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What qualifications do you need to Teach in a College or University?!?

Hi, i'm interested in teaching but i'm not sure which level. I would like to do primary school teaching, teach in college or lecture at university.

I know i would need a good pass in a subject at degree level and then do a PGCE for primary teaching, but is there a post-graduate qualification to teach at college or university.
I think i read somewhere that you need a masters or Phd to teach at university and you have to be doing some research.

Which level of teaching do you think is less stressful:confused: I know that teaching is a stressfull occupation but i suffer from health problems and i have to be very cautious of my stress levels in the future.
(if i didnt have this illness, it wouldnt bother me).

I would appreciate any advice.

Thank You
Reply 1
Hi (again)

For university lecturing you normally need a PhD or to work as an assistant/tutor, a good Masters degree. It is a bit different in Germany. It is very stressful as well. You mainly do research and normally internal university politics take it out of you (I know from all my previous departments).

The UK requires a lot of quality evaluation and monitoring, so you have a lot of paperwork to do, but once you are over the initial start period, primary teaching can be more rewarding than stressful. Do not underestimate it though.

As far as college goes, there are some that take you with secondary qualifications and FE PGCEs (The latter does not include QTS).

Try all of them out (well, uni should be difficult). If you are undecided, do a degree in a subject maybe combined with education studies.
Reply 2
Hi, thanx so much for replying and all the information.

I wasnt really sure how to get into lecturing at university, but it sounds like a tough job and i really want to be carefull about my stress levels.

I am reallly interesed in primary school teaching because i think it would be more enjoyable and fun but i was thinking i should look into other levels because i dont really have that much patience, but i'm hoping you can develop that as you progress through your career.

I have thought of studying a joint degree, i'm just undecided at the mo, getting unwell has had a bigger impact on my life and future then i would like.

Thank you again for all your help.

xx
Reply 3
Take your time to decide and, well, I would rather take a year out now to decide what you wanna do. Try it all out. Primary is rewarding. But as cute as 7 year olds are, they can be devils too. And, then there os KS 2 :biggrin:

But you need to see for yourself. Maybe you can work as a teaching assistant for a while?
A lot of TA's have said they'd rather not be teachers and a lot of teachers have said TA work is more rewarding. At least at the schools I volunteered at in London.
Reply 4
I have kinda taken a year out. I was meant to get back into education last sept after recovering from getting unwell, but my course got cancelled and i was notified too late and couldnt enroll in another course, (P/T course)

So i decided i would take the year out and get some experience. But unfortunaley i have spent most of the year unwell and trying to accept my illness which is a real bother for me because it was so traumatic when it happened and well i have just had my issues with it.
It didnt help that eveyone was asking me for a CRB check but i didnt know how to go about it because you cant get one done independenlty.

This year has been a mess, I really wish i had got some proper experience but it has been a mix of evrything this year. So thats why i'm so stressed about deciding what to study.
I dont want to take another year out. I feel dissapointed in myself as it is.
Reply 5
Well, I am now 25, with some experience I wouldn't wanna be about and I have not finished a BA/BSc and do not care :wink:

Sorry about your course being cancelled.
Reply 6
lol, its ok. I just got pissed that they told me 2 days before it started.

I kinda want to get my degree done because i plan to get married soon after i graduate and i dont really fancy studying when married, but i might change my mind.

I get abit upset sometimes because my friends all graduated this year and i felt abit left out. But most of them are going into full time work now and i still got uni life to look forward too.

xx
Reply 7
Laaibah
lol, its ok. I just got pissed that they told me 2 days before it started.

I kinda want to get my degree done because i plan to get married soon after i graduate and i dont really fancy studying when married, but i might change my mind.

I get abit upset sometimes because my friends all graduated this year and i felt abit left out. But most of them are going into full time work now and i still got uni life to look forward too.

xx

Don't let others influence how you feel about yourself. After all, everyone is different. My ex best girlfriend is now a fully qualified vet, which is scary. But in the end, I have achieved other things and really cannot imagine being in my job yet either.
Reply 8
universities offer PGC"HE" - you need to be seriously top of your tree too, often with phds. think about this after your degree because its a long path (im in 8th? year now and still might not get a job as a lecturer without being a research fellow for a couple of years...). To lecture FE you need a degree and a pgce - so its a 4 year journey.
Reply 9
Thank you.
xx
Hi, yeah this is an interesting thread. I was considering going into teaching myself and I was also wondering how people come to be university lecturers - is there anyone else with information about what exactly you have to do/achieve in order to become a lecturer at a university and the kind of things that the job entails in comparison to, say, a secondary school and sixth form teacher? Any info = appreciated. Thnx :smile:
Lecturing is not difficult, research and paperwork are what makes academic life stressful. There are jobs out there in HE for people who solely want to teach, but there aren't many of them (my gf is a senior lecturer in maths and economics and he does have a PhD or conduct research, jammy beggar 3 months off in the summer!). Look out for teaching fellowships at newer universities and HE colleges. The more established an institution is the more likely they are to expect you to have some track record in scholarly research before their will employ you.

Essentially for most people, the path to teaching in HE is driven by the desire to make a career out of research, so a PhD and possibly post-doctoral experience are required before you will even be considered for a permanent position on the academic staff. Basically I would say that a career in academia is for those who primarily enjoy research and as an added bonus enjoy imparting their knowledge to others who wish to learn it.