Can someone objectively explain what is going on between China and Vietnam?

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I read recently that China is apparently being the communist bad guys by stealing oil in Vietnamese waters, but this time since Vietnam is also communist I would like to know, both objectively and personally, what is going on, and who is in the right/wrong (by internation law for extra brownie points)
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Hi,
I read recently that China is apparently being the communist bad guys by stealing oil in Vietnamese waters, but this time since Vietnam is also communist I would like to know, both objectively and personally, what is going on, and who is in the right/wrong (by internation law for extra brownie points)
It would be wrong to assume that Communist country's like each other all of the time.

China and The Soviet Union had a falling out.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-...order_conflict


And Vietnam and China have had failings out in the past.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

China is desperate to secure it's own oil reserves.

This kind of thing is happening throughout the South China Sea.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands_dispute

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansha

country's will work together if there's a mutual goal. However they'll look after themselves when they need to.
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(Original post by locrian37)
Hi,
I read recently that China is apparently being the communist bad guys by stealing oil in Vietnamese waters, but this time since Vietnam is also communist I would like to know, both objectively and personally, what is going on, and who is in the right/wrong (by internation law for extra brownie points)
Objectively?

The South China Seais said to have large petroleum and natural gas reserves.

Therefore all the countries in the area have territorial interests in the area.

China and Vietnam despite being members of the communist fraternity have historically come to blows, even in relative near history.

China has unilaterally claimed the vast bulk of the South China Sea.
This naturally conflicts with other countries claims.


And that is why today China and Vietnam are falling out.
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The South China Seais said to have large petroleum and natural gas reserves.

Therefore all the countries in the area have territorial interests in the area.

China and Vietnam despite being members of the communist fraternity have historically come to blows, even in relative near history.

China has unilaterally claimed the vast bulk of the South China Sea.
This naturally conflicts with other countries claims.


And that is why today China and Vietnam are falling out.
But the title gives the clue right? "South China" sea.... I've always thought that every country has the water up to a certain distance away from the land, and everything outside that is free for all, so, is the area China claiming the overlap between the two countries or something?
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But the title gives the clue right? "South China" sea.... I've always thought that every country has the water up to a certain distance away from the land, and everything outside that is free for all, so, is the area China claiming the overlap between the two countries or something?
It is called the South China Sea but it in fact covers a large area, much like the Sea of Japan and so on.

China has claimed it in the vast majority, in breach of current international maritime norms for sea claims. All surrounding countries except maybe Brunei have reasonably large claims but only China makes a claim to the whole area.

So yes, this is causing friction.
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