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Really need help in understanding the the politics question and any help in general....very scared for the exam!!!
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I'm doing this exam and there is literally nothing online for it, is there anything you know of- or need help with?
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I'm doing this exam too! Which politics question are you talking about? I'm also very scared for this exam, I just can't seem to get my exam technique down properly
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It's looking likely that there's going to be a question on comparing Metternich, Bismarck and the Kaiser, one looking at how the aims and ideas of nationalism changed throughout the period and then one looking at mass appeal of nationalism.

Remember that you have to write in themes- DO NOT WRITE CHRONOLOGICALLY, you can't get anything about a D unless you've written it to perfection; which is unlikely in the hour.

What politics question were you talking about Cheekymonkey17?
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Ah, we've been told to mainly prepare for Turning Points, Role of Prussia and Factors, but I really really want Mass Appeal with a Klein/Gross focus :-/
I get the thematic approach, chronological just feels wrong after all the other history work I've done over the years, but just struggle with synthesis and looking at the time period as a whole :-/
Yeh which question do you mean?
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There was a question on whether politics was an important factor, and the mark scheme was terrible, and I wasn't entirely sure what points would be included
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There was a question on whether politics was an important factor, and the mark scheme was terrible, and I wasn't entirely sure what points would be included
Was it "The development of German nationalism was mainly dependant upon political factors" How far do you with this view of the period from 1789 to 1919?
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Was it "The development of German nationalism was mainly dependant upon political factors" How far do you with this view of the period from 1789 to 1919?
Yes it was that one
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The turning points question is likely I suppose, but they might throw a curveball so I'm worried about putting all of my eggs into one basket. The mass appeal question would be really nice but the only thing is, it seems quite difficult to sustain the argument because the answer basically is no for all of the themes.
For example, economically, mass appeal didn't really occur until the 90s because economics only really applied to the industrialists.
Intellectually, mass appeal is more difficult to describe because these ideas that were discussed from the enlightenment were not popular until the kaiser after railways, education had come into effect and these ideas were encouraged, for example the Social Darwinism pamphlet.
Socially, the people were divided up until the Kaiser introduced Sammlungspolitik. Particularism was a very important factor in dividing the nation. This was capitalised on by Metternich who wanted to keep all of the states self interested and so the Diet was an ineffective tool for unifying the states. it encouraged them to be selfish and they were, the representatives were only concerned with the inner affairs of their own state. Bismarck employed divide and rule, so he singled out the socialists, the Catholics but the different factions were already present. For example, junkers, liberals, the minorities (Danes, Poles, French) middle class etc. Germany was unified in name only- the people did not feel 'German' until the Kaiser came along. However, his policies were supposed to unite the German people against the socialists, so whilst the German people came together under the Kasier, he encouraged the isolation of one group within Germany.

The argument is a bit of a repetitive one: mass appeal didn't come into effect until the Kaiser- unless someone fancies a debate?
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Yes it was that one
I doubt this question will come up as it came up in January 2013.

It's fair to say that the impact of industrialisation, Prussian ambitions and war being the most important factor won't come up as they came up in June last year.
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Yes it was that one
I'd just approach this like any other factors question, its just a named factor, so political factors are things like policies so I'd talk about Foreign Policy or maybe political groups like the Navy League etc. But yeh it would be unlikely to come up again
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The turning points question is likely I suppose, but they might throw a curveball so I'm worried about putting all of my eggs into one basket. The mass appeal question would be really nice but the only thing is, it seems quite difficult to sustain the argument because the answer basically is no for all of the themes.
For example, economically, mass appeal didn't really occur until the 90s because economics only really applied to the industrialists.
Intellectually, mass appeal is more difficult to describe because these ideas that were discussed from the enlightenment were not popular until the kaiser after railways, education had come into effect and these ideas were encouraged, for example the Social Darwinism pamphlet.
Socially, the people were divided up until the Kaiser introduced Sammlungspolitik. Particularism was a very important factor in dividing the nation. This was capitalised on by Metternich who wanted to keep all of the states self interested and so the Diet was an ineffective tool for unifying the states. it encouraged them to be selfish and they were, the representatives were only concerned with the inner affairs of their own state. Bismarck employed divide and rule, so he singled out the socialists, the Catholics but the different factions were already present. For example, junkers, liberals, the minorities (Danes, Poles, French) middle class etc. Germany was unified in name only- the people did not feel 'German' until the Kaiser came along. However, his policies were supposed to unite the German people against the socialists, so whilst the German people came together under the Kasier, he encouraged the isolation of one group within Germany.

The argument is a bit of a repetitive one: mass appeal didn't come into effect until the Kaiser- unless someone fancies a debate?
I hope the turning points question comes up but, yeh, I'm very worried about curve balls especially as there was no January exams this year :-/
I do think it gets repetitive, but I think there can be a lot to be said for the impact of wars and external threats, and think the Gross/Klein debate is easier to include as well. I guess it's just one of the easier questions and the one I got highest marks in mocks so I'm hoping for myself :')
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I'd just approach this like any other factors question, its just a named factor, so political factors are things like policies so I'd talk about Foreign Policy or maybe political groups like the Navy League etc. But yeh it would be unlikely to come up again
Thank you very nervous, hoping for an economics question or turning point one
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Thank you very nervous, hoping for an economics question or turning point one
I hope It helped a little :')
I'd like a straight economic factors one but that came up in June 2012, just as long as I can talk economy, individuals and war I'm fine turning points would be good I agree still doesn't feel like it is tomorrow, feels too soon
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How did you find today then?
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