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As the title thread suggests, I would like to find out what is the point of going to University. Is it just to get a job? Is it because companies require degrees for the job positions? Why do we spend so much time (and money) learning things that are irrelevant to our jobs? Isn't it better to just setup training centres to prepare people for work, instead of going through the indirect process of University?
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Maybe because you want to expand your knowledge in a particular field, and thus become qualified to produce work in that field?
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To learn things.
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To learn more about their chosen subject.
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Pretty much so I can get a PhD and people will call me Dr :yep:
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To know more about the subject you're passion about.

Everyone has a passion, and I'm sure once they find it, they will want to know more and more to get better at it.

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For most people, because everyone else does, and because a degree has become the new 'average' for many employers. For other people, university has true value in helping you to specialise, or learn actual work skills.

I often wonder if your proposal would work better, but ultimately nobody is actually ready for work until they've had experience of doing it; a work-based 'training centre' is no more use than a university.

I do think alternatives such as apprenticeships and school leavers' programmes are hugely undervalued, though, as is just getting a job instead of going to university. It isn't for everyone, but many people are pushed into it by social and job market pressures.
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The problem with so many people now going to university is that the really clever ones have to work even harder because otherwise they could end up with the same degree mark as someone who's just jumping the required hurdles, getting it all off the internet, and little else. It used to be perfectly acceptable for geniuses to get third class degrees at Oxbridge for those who preferred extra cirricular activities. To get a second class degree suggested a mundane talent because it meant you'd actually chosen to spend time to show your worth and it had been definitively found not to be first class.
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The simple reason is to increase employability (primarily through eligibility for for graduate job programmes) and thus future earnings.

Anyone who suggests anything along the lines of "to enhance my knowledge" is kidding themselves. If you wanted to enhance your knowledge, you could do so for a relatively non-existent cost via the internet and a library card.
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I think university should be for academic study first.

And of course if you want to do medicine, engineering etc. then university is the best place for that too.

However I think that there's no middle ground anymore, which is supposed to be filled by apprenticeships and school leaver jobs. But I feel that there aren't enough of them, and they're just not as fleshed out as in other countries for example.

The result is that now a lot of students go to university, because the alternatives of apprenticeships or school leaver jobs don't seem appealing at the moment. People are just scared of getting a bad deal.

I feel that apprenticeships need to get an equal footing as university degrees, if not, I think it needs even more importance than university.
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To get educate
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(Original post by ParetoOptimum)
The simple reason is to increase employability (primarily through eligibility for for graduate job programmes) and thus future earnings.

Anyone who suggests anything along the lines of "to enhance my knowledge" is kidding themselves. If you wanted to enhance your knowledge, you could do so for a relatively non-existent cost via the internet and a library card.
Yeah but what's the point of forcing yourself to study something you hate, just for the good job prospects at the end?

And what would happen if you fail your degree, or drop out?

I think in the end, it's better if people study what they're genuinely interested in, and of course consider career prospects as well. But I don't think career prospects need to be the main focus of why you're studying at university.

If I really wanted to secure a job for a long period of my life, I would go into an apprenticeship or school leaver programme and work my ass off.
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Why do we need a justification? If someone wants to go to university, then that's their decision to make. They'd be entirely misguided to think that it will inherently grant them higher employability status though.

Of course the value of a university education is still evident for courses such as medicine, engineering, and other such vocational degrees. For the rest of us in the arts - and to some extent the straight sciences - going to university is about two things:
1. Gaining a thorough, in-depth education in a field we love from skilled academics in said field.
2. Experiencing the "university life" - and I don't mean the nightlife, I mean the extracurricular activities, skill-building and connection-making that goes on while students are at uni.

The students of today must accept that degrees are losing their value; they are no longer all-purpose qualifications that instantly qualify you as a "skilled and educated worker". Students must find their own value from a university education, in whatever way they see fit.
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(Original post by 1drowssap)
As the title thread suggests, I would like to find out what is the point of going to University. Is it just to get a job? (...)
I think so indeed! I can't hardly imagine for myself that people are going to university just to 'create' an intellectual personality. Most of them do that to have a good basis to start a career.
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i'm going to university to get the freedom required to take my crystal meth addiction to the next level
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