Recommend me a laptop that has better or same spec as Macbook Air and is less priced Watch

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Well I have Macbook Air which is almost 2.5 years old but my screen was cracked by an accident and it seems that if I pay for the repair it would be cheaper (or more worth) to buy a new laptop.

I like Mac OS as it looks cool and easy to use but honestly I've been feeling like Macs are overpriced lately. I might as well use Windows next.

So I'm looking for a good laptop ideally 13 inch screen. I want it to be cheaper than Macbook Air 13' and I want it to have the same or better spec than MBA 13'.
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Title.

Well I have Macbook Air which is almost 2.5 years old but my screen was cracked by an accident and it seems that if I pay for the repair it would be cheaper (or more worth) to buy a new laptop.

I like Mac OS as it looks cool and easy to use but honestly I've been feeling like Macs are overpriced lately. I might as well use Windows next.

So I'm looking for a good laptop ideally 13 inch screen. I want it to be cheaper than Macbook Air 13' and I want it to have the same or better spec than MBA 13'.
Looking exactly at 13" laptops, the prices are the same as the air and higher. 15" area is where it can be out done on specs and price a little.. Though compromise is size, weight and OS.
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Looking exactly at 13" laptops, the prices are the same as the air and higher. 15" area is where it can be out done on specs and price a little.. Though compromise is size, weight and OS.
Yeah I know that's weird D:
I only looked at Sony website (patriotism overpowered) and 14'/15' are cheaper than Macbook Air but 13' are really expensive O.o I don't understand... I don't want anything bigger than 13' because it's too heavy and 11' is too small to play a game
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Contrary to Apple's usual reputation, the MavBook Air line are very reasonably priced compared to other comparable ultrabooks as mentioned above, especially after the recent price cut and applying student discount. You're looking for same spec, same size and cheaper, but you're only going to get two of the three whatever you get.

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I don't understand...
It's more expensive to miniaturise and produce smaller laptops :yep:

I don't want anything bigger than 13' because it's too heavy and 11' is too small to play a game
What games are we talking? Ultraportables are not the way to go if you want to play anything demanding.
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Contrary to Apple's usual reputation, the MacBook Air line are very reasonably priced compared to other comparable ultrabooks as mentioned above, especially after the recent price cut and applying student discount. You're looking for same spec, same size and cheaper, but you're only going to get two of the three whatever you get.



It's more expensive to miniaturise and produce smaller laptops :yep:



What games are we talking? Ultraportables are not the way to go if you want to play anything demanding.
oh the price actually went down by a lot since I bought my mid 2011 MBA :eek:

well I play League of Legends casually also Spiral Knights both F2P games
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oh the price actually went down by a lot since I bought my mid 2011 MBA :eek:

well I play League of Legends casually also Spiral Knights both F2P games
As long as you aren't expecting to crank the details up too high, the MBA will do the job :yy:
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As long as you aren't expecting to crank the details up too high, the MBA will do the job :yy:
well I run LoL at mid quality (some at high, some at low so averaged out to mid) with my current 2011 mid machine and it's perfectly fine unless everyone uses ability at the same time. 20FPS isn't good but playable so yeah
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well I run LoL at mid quality (some at high, some at low so averaged out to mid) with my current 2011 mid machine and it's perfectly fine unless everyone uses ability at the same time. 20FPS isn't good but playable so yeah
Well you'll definitely get higher frame rates than that and Intel's integrated graphics have improved a lot in the last couple of years, so hopefully the performance jump will be pretty significant compared to what you're used to.
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Well you'll definitely get higher frame rates than that and Intel's integrated graphics have improved a lot in the last couple of years, so hopefully the performance jump will be pretty significant compared to what you're used to.
cool
and I will get that cheaper than when I bought my current MBA

guess I won't need Macbook pro though Retina display is very attracting...it would be waste of spec if I only wrote essays, surfed internet and played League casually
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cool
and I will get that cheaper than when I bought my current MBA

guess I won't need Macbook pro though Retina display is very attracting...it would be waste of spec if I only wrote essays, surfed internet and played League casually
For the vast majority of purposes retina is just a marketing ploy anyway
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For the vast majority of purposes retina is just a marketing ploy anyway
if i don't discover a windows laptop that satisfies my requirement I shall buy new MBA 13' and forget about Retina ....
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Yeah Apples aren't really overpriced anymore (either that or Windows laptops are overpriced now, too). I got a MBP 13" and love it.

9 hours battery life (11 on the MBA I believe), and crazy light.

