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Should I claim extenuating circumstances?

Anon because this post contains very sensitive, personal information.

I have an older brother who has problems with his mental health. He takes medication to prevent psychotic episodes from occuring.

Back in November, he had a very bad psychotic episode. He got very violent.
He beat my mother and I up (he's a lot older than me and very strong) and I ended up with a very swollen bruised face and a bleeding nose. The police got involved, and they came in just as he was beating me- I dont know what would have happened if the police hadn't stopped him.

I know it's not his fault- it happened due to his mental health problems- normally he wouldn't even hurt a fly.

But since then, I find myself having a lot of bad dreams about it, and sometimes in the middle of the day I randomly remember it happening again with no prompt- like I'll just be in a middle of a chemistry lesson and all of a sudden I see him punching me in my head or I see his facial expression from that night.

It's very annoying and when I remember things like that it really affects my concentration, and I get very nervous and paranoid when he's at home- I put my house keys in my pocket at all times just in case it ever happens again so my mother and I can escape the house. Sometimes I couldnt concentrate on my revision or homework properly until I knew he was asleep or he was out of the house.
Nobody knows about this happening except for my family. My school are aware that I have an older brother who is ill, but they don't know the nature of his illnesses, and they certainly don't know about that event in november.

I'm currently in year 13- I'm actually resitting the year after bad grades last year (I had mild depression and missed a lot of school). I've tried so so hard this year, and I've done well in most of my mock exams, and I have been trying to revise as much as I can for my A-Levels.

Should I tell someone about how I feel & ask for extenuating circumstances? Or am I being whiney and need to suck it up?


If I miss the grades I need for my university offer this year.... I really don't know what to do. I need to move away from home and study something I like. I can't afford to miss the grades again.
Please advise. It would be appreciated a lot.

Thanks
You're not being whiney at all, I'm so sorry you had to go through that! Mental illness is a terrible thing to have to live with.

Fortunately I've never had to deal with a psychotic episode myself, but from my understanding they are very scary and you've done very well continuing with education smoothly, I would definitely ask about extenuating circumstances in your situation and see if anything can be done, you don't have anything to lose by trying.

Also, if all else fails and you don't get into your uni of choice there is always clearing, I know it's probably not an option you want to consider (I know I don't) but it's an option.

Also, out of interest have you been getting any help yourself following the incident? Counselling might seem scary but they're generally very nice and good with helping people cope, especially with you having nightmares and flashbacks, or maybe talk to a friend or adult you trust? The issue with extenuating circumstances is they can't be given without evidence a lot of the time, so going to the doctor and seeing if you can get a doctors note might be best.

Also, not wanting to sound intrusive you're welcome to inbox me any time if you want! I hope everything works out for you. :smile:
I know you're not asking this, but:
Are you getting help for this? It seems to me that from your post, you have issues relating to your bother's illness.
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Original post by CallMeBatwoman
You're not being whiney at all, I'm so sorry you had to go through that! Mental illness is a terrible thing to have to live with.

Fortunately I've never had to deal with a psychotic episode myself, but from my understanding they are very scary and you've done very well continuing with education smoothly, I would definitely ask about extenuating circumstances in your situation and see if anything can be done, you don't have anything to lose by trying.

Also, if all else fails and you don't get into your uni of choice there is always clearing, I know it's probably not an option you want to consider (I know I don't) but it's an option.

Also, out of interest have you been getting any help yourself following the incident? Counselling might seem scary but they're generally very nice and good with helping people cope, especially with you having nightmares and flashbacks, or maybe talk to a friend or adult you trust? The issue with extenuating circumstances is they can't be given without evidence a lot of the time, so going to the doctor and seeing if you can get a doctors note might be best.

Also, not wanting to sound intrusive you're welcome to inbox me any time if you want! I hope everything works out for you. :smile:


Thank you for your reply :smile:

Unfortunately the course I have applied for is too competitive for clearing, so if I miss the grades I would have to study something different, which I really don't want to do.

