The Top 100 Global Universities by Newsweek Watch

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1. Harvard University
2. Stanford University
3. Yale University
4. California Institute of Technology
5. University of California at Berkeley
6. University of Cambridge
7. Massachusetts Institute Technology
8. Oxford University
9. University of California at San Francisco
10. Columbia University
11. University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
12. University of California at Los Angeles
13. University of Pennsylvania
14. Duke University
15. Princeton Universitty
16. Tokyo University
17. Imperial College London
18. University of Toronto
19. Cornell University
20. University of Chicago
21. Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich
22. University of Washington at Seattle
23. University of California at San Diego
24. Johns Hopkins University
25. University College London
26. Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne
27. University Texas at Austin
28. University of Wisconsin at Madison
29. Kyoto University
30. University of Minnesota Twin Cities
31. University of British Columbia
32. University of Geneva
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. London School of Economics
35. Northwestern University
36. National University of Singapore
37. University of Pittsburgh
38. Australian National University
39. New York University
40. Pennsylvania State University


We evaluated schools on some of the measures used in well-known rankings published by Shanghai Jiaotong University and the Times of London Higher Education Survey. Fifty percent of the score came from equal parts of three measures used by Shanghai Jiatong: the number of highly-cited researchers in various academic fields, the number of articles published in Nature and Science, and the number of articles listed in the ISI Social Sciences and Arts & Humanities indices. Another 40 percent of the score came from equal parts of four measures used by the Times: the percentage of international faculty, the percentage of international students, citations per faculty member (using ISI data), and the ratio of faculty to students. The final 10 percent came from library holdings (number of volumes).
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Nobody gives two ****s about these tables. The fact that 10% of the scores comes from library holdings is simply utterly laughable, eg. places like Cambridge and Oxford would have an apparent advantage over somewhere like UCL in terms of holdings, but then that wouldn't bother me at all since I have the British Library at my doorstep. These guys are complete morons - you get more marks for having more international students? Twits!
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Why all this hate AI?

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Rankings don't mean much.. they try to generlise different education styles and advantages and do not take into account how different students would benefit. Sure the UK schools need money (HINT HINT TONY IRAQ BLAIR Start the right reforms), but they still cater a world class education.
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IMO, Ratings may be useful as a general overview of where's reasonably good (i.e. the top twenty are probably going to have a good rep with employers and attract the strongest students) but really, it's what you're prepared to put into a degree, how much you enjoy your course, and what else you do at your university that's going to make it good or bad for you. Just because a bunch of irrelevant journalists and pollsters think it's a good place to study doesn't guarantee its students a happy, successful or fulfilled life.
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Newsweek?
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I'm highly doubtful as to the validity of the Shanghai Jiaotong ratings myself, but isn't it still a good feeling to see UCL up there on spot 25 either way?

Especially when annoying relatives ask things like "UCL- never heard of it!"" I can smugly reply "it's been ranked 25th in the world, you know! Mwhaha!".

Or something along those lines...
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(Original post by FarEastGerman)
I'm highly doubtful as to the validity of the Shanghai Jiaotong ratings myself, but isn't it still a good feeling to see UCL up there on spot 25 either way?

Especially when annoying relatives ask things like "UCL- never heard of it!"" I can smugly reply "it's been ranked 25th in the world, you know! Mwhaha!".

Or something along those lines...
diito...though i do think that shanghai ranking methodology makes sense. the U.S. News and World Report rankings which rank the Unis in the U.S. (top spots in which are coveted and minor fluctuations can cause hysteria) uses some stupid methodology about drop out rates and retention, it doesn't take into consideration anything about what the school produces in terms of research which in the end is what really counts. if the school can produce good research, the school itself passes that knowledge down to the students i.e. good teaching
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Seems like people never like rankings in which their university is not in the top 10.