Retina is definitely a marketing ploy, but I still think it's a bad idea to not get retina now, if they are similarly priced (and they are). When the time comes to sell it, retina will fetch you a lot more £ - assuming you sell your laptops.

And yeah integrated graphics now is orders of magnitude faster than they were 3-4 years ago.
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And wow, I just went on the Apple UK site for the first time (I am Canadian) and holy @#[email protected]#% laptops are overpriced in the UK!

The MBP I got is $1,499 here (~£889), and £1249 on Apple UK. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot about VAT. It's £1040 before VAT (North American prices are always before tax). I guess that's not TOO bad.
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And wow, I just went on the Apple UK site for the first time (I am Canadian) and holy @#[email protected]#% laptops are overpriced in the UK!

The MBP I got is $1,499 here (~£889), and £1249 on Apple UK. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot about VAT. It's £1040 before VAT (North American prices are always before tax). I guess that's not TOO bad.
You also have to consider that minimum and average wages are different (making the assumption the Canadian figures are similar to the US ones). The UK minimum wage is about double that of the USA for example.
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You also have to consider that minimum and average wages are different (making the assumption the Canadian figures are similar to the US ones). The UK minimum wage is about double that of the USA for example.
That's true. Not as much as double, though. In the US it's set by the states, and it's $8 (£4.75) in California for example (most states are $7-$9). Looks like it's £6.31 in the UK right now. That seems to be proportional to the average price of goods.

Beyond minimum wages, it would really vary by profession. For example for competent engineers with 2 years work experience, it's reasonably easy to get $110,000 (£65K) in the US, but almost impossible to get that in the UK (average £40,000-50,000).
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That's true. Not as much as double, though. In the US it's set by the states, and it's $8 (£4.75) in California for example (most states are $7-$9). Looks like it's £6.31 in the UK right now. That seems to be proportional to the average price of goods.

Beyond minimum wages, it would really vary by profession. For example for competent engineers with 2 years work experience, it's reasonably easy to get $110,000 (£65K) in the US, but almost impossible to get that in the UK (average £40,000-50,000).
I remembered the federal rate incorrectly. In terms of minimum and average I think prices are fairly similar for RRPs, however there are some things that could be legitimately cheaper to get shipped from NA.
And what sort of engineer, because I'm fairly confident that the demand is higher in NA compared to the UK.
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I remembered the federal rate incorrectly. In terms of minimum and average I think prices are fairly similar for RRPs, however there are some things that could be legitimately cheaper to get shipped from NA.
And what sort of engineer, because I'm fairly confident that the demand is higher in NA compared to the UK.
Yeah it may mostly just be the VAT. 20% is more than twice the average sales tax in the US.

Electrical and computer engineers. It's probably true that demand is higher in the states, since all the big engineering companies are there.
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Yeah it may mostly just be the VAT. 20% is more than twice the average sales tax in the US.

Electrical and computer engineers. It's probably true that demand is higher in the states, since all the big engineering companies are there.
The UK isn't totally devoid of them though We just aren't insane enough to put 30% of our budget into the military
Financial services FTW!
Anyway, this has gone totally off topic.
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The UK isn't totally devoid of them though We just aren't insane enough to put 30% of our budget into the military
Financial services FTW!
Anyway, this has gone totally off topic.
Ha! Makes you wonder what they use all that 20% VAT for :P.

Canada is ~5-15% depending on province. We also have public health care, free education up to university, heavily subsidized university education, and pretty good welfare programs.

But then Canada has almost 0 military, which is actually pretty smart - why build a military when the US is right next door, and there is no way the US would let anyone take over Canada?

And yes, this is very far off topic
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Yeah Apples aren't really overpriced anymore (either that or Windows laptops are overpriced now, too). I got a MBP 13" and love it.

9 hours battery life (11 on the MBA I believe), and crazy light.

Retina is definitely a marketing ploy, but I still think it's a bad idea to not get retina now, if they are similarly priced (and they are). When the time comes to sell it, retina will fetch you a lot more £ - assuming you sell your laptops.

And yeah integrated graphics now is orders of magnitude faster than they were 3-4 years ago.
well I think MBA will be Retina next because every other Apple's portable device has been made into Retina except for MBA. (I think it will be very hard to make Retina model with good battery life and be as thin as MBA tbh but I believe they can do that) I don't think my laptop's crack is going to survive until then though... sadly

and no I don't sell my laptop. I don't upgrade laptops for no reason. I keep my laptop until it has a major problem that's very expensive to repair ie SCREEN CRACK
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