No help- my mother is one of those people who refuses to acknowledge that these things have an effect on people, so if I did go to the doctor about something I would have to conceal it from my mother. Which leads me to extenuating circumstances- if I did claim them, how would I go about it, and does a parent need to be involved? I don't want anyone else to know. There isn't really anyone I can talk to about this...
I still have the ambulance report from that night detailing my injuries, given to me by the paramedic. Would that suffice as evidence?
I really don't know what to do...
Reply 4
Original post by OU Student
I know you're not asking this, but:
Are you getting help for this? It seems to me that from your post, you have issues relating to your bother's illness.


I'm not. I didn't really think I need it. It's not too bad to deal with and I'm sure over time it should go right? My brother is the one who needs help the most really so I don't think my mother would be happy with me getting any help either
Reply 5
Original post by CallMeBatwoman
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Original post by Anonymous

I still have the ambulance report from that night detailing my injuries, given to me by the paramedic. Would that suffice as evidence?
I really don't know what to do...



^ actually, forget that. I just checked my room and I can't find it. I must have thrown it away when I cleared out my room at new year.
Ahh I know what you mean about competitive courses! Mine is almost always full so the pressure is on. :eek:

I'm sorry to hear that, my mum is similar and I know it would be hard to go behind your mum's back but this is in your best interest.
To give you an idea if what you might get (if you do apply) here's a list I found detailing what qualifies for what level of consideration:

5% This is the maximum allowance and will be reserved for the most exceptional cases, such as:
terminal illness of the candidate;
terminal illness of a parent/guardian/carer;
recent death of a member of the immediate family;
serious and disruptive domestic crises leading to acute anxiety about the family.

4% Very serious problems such as:
incapacitating illness of candidate or member of immediate family;
major surgery at or near the time of the examination;
severe disease;
severe car accident;
recent death of member of extended family;
severe or permanent bodily injury occurring at the time of the examinations;
domestic crisis at time of examinations.

3% A more common category, many more cases will fall into this group, including:
recent traumatic experience such as death of a close friend or distant relative;
recent illness of a more serious nature;
flare-up of severe congenital conditions such as epilepsy, diabetes, severe asthmatic attack;
recently broken limbs;
organ disease;
physical assault trauma before an examination;
recent domestic crisis;
witnessing a distressing event on day of examination.

2% Probably the most common category of allowance.
The majority of cases might fall within this category:
minor illness at the time of the assessment;
broken limb on the mend;
recent viral illness;
concussion;
effects of pregnancy (not pregnancy per se);
hay fever on the day of an examination;
extreme distress on day of examination;
allowance on last paper taken in a day when candidate has exceeded 5 hours 30 minutes at GCSE or 6 hours at AS/A Level.

1% Reserved for more minor problems:
noise during examination which is more than momentary;
illness of another candidate in examination room;
stress or anxiety for which medication has been prescribed;
minor ailments;
headache;
minor upset arising from administration problems, such as wrong time allocated.

0% Consideration was given but the addition of marks was considered inappropriate:
Where the request fails to meet the criteria, it will be rejected.

The issue here is the incident occurred in November, is there a police record or anything of it? Your ambulance report might come in handy but you'd need proof you were affected during the examination period, which is why a doctor might be your best option.
Also I'm afraid to apply you'd have to go through your exams officer, which means telling them why you need extenuating circumstances and providing evidence through them. I appreciate this isn't what you want to do, but they are always strictly professional (or should be anyway) and your situation will remain confidential. I'm afraid I don't know the finer details as I've never applied for them myself, but there are threads about which might have more information.

I'm so sorry your in this situation and I wish you all the best but if you want extenuating circumstances I'm afraid you have to tell somebody.
Reply 7
Original post by CallMeBatwoman
Ahh I know what you mean about competitive courses! Mine is almost always full so the pressure is on. :eek:

I'm sorry to hear that, my mum is similar and I know it would be hard to go behind your mum's back but this is in your best interest.
To give you an idea if what you might get (if you do apply) here's a list I found detailing what qualifies for what level of consideration:

5% This is the maximum allowance and will be reserved for the most exceptional cases, such as:
terminal illness of the candidate;
terminal illness of a parent/guardian/carer;
recent death of a member of the immediate family;
serious and disruptive domestic crises leading to acute anxiety about the family.

