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I'm interested in what people think about housewives - are they irrelevant in modern society? And what about househusbands?
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Me, personally? I can't understand how someone can be a housewive from say age 25 to 75. Wouldn't you get so god awfully bored? Ambition? Career?

I understand the desire to spend time with children, but say only till they're 3 or 4 and start school. What do you do when they go to school? Seems an awfully boring life to me. I personally think it suggests a lack of ambition, and I can't be attracted to a person like that as I find ambition a very attractive quality.

So, on the whole, not for me, don't get why anyone would be a housewife in the long run. Oh and ditto for househusbands, though its FAR, FAR more frowned upon by society, whatever the idealists on here say.
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I think that being a housewife is an option that should not be frowned upon, in fact I think that by being a housewife it doesn't necessarily mean that one us prevented and restricted from doing other things? I think that because of the previous dominations of how women have been expected to become housewives it is now looked down upon in society, however housewives are of just as high value as women with working jobs


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housewives are of just as high value as women with working jobs


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(Original post by elpistolero7)
Me, personally? I can't understand how someone can be a housewive from say age 25 to 75. Wouldn't you get so god awfully bored? Ambition? Career?

I understand the desire to spend time with children, but say only till they're 3 or 4 and start school. What do you do when they go to school? Seems an awfully boring life to me. I personally think it suggests a lack of ambition, and I can't be attracted to a person like that as I find ambition a very attractive quality.

So, on the whole, not for me, don't get why anyone would be a housewife in the long run. Oh and ditto for househusbands, though its FAR, FAR more frowned upon by society, whatever the idealists on here say.
You spend time with your kids before and after school. In the day, you cook, bake, make sure the house is nice, sort out anything that needs doing (like picking up prescriptions, shopping etc) prepare things for when your family gets back. When your kids get back you read with them, draw with them, play with them. You make sure food is ready for your husband.

I think it would be lovely. Taking my kids for walks, stopping to point out the insects, teaching them to fly kites, colouring with them, drawing up word searches, cooking together

I don't think it is a lack of ambition, just a different one
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They contribute in other ways that are not monetary
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I have the utmost respect for them. Someone who is prepared to dedicate their time and energy toward maintaining a home and raising children, that's truly admirable. As long as there are no financial difficulties, this is the ideal family structure. I'm a firm advocate of family units which are structured around a stable home environment with a housewife or househusband (doesn't matter which) with a main breadwinner (or breadwinners).

Alternatively, instead of a housewife, some other family member can take on the role responsibilities which are traditionally held by a housewife. It can be a son, daughter, aunt, uncle...whatever.
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If being a housewife was actually difficult all the feminists on here would claim it's part of the patriarchy and insist the men stay at home.

It's an easy option.
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If being a housewife was actually difficult all the feminists on here would claim it's part of the patriarchy and insist the men stay at home.

It's an easy option.
No we wouldn't because as feminists we respect women's choices.
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(Original post by elpistolero7)
Me, personally? I can't understand how someone can be a housewive from say age 25 to 75. Wouldn't you get so god awfully bored? Ambition? Career?

I understand the desire to spend time with children, but say only till they're 3 or 4 and start school. What do you do when they go to school? Seems an awfully boring life to me. I personally think it suggests a lack of ambition, and I can't be attracted to a person like that as I find ambition a very attractive quality.

So, on the whole, not for me, don't get why anyone would be a housewife in the long run. Oh and ditto for househusbands, though its FAR, FAR more frowned upon by society, whatever the idealists on here say.
This!


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You spend time with your kids before and after school. In the day, you cook, bake, make sure the house is nice, sort out anything that needs doing (like picking up prescriptions, shopping etc) prepare things for when your family gets back. When your kids get back you read with them, draw with them, play with them. You make sure food is ready for your husband.

I think it would be lovely. Taking my kids for walks, stopping to point out the insects, teaching them to fly kites, colouring with them, drawing up word searches, cooking together

I don't think it is a lack of ambition, just a different one
You can still do all of these things while having a meaningful career.
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No we wouldn't because as feminists we respect women's choices.
A proportion of women greater than 20% but less than 80% (so as not to be told I am generalising, generally there's a tickbox when talking to certain members on here which turns a simple statement into a 4 paragraph terms and conditions box) do not respect each other's choices.

