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    On August 15th was published the Academic Ranking of World Universities 2006, which is published every year by the Institute of Higher Education of Shanghai.

    This is the top 10 for the UK:

    1 Univ Cambridge
    2 Univ Oxford
    3 Imperial Coll London
    4 Univ Coll London
    5 Univ Manchester
    6 Univ Edinburgh
    7 Univ Bristol
    8 Univ Sheffield
    9 Univ Nottingham
    10 King's Coll London

    http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm
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    This is fake. where is LSE and Warwick?
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    I have looked at the rankings and their methodology which appears to me to be very heavily biased towards the sciences. They also seem to equate quality of education with numbers of nobel prize winners. This I believe to be an inappropriate measure of quality of education. Thus if some of their rankings are base on unfounded assumptions, IMO it makes the overall results very suspect.

    I also believe that if they base their measures on the basis of numbers of illustrious allumni then it may demonstrate that a university may have been very good in the past, or have a long history but it may not accurately reflect the current situation. A newer university or a smaller specialist university like the LSE or Warwick may not appear on the list if they have a shorter history or do not specialise in science. Clearly this must lead to misleading statistics.
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    You need an option in your poll for 'Don't particularly care'.
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    Haha, I like it purely on the basis that it seems to be the only league table that likes my university.
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    according the the european table, LSE is jsut a bit behind southampton and leicester.

    durham is above east anglia, by one place.

    warrick and york are actually at the bottom, below everywhere else on that list.
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    What do u think of the places of sheffield and manchester???

    I think these rankings take into account research and publications, as well as science subjects and nobel prize winners. Maybe that's the reason LSE is at the bottom...

    But in general I think that the ranking is quite accurate. They have many U.S unis at the top, harvard, yale, MIT, Columbia.
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    lol, it's a load of twaddle. Having said that, woot good to see Bristol up there where it belongs!
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    These rankings seem very flawed, mainly on the basis of the methodology...as pointed out before, they are very biaised towards the science, and also towards the research aspect of the universities - a very important aspect of universities, true, but it means that these rankings are unreliable when judging quality of teaching and the like.
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    League tables can only really be taken as a very general guide because depending on the criteria you choose and the weighting you give each factor, so you get completely different results. You only have to compare the Times and Guardian league tables to see that.

    I believe that our league tables are better on the teaching quality taking into account such factors as spend per student, staff/student ratios and inspection reports. These seem to be better indcators. Though in the Guardian league tables, I have always had my doubts about 'inclusivity' being a valid factor in assessing the quality and ranking of a university. Inclusivity is too vague a concept and means different things to different people. While increased inclusivity might be a noble aim and socially desirable, just because a university is good for mature students or has excellent disabled access, it doesn't really affect how good an institution is for able bodied 18 year olds. These factors are only releveant for particular groups of people. Just like overseas students might rate a university on its closeness to an airport or poor students might rate a university for the cost of living.

    Great alumni and Nobel prizes may only have an indirect effect on undergraduate teaching.
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    Thats complete arse rubbish
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    I usually totally disregard the Shanghai rankings as theyre a joke tbh - any table which claims to rank universities and yet almost totally ignores disciplines such as social sciences, humanities etc deserves no real attention. Look at the THES world rankings which are infinitely more balanced.
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    You've missed 'Who gives a **** about LSE" off your poll
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    I tried to find the THES world rankings but you have to subscribe on their website to see it. I did find a picture of the ranking list on The Times' website as they posted an article on it.

    http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/pic...,157854,00.jpg

    It doesn't seem that great. Surely Harvard isn't 8 times better than Durham? The gap between #1 and #20 is huge, way higher than the same gap in the UK tables. It's strange considering many countries must have great unis.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...343946,00.html

    The article that goes with it. Seems the table is from 2004.
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    All the ranking systems are flawed and over-simplistic by their very nature or they would be so heinously complex that they would never get compiled. Personally I would pay little attention to them. I find giving unis top points for nobel laureates but not any other international prizes (such as the Field's Medal) is quite ridiculous as you are bound to favour those institutions that have strong science faculties.
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    This the ranking for the Political Science departments, by Simon Hix an LSE researcher, and published by the Political Studies Association.

    Global Ranking
    15 LSE
    16 Essex
    19 Oxford
    22 Birmingham
    23 Cambridge
    25 Sheffield
    34 Bristol
    37 Cardiff
    39 Aberystwyth
    46 UCL
    63 Hull
    71 Warwick

    www.politicalstudies.org/pdf/psr/hix.pdf

    I think it's really difficult to rank universities, because every uni has its strong and weak departments.
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    (Original post by jorgee19)
    This is the link for the THES world rankings 2005.

    It's quite accurate!!!
    (Original post by jorgee19)
    I think it's really difficult to rank universities, because every uni has its strong and weak departments.
    Erm, how can you say the THES table is quite accurate and then say it is difficult to rank universities? The THES table has plenty of flaws in it by way of oversimplification too.
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    I mean it was quite accurate, but in relation with the shanghai ranking.

    However, I still believe it is really difficult to rank universities.
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    You've missed 'Who gives a **** about LSE" off your poll
    hehe :p:
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    I like it because my uni ranked #2
 
 
 
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