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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...stand-off.html

The ex- chairman governor of an Islamic school has provoked a stand-off with police and the local council by unlawfully hiring unauthorised security guards to close off the school to government officials.

He does not agree with the Department of Education decision to dismiss him and the Board of Governors for gross incompetence and financial mismanagement, and is using physical force to resist the lawful change of management.

It appears the former Chairman, Waseem Yaqub, has not adapted to the customs and laws of his new country, and is operating according to the mores of where he has come from; that is, that if you disagree with a government decision, you can use physical force rather than the ballot box.

This is part of a worrying trend of Islamic schools using force and intimidation to block lawful investigations by state authorities, and this Mr Yaqub is heavily linked to the "Operation Trojan" group that has been targeting state schools in the area. These people appear to have little to no respect for the rule of law, and the customs and traditions of the country they have moved to, and simply demand to be able to compel Britain to accede to their demands.
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That's just taking it too far, they should be closed down.
If there ever needed to be an argument for banning faith schools, this is it. Though all the Christian schools I've been to are fine... only faith schools shoukd be Church of England
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...stand-off.html

The ex- chairman governor of an Islamic school has provoked a stand-off with police and the local council by unlawfully hiring unauthorised security guards to close off the school to government officials.

He does not agree with the Department of Education decision to dismiss him and the Board of Governors for gross incompetence and financial mismanagement, and is using physical force to resist the lawful change of management.

It appears the former Chairman, Waseem Yaqub, has not adapted to the customs and laws of his new country, and is operating according to the mores of where he has come from; that is, that if you disagree with a government decision, you can use physical force rather than the ballot box.

This is part of a worrying trend of Islamic schools using force and intimidation to block lawful investigations by state authorities, and this Mr Yaqub is heavily linked to the "Operation Trojan" group that has been targeting state schools in the area. These people appear to have little to no respect for the rule of law, and the customs and traditions of the country they have moved to, and simply demand to be able to compel Britain to accede to their demands.
I don't see anything wrong with Islamic schools as we allow catholic and Christian schools, but when they disobey the law they're basically taking away their own privileges.


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I'd add that this is the second time in as many weeks that an Islamic school has physically prevented state officials from going about their business in the inspection, oversight or management of a school.

At the Olive Tree Primary School a week ago, the parents (under direction from the teachers) chased Ofsted inspectors away from the school after the inspectors probed to determine whether the school was teaching homophobic prejudice to the children. Following that schools physical obstruction of Ofsted officials, a report revealed that this primary school's library was stocked with books that advocated the stoning of women!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-women.html

We have made enough concessions to these people. We have scraped and bowed, doffed our caps and tugged our forelocks and turned the other cheek, but enough is enough.
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
I'd add that this is the second time in as many weeks that an Islamic school has physically prevented state officials from going about their business in the inspection, oversight or management of a school.

At the Olive Tree Primary School a week ago, the parents (under direction from the teachers) chased Ofsted inspectors away from the school after the inspectors probed to determine whether the school was teaching homophobic prejudice to the children. Following that schools physical obstruction of Ofsted officials, a report revealed that this primary school's library was stocked with books that advocated the stoning of women!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-women.html

We have made enough concessions to these people. We have scraped and bowed, doffed our caps and tugged our forelocks and turned the other cheek, but enough is enough.
Fair enough, this is pretty bad. But it does seem prejudiced to stop Islam schools because of a minority of extremist cases, so for fairness' sake I think we should close all faith schools. They aren't good for anything except causing this sort of tension.
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They should get rid of faith schools but in particular this one and others similar


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Muslim schools should be banned. Muslims should not and cannot be trusted to teach their own children.
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I don't see anything wrong with Islamic schools as we allow catholic and Christian schools, but when they disobey the law they're basically taking away their own privileges.


