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lol. you sound like not england fan or football fan.
I quite like following international football (although it bores me on a club level), and I will certainly be supporting England. But let's be realistic. Italy and Uruguay are both excellent teams, and England is still the ever-cautious mess it has been for decades. Hodgson is changing things for the better but England still lags behind other world-class teams. We're a second-rate team which the media always overhypes because we codified the sport, because we have a very important League, and because this country is afflicted by a debilitating love of football which is obnoxious and borders on hooliganism at times (though less so now than it used to be).

And now I'm leaving this thread, because if there's one kind of debate I despise more than any other, it is sports debate.
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Only England could manage to leave Terry and Cole on the beach in Florida during the WC.
Exactly- absolutely ridiculous.


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Yeah was debating over whether Lallana should slot in out considered him more of a wide man? As in the left or right of a 4-2-3-1.

Our defence is appalling tbh. I rage about Terry not being in. Why they can't move on is beyond me. A Cahill- Terry partnership and we'd actually have a half chance. It's annoying because we're ruining ourselves over pride issues- you don't see Uruguay dropping Suarez.


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[email protected] Suarez and Terry comparison.

Terry is overrated anyway. He cost England in the last World Cup. He has no speed.
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I quite like following international football (although it bores me on a club level), and I will certainly be supporting England. But let's be realistic. Italy and Uruguay are both excellent teams, and England is still the ever-cautious mess it has been for decades. Hodgson is changing things for the better but England still lags behind other world-class teams. We're a second-rate team which the media always overhypes because we codified the sport, because we have a very important League, and because this country is afflicted by a debilitating love of football which is obnoxious and borders on hooliganism at times (though less so now than it used to be).

And now I'm leaving this thread, because if there's one kind of debate I despise more than any other, it is sports debate.
i agree on you. england can not be plan. england can have luck and beat other country. but let hope england does well
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I think it's funny how everyone gets hyped up every time about us winning saying 'we have never been better' but it doesn't seem to pay off. I can't imagine us winning against some of the other big teams :hmmm:

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That was before my time tbh so didn't wanna comment! The 'golden generation' definitely under-performed though.
Any one of those names would have walked into today's team. You've got prolific goalscorers and top defenders/midfielders on that list, no token places for poorly performing players just to make up the numbers (Defoe, Carrick, Cleverley, Carroll, arguably Lampard),
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Ashley Cole is not going so NO CHANCE IN HELL
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
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[email protected] Suarez and Terry comparison.

Terry is overrated anyway. He cost England in the last World Cup. He has no speed.
Why is that even lol? They both said racist things.
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This is Englands worst ever squad.
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Why is that even lol? They both said racist things.
Ohhhhhh….I thought you were saying that Terry is as good as Suarez or as important.
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Ohhhhhh….I thought you were saying that Terry is as good as Suarez or as important.
Nah was trying to make the point that both said racist things- Uruguay still kept faith with him in their squad yet we had to strip him of the captaincy.


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This is Englands worst ever squad.
The one 2 years ago was worse
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A chance of winning against Costa Rica maybe, but that's about all.
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If you want my prediction

This is going to be a long post!

GROUP A
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Brazil v. Croatia = Brazil win
Mexico v. Cameroon = Mexico win
Brazil v. Mexico = Brazil win
Cameroon v. Croatia = Croatia win
Brazil v. Cameroon = Brazil win
Croatia v. Mexico = Croatia win

POINTS:
Brazil - 9
Croatia - 6
Mexico - 3
Cameroon - 0



GROUP B
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Spain v. Netherlands - Draw
Chile v. Australia - Australia win
Australia v. Netherlands - Netherlands win
Spain v. Chile - Spain win
Spain v. Australia - Spain win
Chile v. Netherlands - Netherlands win

Spain - 7 - Spain will get MORE goals
Netherlands - 7
Australia - 3
Chile - 0


GROUP C
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Colombia v. Greece - Colombia win
Ivory Coast v. Japan - Japan win
Colombia v. Ivory Coast - Colombia win
Japan v. Greece - Greece win
Japan v. Colombia - Colombia win
Greece v. Ivory Coast - Greece win

Colombia - 9
Greece - 6
Japan - 3
Ivory Coast - 0


Group D
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Uruguay vs. Costa Rica - Uruguay win
Italy vs. England - Draw
Uruguay vs. England - Uruguay win
Italy vs. Costa Rica - Italy win
England vs. Costa Rica - England win
Uruguay vs. Italy - Draw