I don't care, my undergraduate university is #2
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If you want a good university ranking use the THES 2005.
the above one is a load of *******s.
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(Original post by guccilittlepiggy)
If you want a good university ranking use the THES 2005.
the above one is a load of *******s.
Ha, I think the THES 2005 is the one full of s##t.
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If it were possible to average out all the major tables there might be some truth in the result...
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You have to take these tables with a lot of salt.

The richer American Universities attract a big amount of students on financial merit and not intellectual ability, or even character/work ethic/etc.

Not to mention an individual course, or even your PhD supervisor, will not neccesarily mirror the ranking of the university.

Daft.
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(Original post by guvno0or)

The richer American Universities attract a big amount of students on financial merit and not intellectual ability, or even character/work ethic/etc.
How the hell would you know about that?
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(Original post by guvno0or)
You have to take these tables with a lot of salt.

The richer American Universities attract a big amount of students on financial merit and not intellectual ability, or even character/work ethic/etc.

Not to mention an individual course, or even your PhD supervisor, will not neccesarily mirror the ranking of the university.

Daft.
Do British people tell themselves this lie to make them feel better about the fact that US universities dominate these tables?

Students at top US universities are as qualified and intelligent as students at their peer institutions in the UK. Stanford has an established study abroad program at Oxford, and time and time again, lecturers and tutors told us how impressed they were with the quality of Stanford students.

It's very insulting and quite untrue. Besides the fact that the top US universities have need-blind admissions, they don't even know whether or not you are wealthy in the decision making process.
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Well, exactly. Time and again on this website, I read the opinions of people with manifestly no experience of the United States who seem to believe that their pronouncements a. are interesting and b. carry some authority.
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(Original post by shady lane)
Do British people tell themselves this lie to make them feel better about the fact that US universities dominate these tables?

Students at top US universities are as qualified and intelligent as students at their peer institutions in the UK. Stanford has an established study abroad program at Oxford, and time and time again, lecturers and tutors told us how impressed they were with the quality of Stanford students.

It's very insulting and quite untrue. Besides the fact that the top US universities have need-blind admissions, they don't even know whether or not you are wealthy in the decision making process.
The top US colleges are a mix of the brightest and the most influential is what i've heard.
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Do British people tell themselves this lie to make them feel better about the fact that US universities dominate these tables?

Students at top US universities are as qualified and intelligent as students at their peer institutions in the UK. Stanford has an established study abroad program at Oxford, and time and time again, lecturers and tutors told us how impressed they were with the quality of Stanford students.

It's very insulting and quite untrue. Besides the fact that the top US universities have need-blind admissions, they don't even know whether or not you are wealthy in the decision making process.
Why should that be a factor anyway? I never remember people wanting to know my parents income any time during applying for a place at university, apart from when I was applying for my Student Loan, which has nothing to do eith the admissions process. I don't see your exact point here, but perhaps I am missing something, however from cousins' experience of American Universities (one went to Cornell, the other went to somewhere ordinary like Michigan), they say that the system isn't as black and white as people make it out to be, ie. a hefty donation to the right school/organisation can do wonders at helping you get into your preferred university, and the cousin had Cornell's friend got in through that route, ie. his parents donated rather a large sum. I don't really see/hear about that sort of thing happening in this country, although I do remember reading how Lakshmi Mittal (the richest man in the UK) tried to bribe LSE with a huge donation to get his daughter in. Still, I guess that's only one case.
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you doth protest too much!
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(Original post by shady lane)
Do British people tell themselves this lie to make them feel better about the fact that US universities dominate these tables?

Students at top US universities are as qualified and intelligent as students at their peer institutions in the UK. Stanford has an established study abroad program at Oxford, and time and time again, lecturers and tutors told us how impressed they were with the quality of Stanford students.

It's very insulting and quite untrue. Besides the fact that the top US universities have need-blind admissions, they don't even know whether or not you are wealthy in the decision making process.
So you are honestly telling me that in the American system you don't have a problem with the fees, whereby you get a higher intake of lesser able students due to the fact that they can afford the fees whilst good students with less money cannot?

Disagree if you like, but the fact is that your warped extreme capatalistic system skews your university intake.
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