4% Very serious problems such as:
incapacitating illness of candidate or member of immediate family;
major surgery at or near the time of the examination;
severe disease;
severe car accident;
recent death of member of extended family;
severe or permanent bodily injury occurring at the time of the examinations;
domestic crisis at time of examinations.

3% A more common category, many more cases will fall into this group, including:
recent traumatic experience such as death of a close friend or distant relative;
recent illness of a more serious nature;
flare-up of severe congenital conditions such as epilepsy, diabetes, severe asthmatic attack;
recently broken limbs;
organ disease;
physical assault trauma before an examination;
recent domestic crisis;
witnessing a distressing event on day of examination.

2% Probably the most common category of allowance.
The majority of cases might fall within this category:
minor illness at the time of the assessment;
broken limb on the mend;
recent viral illness;
concussion;
effects of pregnancy (not pregnancy per se);
hay fever on the day of an examination;
extreme distress on day of examination;
allowance on last paper taken in a day when candidate has exceeded 5 hours 30 minutes at GCSE or 6 hours at AS/A Level.

1% Reserved for more minor problems:
noise during examination which is more than momentary;
illness of another candidate in examination room;
stress or anxiety for which medication has been prescribed;
minor ailments;
headache;
minor upset arising from administration problems, such as wrong time allocated.

0% Consideration was given but the addition of marks was considered inappropriate:
Where the request fails to meet the criteria, it will be rejected.

The issue here is the incident occurred in November, is there a police record or anything of it? Your ambulance report might come in handy but you'd need proof you were affected during the examination period, which is why a doctor might be your best option.
Also I'm afraid to apply you'd have to go through your exams officer, which means telling them why you need extenuating circumstances and providing evidence through them. I appreciate this isn't what you want to do, but they are always strictly professional (or should be anyway) and your situation will remain confidential. I'm afraid I don't know the finer details as I've never applied for them myself, but there are threads about which might have more information.

I'm so sorry your in this situation and I wish you all the best but if you want extenuating circumstances I'm afraid you have to tell somebody.



Thank you for this, where did you find it?

I might see my doctor about it then, but my last exam is this Wednesday... Does it matter that I decided to see my doctor after the exams finished?

I don't think there will be a police record as I told them not to press any charges. They escorted him to the hospital that night, and the next day he was sectioned under the mental health act.
I found it in another thread on extenuating circumstances :colondollar:

From what I've been told, it is possible to apply for extenuating circumstances after exams are over, but I'd double check with your exams officer. If there isn't a police record I don't think it'll matter, the doctors note will be most important if you can get one because it will prove you were negatively affected during your exam period.
Reply 9
Original post by CallMeBatwoman
I found it in another thread on extenuating circumstances :colondollar:

From what I've been told, it is possible to apply for extenuating circumstances after exams are over, but I'd double check with your exams officer. If there isn't a police record I don't think it'll matter, the doctors note will be most important if you can get one because it will prove you were negatively affected during your exam period.


Okay I think I will see a doctor & speak to the exams officer then... booked the appointment and emailed her :smile: Thanks a lot for your advice. I hope the doctor doesn't think I'm just being a whining teenager lol
Def explain how these memories haunt you to a doctor. There may be something that needs sorting going on atm and it's important you get the support you need.

I see you've got very useful advice about the exam stuff. Well done on making an appointment with your exams officer :hugs:
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Def explain how these memories haunt you to a doctor. There may be something that needs sorting going on atm and it's important you get the support you need.

I see you've got very useful advice about the exam stuff. Well done on making an appointment with your exams officer :hugs:


I just needed a bit of a nudge in the right direction really. Resorted to TSR because I can't talk to anyone about this... Hopefully seeing the doctor will help in some way
Original post by Anonymous
I just needed a bit of a nudge in the right direction really. Resorted to TSR because I can't talk to anyone about this... Hopefully seeing the doctor will help in some way


I really hope it does! You're being brave and that's to be commended :yep:
Original post by Anonymous
Anon because this post contains very sensitive, personal information.

I have an older brother who has problems with his mental health. He takes medication to prevent psychotic episodes from occuring.

