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Uni choices-beware, long rant ahead

My mum is just being so annoying about the whole thing.
The other month I wanted to visit a university. She has never been to this place, but she just started going on about how awful and rough and horrible this city was- when it's not. Then she went on about how other people she knows don't like it etc- so I pointed out that people are different and that I might like it and that it's for my benefit. Then she just completely flips 180 and says 'fine it's your choice you're going to be going there whether I say you can or not, you've made up your mind already'.

Then a few days later she asks me who I'm going with. I say I'm going by myself, but meeting a friend of a friend up there. She gets all mad and says I have to find someone to go up with me, or else she will go with me. I know that won't work because she won't go, effectively ruining my plan. I ask like everybody I know, and nobody wants to or can go. So I'm convinced she did that just to ruin my plan.

Then a few days ago she told me about her friend's daughter or something going to this city and how she loved it etc. That's all fine and well except I missed the time to go and I'm no longer interested it anymore. See, if she had heard this before I planned on going, she would have let me go! Like a few months ago she was skeptical about me visiting another university and suddenly when her client mentioned her son loved it there, she was fine on me going.

She's doing it again. I mention how I've recently come to a decision about what I'm taking, and then she did the whole 'it's up to you' thing. But I know she secretly wants me to go to university in London, because I live close by and she'd convince me to commute. She started going on about how I wouldn't get paid enough in a part time job if I went to a northern university, and how the pay is better in London.... but then accomadation is more expensive in London so it would level out anyway! Argh! And then when I try to argue she always says 'it's your decision' but I know it's not really because she will be unhappy unless I pick what she wants. Also, I'm the type who who just spite her and go up to Scotland because of this, so if she doesn't stop doing this, I might just do that!

My sister is being annoying too. She thinks just because she's been to university she knows it all. She says that I can't do my degree because it's unemployable and that I have to do it with something which she considers more employable-but something I have no interest in whatsoever. But I know she's talking rubbish because the facts are the opposite. And she too wants to me to stay close. But what's the point of a proper independent uni experience when I'm 5 mins from home? I think my other problem is that as the youngest, I'm seen as the least responsible and least independent and now I'm desperately trying to prove to them that I can be. My parents always say stuff to put to down so now I don't want to go to a nearby or London uni, knowing they are within travelling distance when they have spare time.

Well done if you have read this all. :p:

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Reply 1

I read it all! *is proud of self*
I know how you feel, abotu parents putting pressure on you with uni choices. I think most people's parents will to some extent though, and I don't suppose your mum realises that she's being overbearing. Did your sister go to uni away from home? If so, I'm sure your parents will ease up a bit, they'll already be used to the idea (I'm an only child, so my parents were very upset that I'd be leaving!)
Which unis are you interested in, anyway? And which city did your mum disapprove of? (Sorry, just curious!)

Reply 2

Ok, firstly your mums is a little misinformed concerning the 'northern uni's are inferior' doctrine. Hello? Leeds university is a top university in the north and it's far from being the only one. Now then, London. I went to a London university last year and I hated it. The thing is, it was my choice, I decided to go there, and I when things didn't go too well I decided I was going to transfer. It's best to do what you want and then follow the concequences accordingly. Your mum's probably just wanting the best for you, but it sounds like she's being a little narrow minded about letting you make your own decisions. If you like the look of a place then don't hold back, just go for it. Distance isn't really an issue, you don't exactly go to university to remain in any sort of comfort zone. Do what ye want. Might be the best thing you ever do, and if not, don't worry. You'll get there in the end.

Reply 3

My mum didn't like it when I mentioned Bradford but she saw the uni and changed her mind. Though at least she was willing to go and look.

You just need to be calm :smile: and do what you want. My parents didn't have much say in my choice....

Reply 4

I do know how you feel and I completely sympathise as my parents were more or less the same. My dad kept on saying I should go to uni in london as I could live at home and save money and in the end I did apply to unis in london but I did regret it towards the end, as it's my choice and my life. No matter how hard I tried to explain, he wouldn't listen so my choices were kind of based to make him pleased and shut him up. However his plan didn't quite work as I got really annoyed with him and blamed him for the unis I chose and that the money, whilst it was an issue, would be down to me. It's my life to live. Anyways to cut a long story short, I ended up taking a gap year, thus being under the new fee system (which means more debt!) because I didn't want to go to my insurance uni (I never ever did, don't know why I chose it!) and he's slowly coming around to the idea of my uni and my course, but he says he won't visit me as my uni is too far away (it's only an hour by car :|) and he believes the course isn't good because it's not respected like law, medicine or dentistry *insert some other courses here* are. But I don't really listen to him anymore about uni stuff lol..I guess it's his way of showing he cares and doesn't want me to make mistakes, but what I guess some parents don't get is that it's our mistake to make. It's all a part of taking control of our lives and doing something we actually want to do.

