Why does everyone hate the middle classes so much??

are you ****ing joking?

your parents bought you a house and then you try and make out that you're poor with your "one bed terrace house"?!

MY GOD WAKE THE **** UP.

I just despair too. I've given up, and i suggest you just leave her in her delusion.

I can't ge her. I dont understand the paradoxes. She has her own HOUSE paid for by her parents, but considers sky a luxury. Thats like me thinking sex with Angelina Jolie is the same as sex with Whoopi Goldberg.

there speaks someone who hasnt a clue what they are talking about.

you do realise that some terrace houses (like mine) are smaller than your average flat and in my area are cheaper because they are kinda old and scummy where as the flats are newer. if your looking for accomodation in my area you wont find anything cheaper unless you go for a bedsit.

they didnt buy they rent. i never said i was poor, i just said that i would swap my place for a free but almost identical one any day of the week (who wouldnt). for gods sake i keep saying im comfortable the way i am and youve gone from saying im poor to im rich and back again.

there speaks someone who hasnt a clue what they are talking about.

you do realise that some terrace houses (like mine) are smaller than your average flat and in my area are cheaper because they are kinda old and scummy where as the flats are newer. if your looking for accomodation in my area you wont find anything cheaper unless you go for a bedsit.

im guessing you havnt left home yet or are still in student accomodation?

there speaks someone who hasnt a clue what they are talking about.

you do realise that some terrace houses (like mine) are smaller than your average flat and in my area are cheaper because they are kinda old and scummy where as the flats are newer. if your looking for accomodation in my area you wont find anything cheaper unless you go for a bedsit.

im guessing you havnt left home yet or are still in student accomodation?

No, i don't have a clue. Here's me thinking that having your own flat/terraced house/mere room PAID FOR was a good thing. I need to get with it. I mean, its still practically poverty, innit? Its gotta be at least 3 bedrooms with a sun balcony before its good enough for me!

I'm at home until i go to uni, if i go. If my parents so much as paid for a hole with a stove for me, i'd be grateful for it. You sound like a spolit bitch to be honest. Sorry for the expletetive, but i've lost my patience with you. So far removed from reality, so unaware of what real poverty is, that you can whinge about the place you don't have to pay for, your mobile not being the newest.....you need to ****ing wake up to the world around you, seriously.

cut her some slack cottonmouth! After all she probably doesn't have the luxury of Sky at her paid for house.

No, i don't have a clue. Here's me thinking that having your own flat/terraced house/mere room PAID FOR was a good thing. I need to get with it. I mean, its still practically poverty, innit? Its gotta be at least 3 bedrooms with a sun balcony before its good enough for me!

I'm at home until i go to uni, if i go. If my parents so much as paid for a hole with a stove for me, i'd be grateful for it. You sound like a spolit bitch to be honest. Sorry for the expletetive, but i've lost my patience with you. So far removed from reality, so unaware of what real poverty is, that you can whinge about the place you don't have to pay for, your mobile not being the newest.....you need to ****ing wake up to the world around you, seriously.

Both live in council estate areas.
Both get their houses paid for.
Both only have one room.
Priestess hates it and complains about it.
Cuncil estate mum hates it and complains about it.
Priestess however, thinks that council estate mum loves it,while council estate mum couldn't disagree more, and goes and makes a documentary about it.
Priestess just whines on TSR about it.

Council estate mum wins! Prize: Top-of-the-range mobile phone. Oh crap, she's already got one!

where on here have i moaned about what i have. i am very happy with what ive got and i know im lucky, on the otherhand i also know that im not as rich as you keep making out. yes my parents could afford a better place and im sure if i was as spoilt as you say i could kick and scream till i got it, but it wouldnt be sensible. i wouldnt be able to afford food if i didnt get help with accomodation as my student loan wouldnt even cover my rent and bills. you make it sound like i have the best of everything when tbh i dont own a tv let alone sky. im not complaining, i dont watch tv even when im at my parents, i love my pc too much to be torn way from it!

seriously if you want to see "real poverty" come to medway and see the council estates near me. admire the prostitutes outside my old place, the boarded up shops and crowds of chavs who yell at me as i pass are also delightful. you sound absolutely clueless on what the real world is actually like, seriously come visit the wonders of chavam will make you much more cynical about where your parents tax money goes.

seriously if you want to see "real poverty" come to medway and see the council estates near me. admire the prostitutes outside my old place, the boarded up shops and crowds of chavs who yell at me as i pass are also delightful. you sound absolutely clueless on what the real world is actually like, seriously come visit the wonders of chavam will make you much more cynical about where your parents tax money goes.

GO TO ANY ****KING STUDENT AREA OF ANY LARGE CITY! that is what you get!!!

You're from a "bad area" oh boo hoo - go to Holbrokes or Wood End in Coventry where Cottonmouth is! With an attitude like your's I'd be amazed if you didn't get shot.

i love my house, i love the independence it gives me.

if council estate mums are so hard done by then why do all the chavs near me go for that lifestyle instead of going to school, getting reasonable grades, using a condom, and then actually being able to go to college. its their own choice, if they hate it so much then why dont they get a job like the rest of us? dont try and tell me they cant because they are disadvantaged. we both know thats rubbish.

GO TO ANY ****KING STUDENT AREA OF ANY LARGE CITY! that is what you get!!!

You're from a "bad area" oh boo hoo - go to Holbrokes or Wood End in Coventry where Cottonmouth is! With an attitude like your's I'd be amazed if you didn't get shot.

Jesus. Okay, you are right. They absolutely love it there. Its one big giant party, and they love living off barely any cash, living in hovels, being surrounded by crime, never going abroad...... Now i've finally entered this "real world" of yours. Night, darling.

nn, maybe you will wake up less bitter and twisted in the morning, i doubt it but im an optimist so i'll just go with the 'everythings possible' train of thought.

high priestess fnord xxx

Thing is about the middle class is that we have a good reason to hate the lower class. But not vice versa.

Principally, our money is taken from us by the government and then GIVEN to them and then they spend it on things like Sky tv. Which is no cicrumstances can be a fair state of affairs.

Exactly, I'm so sick of this equating of 'working class' with benefit scroungers. I live in a very working class, Northern former mining town which is now pretty deprived and crime-ridden. There are council estates where no doubt a minority of people do live on benefits. My best friend when I was younger would probably fall into that cateogry. His Mum smoked, had Sky TV (occasionally - before it would be cut off at the end of every month because they couldn't pay the bill.) She tried and failed to hold down a number of jobs. Oh, and they didn't have any carpets, wallpaper or furniture. What do you expect for some people brought up in a situation like that? All the local schools are complete crap, the housing is terrible and you grow up surrounded by drug dealers and violent crime. It's pretty easy for a suburban teenager with a private education under their belt to criticise people for failing in those circumstances.

I live in a 5 room (3 up, 2 down) terracaced house on a main road. My parents, and many others around here, receive benefits like tax credits. They also work every day. It just so happens they aren't earning 30k+ a year in a profession, they just happen to do jobs which don't pay too well.

I think too many people confuse 'working class' with 'unemployed' and despite trying to convey good intentions and effiecient political thought, everything they say is steeped in vitiolic class prejudice.