Uruguay - 7
Italy - 5
England - 4
Costa Rica - 0


GROUP E
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Switzerland v. Ecuador - Swiss win
France v. Honduras - France win
Switzerland v. France - France win
Honduras v. Ecuador - Ecuador win
Honduras v. Switzerland - Swiss win
France v. Ecuador - France win

France - 9
Switzerland - 6
Ecuador - 3
Honduras - 0


GROUP F
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Argentina vs. Bosnia/Herz - Argentina win
Iran vs. Nigeria - Nigeria win
Argentina vs. Iran - Argentina win
Bosnia/Herz vs. Nigeria - Draw
Argentina vs. Nigeria - Argentina win
Iran vs. Bosnia/Herz - Bosnia/Herz win

Argentina - 9
Bosnia/Herz - 4 (more goals)
Nigeria - 4
Iran


GROUP G
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Germany v. Portugal - Germany win
USA v. Ghana - USA win
Germany v. USA - Germany win
Portugal v. Ghana - Portugal win
Germany v. Ghana - Germany win
USA V. Portugal - DRAW

Germany - 9
Portugal - 4 (More goals)
USA - 4
Ghana - 0



GROUP H
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Belgium v. Algeria - Belgian win
Russia v. South Korea - South Korea win
Belgium v. Russia - Belgian win
South Korea v. Algeria - South Korea win
Belgium v. South Korea - Belgian win
Russia v. Algeria - Russian win

Belgium - 9
South Korea - 6
Russia - 3
Algeria - 0



Round of 16

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Brazil v. Netherlands - Netherlands win
Croatia v. Spain - Spain win
Colombia v. Italy - Italy win
Greece v. Uruguay - Uruguay win
France v. Bosnia/Herz - France win
Switzerland v. Argentina - Argentina win
Germany v. South Korea - Germany win
Belgium v. Portugal - Belgium win



QUARTER FINALS
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Spain v. Netherlands - Spain win
Italy v. Uruguay - Italy win in extra time
France v. Argentina - Argentina win
Germany v. Belgium - Germany win


SEMI FINALS
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Spain v. Italy - Spain win
Argentina v. Germany - Germany win


THIRD PLACE PLAY OFF
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Italy v. Argentina - Italy win on penalties


FINAL
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Spain v. Germany - If only extra time SPAIN will win, if penalties GERMANY will win.


There's my prediction
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(Original post by gagaslilmonsteruk)
If you want my prediction

This is going to be a long post!

GROUP A
Spoiler:
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Brazil v. Croatia = Brazil win
Mexico v. Cameroon = Mexico win
Brazil v. Mexico = Brazil win
Cameroon v. Croatia = Croatia win
Brazil v. Cameroon = Brazil win
Croatia v. Mexico = Croatia win

POINTS:
Brazil - 9
Croatia - 6
Mexico - 3
Cameroon - 0



GROUP B
Spoiler:
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Spain v. Netherlands - Draw
Chile v. Australia - Australia win
Australia v. Netherlands - Netherlands win
Spain v. Chile - Spain win
Spain v. Australia - Spain win
Chile v. Netherlands - Netherlands win

Spain - 7 - Spain will get MORE goals
Netherlands - 7
Australia - 3
Chile - 0


GROUP C
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Colombia v. Greece - Colombia win
Ivory Coast v. Japan - Japan win
Colombia v. Ivory Coast - Colombia win
Japan v. Greece - Greece win
Japan v. Colombia - Colombia win
Greece v. Ivory Coast - Greece win

Colombia - 9
Greece - 6
Japan - 3
Ivory Coast - 0


Group D
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Uruguay vs. Costa Rica - Uruguay win
Italy vs. England - Draw
Uruguay vs. England - Uruguay win
Italy vs. Costa Rica - Italy win
England vs. Costa Rica - England win
Uruguay vs. Italy - Draw

Uruguay - 7
Italy - 5
England - 4
Costa Rica - 0


GROUP E
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Switzerland v. Ecuador - Swiss win
France v. Honduras - France win
Switzerland v. France - France win
Honduras v. Ecuador - Ecuador win
Honduras v. Switzerland - Swiss win
France v. Ecuador - France win

France - 9
Switzerland - 6
Ecuador - 3
Honduras - 0


GROUP F
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Argentina vs. Bosnia/Herz - Argentina win
Iran vs. Nigeria - Nigeria win
Argentina vs. Iran - Argentina win
Bosnia/Herz vs. Nigeria - Draw
Argentina vs. Nigeria - Argentina win
Iran vs. Bosnia/Herz - Bosnia/Herz win

