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SPS at Cambridge

Because this course is quite specific to Cambridge, is it ok to apply using a personal statement for Politics rather than having to include the aspects studied in your first year? eg Sociology, Development Psychology ect..

The obvious problem is that its difficult to write a personal statement for this and to apply for Politics only courses at other institutions.
Reply 1
I'd advise using the politics personal statement general, and then using the CAF personal statement for the SPS-specific bits.
Reply 2
Thanks alot, that what I was hoping someone would suggest, my only concern was that it may sounds that you lack enthusiasm for certain areas because you included them on the CAF PS. Thanks again :smile:
Reply 3
If you're aiming for Cambridge in particular it'd be worth asking an Oxbridge specialist in a careers service. I spoke to the head of Oxbridge applications in my college and he was really helpful, because they look for that something more at Oxford and Cambridge.
Reply 4
If you're aiming for Cambridge in particular it'd be worth asking an Oxbridge specialist in a careers service. I spoke to the head of Oxbridge applications in my college and he was really helpful, because they look for that something more at Oxford and Cambridge.


Thanks, I dont have a specific oxbridge careers advisor but my head of Sixth Form did graduate through Oxford so I expect he will be very knowledgeable on the process, I will definately look into that. Alternatively, do you know of any advisors I can find either in public places and/or online?
Reply 5
i applied for SPS and i've not done sociology or psychology. I got in nevertheless.

My personal statement was the most difficult thing i've ever written - i applied for SPS, development economics, economics & politics, social policy & economics (thats about 4-5 different disciplines) elsewhere at other universities. I brought in my work experience etc into it which was related to politics and thats about all i wrote on politics! I also brought some sociology into it by saying something about Anthony Giddens, but i made no mention of psychology.

I also didnt use any paragraphs at all on my personal statement - as i wanted to write as much as possible - i don't know if thats good or not!

I used the CAF form to re-enforce what i'd said before, but i also added: Why i want to go to cambridge (i.e. to develop my ideas) and what i can offer to cambridge (why they should accept me).
Reply 6
i applied for SPS and i've not done sociology or psychology. I got in nevertheless.

My personal statement was the most difficult thing i've ever written - i applied for SPS, development economics, economics & politics, social policy & economics (thats about 4-5 different disciplines) elsewhere at other universities. I brought in my work experience etc into it which was related to politics and thats about all i wrote on politics! I also brought some sociology into it by saying something about Anthony Giddens, but i made no mention of psychology.

I also didnt use any paragraphs at all on my personal statement - as i wanted to write as much as possible - i don't know if thats good or not!

I used the CAF form to re-enforce what i'd said before, but i also added: Why i want to go to cambridge (i.e. to develop my ideas) and what i can offer to cambridge (why they should accept me).


haha, wow that sounds like a challenge. Thanks for the advice on the CAF form, I think I will try and use it for a similar purpose. I would generally assume a personal statement has to be pretty outstanding?
Reply 7
tomdav
haha, wow that sounds like a challenge. Thanks for the advice on the CAF form, I think I will try and use it for a similar purpose. I would generally assume a personal statement has to be pretty outstanding?


It was a challenge! I asked just about everyone and anyone to review it for me and tell me what they thought of it.

Well a personal statement should reflect why you want to go into a particular field & what you have to offer. At least, i wrote all this in mine. I wrote about why i want to do the course, what i want to do later on in life, how i think this field will help me achieve my goal, my extra-curricular stuff/work experience, showed instances where i received certificates (for whatever), how i participated in college life, what makes me the ideal candidate to do the course i want to do, the skills i have to offer. And mentioned a book somehow - i cant remember how i blended that in. I also showed i could work on my own initiative - by carrying out independent projects (without the help of a tutor).
Reply 8
It was a challenge! I asked just about everyone and anyone to review it for me and tell me what they thought of it.

Well a personal statement should reflect why you want to go into a particular field & what you have to offer. At least, i wrote all this in mine. I wrote about why i want to do the course, what i want to do later on in life, how i think this field will help me achieve my goal, my extra-curricular stuff/work experience, showed instances where i received certificates (for whatever), how i participated in college life, what makes me the ideal candidate to do the course i want to do, the skills i have to offer. And mentioned a book somehow - i cant remember how i blended that in. I also showed i could work on my own initiative - by carrying out independent projects (without the help of a tutor).


Thanks for the help! My only other real concern is that my UMS marks for AS are;

History; 251 A
English Lit; 259 A
English Lang; 258 A(although my cwk got modded down 10 marks so it could do up)
General studies; 270 A
Business; 237 B

I know on the CAF you have to specify your module grades, will these UMS points be high enough? Especially as my two history exams were both at a B, my coursework got me into an A.

Also with SPS surely they have to take a spread of Politics, Psychology and Sociology enthusiasts, is this true? Thanks again :biggrin:
Reply 9
tomdav, I'm as wise as you are but I would imagine that whether your UMS marks are high enough will be judged in relation to the calibre of the other applicants in your year.

While the fact Cambridge asks for the modular UMS marks suggests that they are used as a tool for judging applicants, remember that many other factors are also important (such as your personal statement, interview performance, reference, predictions &c.) in deciding whether or not to make a candidate an offer.

The instructions for applicants information on the AS/A Level Unit Sheet says:

"If you are taking AS and A levels please complete this form so we know which units you have taken, which units you are currently studying towards and which units you are planning to retake. You should enter the UMS scores you have received for all completed units (both last year and this) below. Please note that UMS scores should be listed for each sitting of the unit and regardless of whether or not you have certificated or retaken the unit. Units should be listed by subject rather than by date taken. In addition please enter details of the units that you are currently studying towards/planning to take overleaf. If you are applying post-A level you should also record your unit marks in the appropriate section.

