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well, labour are certainly not doing too good in the poll and this might have something to do with it. i wouldn't say they are uncool, just out of touch with the voters...
Yep. I am a supporter of what they are doing with university fees though. But I guess it's something to do with it. Or just not involving young people.
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Jump on the 'cool' lib dem bandwagon then, its trendy to vote for them!
Haha never!

Are you a supporter? Nah, you have to be Labour?
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Yep. I am a supporter of what they are doing with university fees though. But I guess it's something to do with it. Or just not involving young people.
I agree with what Labour have done with tuition fees. I don't agree with much else they do though
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Am I really that easy to read? Its true, I'm a member of the Labour party.
You sound like a good hard working man, so who else?
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I agree with what Labour have done with tuition fees. I don't agree with much else they do though
:eek: They've done loads of great things. Er... *still thinking*.
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:eek: They've done loads of great things. Er... *still thinking*.
lol....this is making me think now, what the hell exactly have they done.... :confused:

erm...foundation hospitals, illegal wars.... :cool:
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lol....this is making me think now, what the hell exactly have they done.... :confused:

erm...foundation hospitals, illegal wars.... :cool:
..fabricated evidence ... went back on their manifesto...
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lol....this is making me think now, what the hell exactly have they done.... :confused:

erm...foundation hospitals, illegal wars.... :cool:
I know so many people who are better off financially.
Education is more avaliable to adults (than before I think).
AS-levels are good.
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..fabricated evidence ... went back on their manifesto...
hmm....i wonder whether people will remember all this next year when they vote for real...
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hmm....i wonder whether people will remember all this next year when they vote for real...
I will!
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I know so many people who are better off financially.
Education is more avaliable to adults (than before I think).
AS-levels are good.
yup, as levels are a good idea... i'm still 50/50 on top up fees though and much prefer the lib dems way of handling it by taxing those earning over 100K 50% and putting the extra money into education...
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yup, as levels are a good idea... i'm still 50/50 on top up fees though and much prefer the lib dems way of handling it by taxing those earning over 100K 50% and putting the extra money into education...
But why should they have to pay when it isn't going to benefit them?
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yup, as levels are a good idea... i'm still 50/50 on top up fees though and much prefer the lib dems way of handling it by taxing those earning over 100K 50% and putting the extra money into education...
An extra 10% tax on 100k+ isn't going to bring in enough money for all the stuff the Lib Dems have proposed!
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An extra 10% tax on 100k+ isn't going to bring in enough money for all the stuff the Lib Dems have proposed!
Very good point.
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So what's new? Are you surprised at how corrupt politicians are?

Incidentelly, my going round the bend 85 year old Grandmother claims Blair is the best PM she's ever known, and I believe her
No; I have no respect for politicians at all. In fact when I started frequenting this forum I was very surprised at how many people here hold them in such high regard and even entertain ambitions of becoming one themselves!
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Its interesting you should use the phrase 'hard working', as since the 80s (my first exposure to politics through my dad) I've associated Labour with the working man, and the Tories with the middle classes or vaguely 'posh' people. At the time it seemed to me that the Tories essentially were for lower taxes (hence ostensibly making the rich richer) while taxing expenditure more highly, whereas Labour advocated higher income tax but lower VAT etc. Note that this is probably completely wrong as I know nothing about politics. But, that's the thing that has stayed with me. It always bemused me that people without two pennies to rub together could vote Tory, as if a Tory government would somehow make them richer.
Well I'm guessing you are quite well-off now, but you seem that sort of bloke, hard working and from a normal working background? I agree with what you assosciate the parties with, I do too.

I know exactly what you mean about Tory supporters who will not be better off voting them, as they think. It makes me laugh when I see folk supporting tories and joining a 'tory club' when the live on council estates
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Yes.


I'm not sure its right any more though, but its hard to shake those images off.


Because they want to better themselves and mistakenly think the Tories will help them do it. Also, its amusing to find people who think they are 'posh' even though they are patently not!
No party is going to make you rich. You have to do that on your own.

From my limited experience every government just ends up doing the same thing regardless of what promises they make.
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socialist- so they don't feel left out
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If I vote at all in the next election (most likely to spoil at this stage, I feel), it will be for the Greens rather than any of those authoritarian parties.
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Its interesting you should use the phrase 'hard working', as since the 80s (my first exposure to politics through my dad) I've associated Labour with the working man, and the Tories with the middle classes or vaguely 'posh' people. At the time it seemed to me that the Tories essentially were for lower taxes (hence ostensibly making the rich richer) while taxing expenditure more highly, whereas Labour advocated higher income tax but lower VAT etc. Note that this is probably completely wrong as I know nothing about politics. But, that's the thing that has stayed with me. It always bemused me that people without two pennies to rub together could vote Tory, as if a Tory government would somehow make them richer.
I reckon no party will raise income tax from now on. It'd just be giving votes away, especially when there are so many other more subtle ways to raise taxes. Since labour came to power, the country pays about 2% more of the national income in taxes, even though income tax hasn't changed.
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