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Catholic and Christian schools do not break the law like Islamic schools. Catholic and Christian schools are not hate mongers unlike Islamic schools

islamic schools are evil and should be abolished
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They should get rid of faith schools but in particular this one and others similar
What's extraordinary is that even in the most slam-dunk cases of extreme Islamic fundamentalism being preached in schools, of anti-gay bigotry and the stoning of women being taught to children, of financial mismanagement and the utterly justified sacking of the board of governors by Ofsted, some people have accused me of being "anti-Islamic", a "bigot" and a "BNP member" merely for raising it.

Tbh, if the mainstream of Islam is going to defend an absolute lost cause and indefensible case like this one, they are going to profoundly damage their credibility
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Catholic and Christian schools do not break the law like Islamic schools. Catholic and Christian schools are not hate mongers unlike Islamic schools

islamic schools are evil and should be abolished
Although there are many Islamic schools that do break the law, not ALL of them do it. They should shut down the ones that break the law and allow the law abiding ones to continue.
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Although there are many Islamic schools that do break the law, not ALL of them do it. They should shut down the ones that break the law and allow the law abiding ones to continue.
Muslims make up a tiny percentage of the population yet we are constantly hearing about Islamic schools teaching violence, hate and bullying non muslim staff etc etc.

i believe that this scratches the surface only and muslims schools should be abolished
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That's just taking it too far, they should be closed down.
If there ever needed to be an argument for banning faith schools, this is it. Though all the Christian schools I've been to are fine... only faith schools shoukd be Church of England
That's because the Church of England doesn't really take belief very seriously any more. They were put in their place years (centuries) ago.
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Catholic and Christian schools do not break the law like Islamic schools. Catholic and Christian schools are not hate mongers unlike Islamic schools
A penchant for kiddy fiddling doesn't count?
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Muslim schools should be banned. Muslims should not and cannot be trusted to teach their own children.
Why? so other religions do but muslims dont. Do they have an infectious disease or is it your irrational fear of muslim's
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honestly you people go to uni and are fed too much of this leaders of the future nonsense. stop worrying about some other religion and 1/2 schools which you have nothing except an artivle to go on.

let me tell you normal goverment schools are educated millions of kids into stupidity, please worry about this. why so are you so nosey?

your avatar and name gives a good impression, a pompous upper class person from somewhere in england where their is little to no muslim presence but he seems to be able to know everything thats going on from birmingham and london to the inside of a mosque.
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Religion has no place in main stream education imo. If you want your child to learn in a heavily religious environment: homeschool.
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(Original post by Skip_Snip)
That's just taking it too far, they should be closed down.
If there ever needed to be an argument for banning faith schools, this is it. Though all the Christian schools I've been to are fine... only faith schools shoukd be Church of England
Why should only church of England schools be allowed?; You've never been to any Muslim or Hindu or Sikh schools, so why are you judging them. If anything this is the government's fault for allowing this crazy person to be installed into this position. Bad thing's happen regardless of religion such as:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11656123
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hichester.html
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...stand-off.html

The ex- chairman governor of an Islamic school has provoked a stand-off with police and the local council by unlawfully hiring unauthorised security guards to close off the school to government officials.

He does not agree with the Department of Education decision to dismiss him and the Board of Governors for gross incompetence and financial mismanagement, and is using physical force to resist the lawful change of management.

It appears the former Chairman, Waseem Yaqub, has not adapted to the customs and laws of his new country, and is operating according to the mores of where he has come from; that is, that if you disagree with a government decision, you can use physical force rather than the ballot box.

This is part of a worrying trend of Islamic schools using force and intimidation to block lawful investigations by state authorities, and this Mr Yaqub is heavily linked to the "Operation Trojan" group that has been targeting state schools in the area. These people appear to have little to no respect for the rule of law, and the customs and traditions of the country they have moved to, and simply demand to be able to compel Britain to accede to their demands.
Don't you think its the government's fault after all they were awarded outstanding by ofsted. Worrying trend ... proof one or two schools does not make a "trend".
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Religion has no place in main stream education imo. If you want your child to learn in a heavily religious environment: homeschool.
Religious school's are not mainstream though and provide a service for parents who choose to send their kids to one.
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