Argentina - 9
Bosnia/Herz - 4 (more goals)
Nigeria - 4
Iran


GROUP G
Spoiler:
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Germany v. Portugal - Germany win
USA v. Ghana - USA win
Germany v. USA - Germany win
Portugal v. Ghana - Portugal win
Germany v. Ghana - Germany win
USA V. Portugal - DRAW

Germany - 9
Portugal - 4 (More goals)
USA - 4
Ghana - 0



GROUP H
Spoiler:
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Belgium v. Algeria - Belgian win
Russia v. South Korea - South Korea win
Belgium v. Russia - Belgian win
South Korea v. Algeria - South Korea win
Belgium v. South Korea - Belgian win
Russia v. Algeria - Russian win

Belgium - 9
South Korea - 6
Russia - 3
Algeria - 0



Round of 16

Spoiler:
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Brazil v. Netherlands - Netherlands win
Croatia v. Spain - Spain win
Colombia v. Italy - Italy win
Greece v. Uruguay - Uruguay win
France v. Bosnia/Herz - France win
Switzerland v. Argentina - Argentina win
Germany v. South Korea - Germany win
Belgium v. Portugal - Belgium win



QUARTER FINALS
Spoiler:
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Spain v. Netherlands - Spain win
Italy v. Uruguay - Italy win in extra time
France v. Argentina - Argentina win
Germany v. Belgium - Germany win


SEMI FINALS
Spoiler:
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Spain v. Italy - Spain win
Argentina v. Germany - Germany win


THIRD PLACE PLAY OFF
Spoiler:
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Italy v. Argentina - Italy win on penalties


FINAL
Spoiler:
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Spain v. Germany - If only extra time SPAIN will win, if penalties GERMANY will win.


There's my prediction
thats sound alright, but i think Brazil will make it far, because they did beat Spain 3-0
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In theory we have just as much chance as anyone else. We are always expect to have low chances though, but for all we know this could be our year (the year that luck favors us and everyone else makes the mistakes). I like the team, I like the manager and perhaps just this once we will cope with the heat.

You never know do you...
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Realistically no. I reckon we'll just about make it out of the Group but won't get any further than that.
Our squad certainly isn't world class, I personally don't think our manager is a world beater & we're also playing in Brazil where European teams don't do particularly well on the whole.
The last World Cup to be held in South America was in Argentina in 1978 so that's hardly relevant to today's game.

The squad is better than people give it credit for and Hodgson knows how to set a team up to be difficult to beat. He got Fulham to a Europa final and Italy could only beat us on penalties in the Euros. I think he is doing a good job but he got it so horribly wrong not taking Ashley Cole.

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Not really. Personally, I hope they get absolutely slaughtered so finally the media will admit this team is garbage and so are the vast majority of people in it.
It's not 2006 mate. This is one of the most low key run ins to a tournament with the lowest expectation I've known in my lifetime. They aren't building us up at all. Nobody expects us to win and many don't expect us to even do well, see this thread. I saw Hodgson's press conference a week or so back and the journalist asked him if he thought we could win the World Cup, his tone of voice seemed to hint that you'd be deluded to think we can. Hodgson seemed to get annoyed by that. Sturridge was playing us down after the Peru match too, it is true we've been typically over hyped before previous World Cups but the idea that the media are getting carried away just isn't true. I think secretly, a lot of people believe we can do quite well but nobody is saying it.

(Original post by Tufto)
We shall lose to Uruguay and Italy, and not get out of the group stage. And then we can all get on with our lives.
No we won't. Seems fans have gone from deluded optimism to the other extreme.

We will beat Italy and will make it to the knock outs. Quote me on that all you like.
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I quite like following international football (although it bores me on a club level), and I will certainly be supporting England. But let's be realistic. Italy and Uruguay are both excellent teams, and England is still the ever-cautious mess it has been for decades. Hodgson is changing things for the better but England still lags behind other world-class teams. We're a second-rate team which the media always overhypes because we codified the sport, because we have a very important League, and because this country is afflicted by a debilitating love of football which is obnoxious and borders on hooliganism at times (though less so now than it used to be).

And now I'm leaving this thread, because if there's one kind of debate I despise more than any other, it is sports debate.
I don't think you know much, really. Uruguay are nothing special, they have Suarez and Cavani but the rest of the team is average.
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I don't think you know much, really. Uruguay are nothing special, they have Suarez and Cavani but the rest of the team is average.
Yep, & needed a play off to qualify as well.
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