Back in November, he had a very bad psychotic episode. He got very violent.
He beat my mother and I up (he's a lot older than me and very strong) and I ended up with a very swollen bruised face and a bleeding nose. The police got involved, and they came in just as he was beating me- I dont know what would have happened if the police hadn't stopped him.

I know it's not his fault- it happened due to his mental health problems- normally he wouldn't even hurt a fly.

But since then, I find myself having a lot of bad dreams about it, and sometimes in the middle of the day I randomly remember it happening again with no prompt- like I'll just be in a middle of a chemistry lesson and all of a sudden I see him punching me in my head or I see his facial expression from that night.

It's very annoying and when I remember things like that it really affects my concentration, and I get very nervous and paranoid when he's at home- I put my house keys in my pocket at all times just in case it ever happens again so my mother and I can escape the house. Sometimes I couldnt concentrate on my revision or homework properly until I knew he was asleep or he was out of the house.
Nobody knows about this happening except for my family. My school are aware that I have an older brother who is ill, but they don't know the nature of his illnesses, and they certainly don't know about that event in november.

I'm currently in year 13- I'm actually resitting the year after bad grades last year (I had mild depression and missed a lot of school). I've tried so so hard this year, and I've done well in most of my mock exams, and I have been trying to revise as much as I can for my A-Levels.

Should I tell someone about how I feel & ask for extenuating circumstances? Or am I being whiney and need to suck it up?


If I miss the grades I need for my university offer this year.... I really don't know what to do. I need to move away from home and study something I like. I can't afford to miss the grades again.
Please advise. It would be appreciated a lot.

Thanks


Hi,

You're having a normal reaction to something stressful going on in your family.It would be helpful for you to apply for extenuating circumstances and maybe delay your exams or whatever. However, you will also have to deal with your brother's situation in order for you to be less affected by it. Maybe see a counselor or have someone to talk to so you figure out how to move on from what happened (or is still happening).

He's your brother and it's clear you still care about him even after what happened, but it's important that you have boundaries set in place so that you are not in danger of that happening again.

If you can push yourself and sit the exams and do well, it would be good to get them out the way, but just do what is best for you.
It seems to me that you might be suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, I'd go and see your doctor, do not be scared. You don't have to be scared anymore.

Let your personal advisor/ student welfare officer for your department know.
Original post by CallMeBatwoman
I found it in another thread on extenuating circumstances :colondollar:

From what I've been told, it is possible to apply for extenuating circumstances after exams are over, but I'd double check with your exams officer. If there isn't a police record I don't think it'll matter, the doctors note will be most important if you can get one because it will prove you were negatively affected during your exam period.



Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I really hope it does! You're being brave and that's to be commended :yep:



Original post by Justfedup
Hi,

You're having a normal reaction to something stressful going on in your family.It would be helpful for you to apply for extenuating circumstances and maybe delay your exams or whatever. However, you will also have to deal with your brother's situation in order for you to be less affected by it. Maybe see a counselor or have someone to talk to so you figure out how to move on from what happened (or is still happening).

He's your brother and it's clear you still care about him even after what happened, but it's important that you have boundaries set in place so that you are not in danger of that happening again.

If you can push yourself and sit the exams and do well, it would be good to get them out the way, but just do what is best for you.



Original post by holsjols
It seems to me that you might be suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, I'd go and see your doctor, do not be scared. You don't have to be scared anymore.

Let your personal advisor/ student welfare officer for your department know.


Thanks everyone.

Just been to see my doctor. She was so lovely and offered to refer me to counselling. She also made me a note for extenuating circumstances, but that's going to be ready by Friday.... My examinations officer said she can only file a claim for extenuating circumstances up to 5 days after my last exam. My last exam was last Wednesday... So I'm not really sure what to do in that sense.
Thank you all for your help
Reply 16
Original post by Anonymous
Thanks everyone.

Just been to see my doctor. She was so lovely and offered to refer me to counselling. She also made me a note for extenuating circumstances, but that's going to be ready by Friday.... My examinations officer said she can only file a claim for extenuating circumstances up to 5 days after my last exam. My last exam was last Wednesday... So I'm not really sure what to do in that sense.
Thank you all for your help


hey if you don't mind me asking what did the doctors note include and was ait quite long my doc wrote me one for illness and it was quite short

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