[We appreciate that in some schools/colleges early units are done only for practice and indicate little about eventual performance.]"
Reply 10
tomdav, I'm as wise as you are but I would imagine that whether your UMS marks are high enough will be judged in relation to the calibre of the other applicants in your year.

While the fact Cambridge asks for the modular UMS marks suggests that they are used as a tool for judging applicants, remember that many other factors are also important (such as your personal statement, interview performance, reference, predictions &c.) in deciding whether or not to make a candidate an offer.

The instructions for applicants information on the AS/A Level Unit Sheet says:

"If you are taking AS and A levels please complete this form so we know which units you have taken, which units you are currently studying towards and which units you are planning to retake. You should enter the UMS scores you have received for all completed units (both last year and this) below. Please note that UMS scores should be listed for each sitting of the unit and regardless of whether or not you have certificated or retaken the unit. Units should be listed by subject rather than by date taken. In addition please enter details of the units that you are currently studying towards/planning to take overleaf. If you are applying post-A level you should also record your unit marks in the appropriate section.

[We appreciate that in some schools/colleges early units are done only for practice and indicate little about eventual performance.]"


Ahh thanks Lottie, I saw your history and politics thread so I would assume that you are applying to Oxbridge as well? Good luck if thats the case.
Reply 11
I think so.

I've not yet visited Oxford yet (but am going next month - eeeee! ) but I absolutely adored Cambridge when I stayed there for a few days during the Sixth Form Law Conference. Pending my experiences at the open day, I'll decide which one to apply to. I love the course at Oxford but Cambridge's History course doesn't sound half bad either (and, of course, there are those wonderful tripos transfers for the indecisive like me) so I'm going to make the final decision in a few weeks. Oxford is the frontrunner at the moment though. I just wish it didn't have the pesky HAT!

Where else are you applying for Politics?

And, if you apply to King's College for SPS, you could have a supermodel in your supervisions! :biggrin: (Lily Cole has a place - deferred entry - for 2007.)
Reply 12
I think so.

I've not yet visited Oxford yet (but am going next month - eeeee!
) but I absolutely adored Cambridge when I stayed there for a few days during the Sixth Form Law Conference. Pending my experiences at the open day, I'll decide which one to apply to. I love the course at Oxford but Cambridge's History course doesn't sound half bad either (and, of course, there are those wonderful tripos transfers for the indecisive like me) so I'm going to make the final decision in a few weeks. Oxford is the frontrunner at the moment though. I just wish it didn't have the pesky HAT!

Where else are you applying for Politics?

And, if you apply to King's College for SPS, you could have a supermodel in your supervisions! (Lily Cole has a place - deferred entry - for 2007.

I dont dare travel into London im afraid :wink: As for my other applications I was thinking;

Cambridge SPS, Exeter, Lancaster, Warwick, York and 'somewhere else' What about you?

Im glad you like Cambridge, I was thinking of going for Selwyn college, sounds quite nice there so I might give it a go. Have you got a college in mind?
Reply 13
I'm avoiding London too so I'm currently looking at applying to Durham, Manchester, Oxford or Cambridge, Swansea and Warwick.

Aberystwyth was my sixth choice but I'm re-thinking it as, on a thread I posted in the History sub-forum, people think I should "aim higher". I'm also not sure if I'd be happy at the university though the course looks wonderful. I thought about replacing it with Birmingham but I need to look into that a little bit more. Any suggestions?

Ooh! Selwyn was pointed out to me by a third year lawyer during the Law Conference. I think he regretted not applying there as he could simply have rolled out of bed five minutes before lectures began and still arrived at the Law Faculty with time to spare. It seems conveniently located by the Sidgwick Site and looks rather pretty!

I stayed at St Catz and liked it so, if I go down the Cambridge route, I'll most likely end up applying there. King's, Trinity, St John's, etc. were too grand for me. After my ten days at Eton Summer School in a house with just girls, I wouldn't even mind Newnham though it's not exactly my preference. (I only mentioned my reasoning for this in case you thought I was a) phobic of men, b) misandrist - I don't even know if that is a word - or c) planning on becoming a nun.)

As for Oxford, I've not got a feel for the place yet but I'm going to Balliol on the open day. I'm also interested in Wadham. As I've not been to Oxford, I'm not really bothered at which college I end up in. Will work out which one is equidistant from the shops and relevant faculty buildings and apply there... :p:
Reply 14
HAHA yeh I heard about the Newham Nun thing. I was also thinking of Jesus or Fitzwilliam, its so hard to choose. I hope you have a really good time at Oxford (im sure you will). I was abit worried about my choices, do I dare use Durham as my other choice when I could so easily be rejected from Cam, Warwick, York even with a good application...its abit of a risk which I might have to chat to my teachers about. If only my GCSEs were better lol. If not Durham i will probably try Sheffield
Reply 15
They don't expect you to be equally interested in all 4 areas of SPS, most people drop 3 at the end of the first year and never study them again or only take one paper. I made no mention of Psychology or Social Anthropology on my PS. I didn't write a thing on my CAF extra space :smile:

And lectures for SPS don't happen on Sidgwick site so Selwyn isn't all that close!
Reply 16
Haha yeh I got the map out yesterday and realisation of location struck, hence Ive decided on a college which I liked more and seems to be more conveniently located :biggrin:
Reply 17
Does anybody know how to write a personal statement for SPS for Cam uni?