Existing teachers trying to put you off teaching

Why? Are you retiring? If you are, are you looking forward to it?

M5 for an NQT! Lucky them!
Thinking mathematically then - wouldn't there come a point when everybody would train to be a maths/physics teacher, which would lead to the saturation of the market? How long will there be a shortage of these disciplines?

I would be more willing to consider your point of view, if I have not been put off by your rudeness.

I don't hate my school as it happens.

Let's see if you are still blaming teachers for being negative when you are at the end of a 70 hour working week and a pupil has just called you a c*nt and thrown a table at you for the umpteenth time and yet again no support is provided by management.
Yeah it's a real fun job.

I find that far more rude and dismissive, particularly with the patronising smiley face added at the end when you simply don't have the experience to understand things from other teachers' perspectives.

You really should listen to other teachers. We don't give advice to NQTs and PGCE students to be mean but rather to help them understand the tough profession they are entering.

Considering all this discussion about it being difficult to move schools when pay-rate and age becomes a factor in employment. Are people effectively suggesting that it'd be a good plan to find a school that you are happy with later on?

Hi. I know this is an old thread but thought I would chime in.

Many teachers have never had any other type of job. They have never worked on minimum wage, no pension, 20 days holiday 12 hour shifts stacking shelves with knuckle dragging supervisors breathing down your neck year in year out. I have worked many of this type if job and I would say that has given me a good perspective. I did half a pgce. I'm currently on a break. I thought the teaching environment was a breath of fresh air. It was a novelty to be working with nice people in a nice environment doing fascinating work. The interactions with children were amazing. The only reason I took a break was because of my life long problem suffering with no confidence and social anxiety. If it wasn't for that I would be a teacher in a heart beat despite the work load. Many teachers just do not have the perspective by working in bottom rung jobs. Simon

Also. The complaint about having to work through holidays. Teachers spend a lot of their holiday working at home, yes. But are still left with a lot more holiday than normal jobs. Working from home in a peaceful environment? Sounds nice to me.

I find it very ironic that you are saying teaching isn't that hard, and yet you are taking a break from the PGCE.

Ultimately, although teachers complain about the workload, it is very often mental health issues that lead to people leaving the profession. And teaching does have a high rate of people leaving due to stress compared to other comparable professions.

A lot of teachers are now career changers, and whilst I don't think teaching is uniquely hard by any means, it's a different kind of stress/pressure to working a low paid job and being able to leave it at the door. It's not just working from home, it's waking up in the middle of the night thinking about the kid who's been self harming, or knowing that you're taking time from planning amazing lessons to do paperwork which is far less important.

Also, given the year that teachers have had, making digs about working from home is extremely unnecessary.

Finally, teaching is a post graduate profession. Teachers aren't complaining about workload/pay compared to minimum wage jobs, they are comparing it to other professions that require the same level of qualification.

Ultimately, teaching isn't a job everyone can do, and secondary teaching at least is suffering a huge retention crisis, so clearly something is going wrong!

Hi. I know this is an old thread but thought I would chime in.Many teachers have never had any other type of job. They have never worked on minimum wage, no pension, 20 days holiday 12 hour shifts stacking shelves with knuckle dragging supervisors breathing down your neck year in year out. I have worked many of this type if job and I would say that has given me a good perspective. I did half a pgce. I'm currently on a break. I thought the teaching environment was a breath of fresh air. It was a novelty to be working with nice people in a nice environment doing fascinating work. The interactions with children were amazing. The only reason I took a break was because of my life long problem suffering with no confidence and social anxiety. If it wasn't for that I would be a teacher in a heart beat despite the work load. Many teachers just do not have the perspective by working in bottom rung jobs. Simon

Where did I say teaching isn't hard? I can point you to where I said teaching is hard work. Why would you assume I was taking a dig about working from home this and last year? I was talking about working from home drawing up term plans etc during normal times. I would rather be at home in my comfortable environment doing that during a holiday than being at work. There was no dig. Someone needs to improve their critical reading skills. You are addressing points that I didn't make. Perhaps stop pushing a negative light on to what you are reading. My point about perspective still stands no matter who a teacher decides to compare themselves to.

Absolutely love this point of view! I have been in an office based 9-5 role for the past 3 years as well as working in a bar job on the weekend. I can't wait to start my teaching training in September!!