Try asking women about breast feeding, caesareans, whether lazing about all day at home is work etc, you will find they militantly defend what they do and rule other things out as incorrect.

And that's without talking about stuff like naked modelling, porn, abortions etc.

People disagree with each other, there isn't some sort of sisterhood where all women get along and respect each other's choices at all!
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(Original post by Tyrion_Lannister)
You spend time with your kids before and after school. In the day, you cook, bake, make sure the house is nice, sort out anything that needs doing (like picking up prescriptions, shopping etc) prepare things for when your family gets back. When your kids get back you read with them, draw with them, play with them. You make sure food is ready for your husband.

I think it would be lovely. Taking my kids for walks, stopping to point out the insects, teaching them to fly kites, colouring with them, drawing up word searches, cooking together

I don't think it is a lack of ambition, just a different one
This is very good. It's getting more and more difficult to find women who know their role in life these days.
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No we wouldn't because as feminists we respect women's choices.

Most feminists I have met reserve the right to label any woman's choice they don't like as being coerced by men.
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(Original post by Huskaris)
If being a housewife was actually difficult all the feminists on here would claim it's part of the patriarchy and insist the men stay at home.

It's an easy option.
Of course it's the easy option: slaving away at a 9-5 vs chilling out at home all day
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Most feminists I have met reserve the right to label any woman's choice they don't like as being coerced by men.
PRSOM but put it perfectly.

Either you agree with me and you are a feminist or you disagree with me an my dear, you are a poor poor victim of the patriarchy and I will look down on you, my small minded sister.
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I'm not sure about it being "irrelevant", though. That's a bit of TSR otherworldliness, I think.
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I respect ACTUAL housewives/husbands , that being those who actually spend their day doing work around their house and/or with their children. I have no respect for these lazy peoplewho have the whole day to do these things and act all confused when their spouse comes home all mad because the house is still a mess.
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When you have two working adults with children then both adults should reasonably expect to share the job of looking after and running the house and looking after the children. For most people this means everyone getting home at 5 from school and work, meal to be cooked, house to clean, laundry, homework, paperwork etc. If one party (man or woman) is willing to take on the job of looking after those things instead of being employed then it means evenings and weekends are free from chores for the employed adult and family life can be enjoyed.

I'd far rather kids and husband come home to a clean house with a home cooked meal, all paperwork done and a relaxed and happy family sharing quality time together, than a chaotic place where everyone is busy and nobody has time for themselves or each other.
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(Original post by Tyrion_Lannister)
You spend time with your kids before and after school. In the day, you cook, bake, make sure the house is nice, sort out anything that needs doing (like picking up prescriptions, shopping etc) prepare things for when your family gets back. When your kids get back you read with them, draw with them, play with them. You make sure food is ready for your husband.

I think it would be lovely. Taking my kids for walks, stopping to point out the insects, teaching them to fly kites, colouring with them, drawing up word searches, cooking together

I don't think it is a lack of ambition, just a different one
To be fair, the stuff with the ids does sound nice . I should, perhaps, have mentioned that my opinion is one that's slightly more extreme in that I'm very driven career minded, so the concept of being a house husband/housewife is alien to me.

What you describe does sound quite nice though, although I still think you'd have an awful lot of spare time. If it makes someone and their partner happy though, they should go for it.

Then again, I think you could do most of those things (barring the cooking and cleaning, which if you split with your partner/hire someone to do), you'd have enough time for a full proper career and enough time to be a hands on mom who spends a lot of time with the kids. Not everyone wants that though and that's a fair enough preference to have.
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I respect ACTUAL housewives/husbands , that being those who actually spend their day doing work around their house and/or with their children. I have no respect for these lazy peoplewho have the whole day to do these things and act all confused when their spouse comes home all mad because the house is still a mess.
So you're saying WAGS are useless?? :eek:
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