked out of the country (three Asian girls and a black girl; all born here) but then went on to say Farage wanted all the Asians out which is when I said "He couldn't do that. There'd be some massive rebellion" also adding that the Tories and Labour wouldn't be much better for the country. I bowed out soon afterwards realising I'd kind of spoken where I shouldn't have (because you know, not my conversation). This got me to thinking about how there are probably a lot of people that really think that.

My dad votes for UKIP and I got into a conversation with him about it the other day. He argued that UKIP aren't actually racist, they just want tighter immigration laws and for our country to stop giving benefits to everyone who comes in.

Now while his argument, though not really backed up by anything, actually sounds more like something that COULD be a possibility I'm still not sure partially because of the bad rep they've got. I want intending on voting next year but now im considering voting for UKIP mainly because we've seen both the conservatives and labour **** up so it'd be nice to see if UKI p is an improvement. If not, we can always get rid of them in 4 years right? But anyways I'm interested as to what you all think.

I know these threads are overdone however I wanted to make a thread asking rather than focussing on certain things, I just want to ask in general do people consider UKIP good or bad?

UKIP are bad because:

1) They wish to remove the UK from the jurisdiction of the EU court of human rights. You heard me, UKIP wants the UK not to have to abide by laws that protect fundamental human rights and freedoms.

2) 'No to political correctness'- basically they'd like to create a platform where racist/homophobic/islamaphobic statements are no longer frowned upon. They say PC stifles free speech, I say not having it segregates society.