I guess all you can do is sit down and have a chat with your mum and say you understand she just worries about you and cares for your wellbeing (maybe just say stuff to appease her :wink: maybe when we're parents ourselves we'll understand) and say that you would like the chance to go somewhere you want to go and do what you want to do with her blessing. Try and drag her to open days and show her all the positive points of the unis. Also for some employers, the degree you have isn't so important (unless you're doing law) but the skills you aquire from the degree. Most jobs these days require a degree, but it doesn't have to be related to the job you will do later. I think I read somewhere people that go into accounting and finance did history degrees and then went into that sector.

Reply 5

Also, if you do a degree you dislike, you may get disheartened and not do too well in it, or drop out of it all together.

edit. I've just realised my post is as long as the OP's :s-smilie: oops!

Reply 6

shinyhappy
I read it all! *is proud of self*
I know how you feel, abotu parents putting pressure on you with uni choices. I think most people's parents will to some extent though, and I don't suppose your mum realises that she's being overbearing. Did your sister go to uni away from home? If so, I'm sure your parents will ease up a bit, they'll already be used to the idea (I'm an only child, so my parents were very upset that I'd be leaving!)
Which unis are you interested in, anyway? And which city did your mum disapprove of? (Sorry, just curious!)

My sister went to a university 5 mins away, but she still lived in halls and away from home, even though she was so close. But she wanted that, because her and her boyfriend wanted to be together. However my parents are also different with me- if I went there (which I won't, it doesn't do the course I want) they would just tell me to stay at home to save money- no joke.
I'm interested in universities which are mainly up north, but the one which my mum disapproved of (but now doesn't mind) was a Welsh city. That's all I'm gonna say :p:

Journalistix
Ok, firstly your mums is a little misinformed concerning the 'northern uni's are inferior' doctrine. Hello? Leeds university is a top university in the north and it's far from being the only one. Now then, London. I went to a London university last year and I hated it. The thing is, it was my choice, I decided to go there, and I when things didn't go too well I decided I was going to transfer. It's best to do what you want and then follow the concequences accordingly. Your mum's probably just wanting the best for you, but it sounds like she's being a little narrow minded about letting you make your own decisions. If you like the look of a place then don't hold back, just go for it. Distance isn't really an issue, you don't exactly go to university to remain in any sort of comfort zone. Do what ye want. Might be the best thing you ever do, and if not, don't worry. You'll get there in the end.

She didn't really say they were inferior, just a little far from home... funny you should mention Leeds, I went there and that's the one she was skeptical about then was going on about how great it was for my course. Yes, she is being a little narrow minded- nobody get this!

foxiroxi- my problem is I'm not calm enough and fly off the handle when she makes these comments- then she makes it worse by seeming like the good guy and doing the whole 'it's your decision' thing which just irritates me so much.

Reply 7

Your Mum is dreading her youngest going off to university and leaving her all alone, be a bit more sympathetic when you're about to go off into the big wide world. Think how hard it is for kids that are the youngest from single parent families. Obvously she wants you to stay in London because she loves you, but she realises that this may not be the best thing for you and part of being your mother is letting you go. Therefore when you have a conversation with her about university it sturs up all kinds of empty nest syndrome feelings at the same time as wanting to be happy for you and proud, which is why conversations are so mixed up with her at the moment. Isn't that obvious? Also, ultimately, no matter how annoying it is to admit it; it is your decision.
Another thing to consider is that you sister is probably right. Doing an unemployable subject at university is a very risky thing to do, it's a massive investment and you will end up thousands in debt. That is of course unless you are very well to do and it doesn't matter anyway.

... Maybe not what you wanted to hear, but stop being such a moany teenager.

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Reply 9

Hana_1987
I do know how you feel and I completely sympathise as my parents were more or less the same. My dad kept on saying I should go to uni in london as I could live at home and save money and in the end I did apply to unis in london but I did regret it towards the end, as it's my choice and my life. No matter how hard I tried to explain, he wouldn't listen so my choices were kind of based to make him pleased and shut him up. However his plan didn't quite work as I got really annoyed with him and blamed him for the unis I chose and that the money, whilst it was an issue, would be down to me. It's my life to live. Anyways to cut a long story short, I ended up taking a gap year, thus being under the new fee system (which means more debt!) because I didn't want to go to my insurance uni (I never ever did, don't know why I chose it!) and he's slowly coming around to the idea of my uni and my course, but he says he won't visit me as my uni is too far away (it's only an hour by car :|) and he believes the course isn't good because it's not respected like law, medicine or dentistry *insert some other courses here* are. But I don't really listen to him anymore about uni stuff lol..I guess it's his way of showing he cares and doesn't want me to make mistakes, but what I guess some parents don't get is that it's our mistake to make. It's all a part of taking control of our lives and doing something we actually want to do.

I guess all you can do is sit down and have a chat with your mum and say you understand she just worries about you and cares for your wellbeing (maybe just say stuff to appease her :wink: maybe when we're parents ourselves we'll understand) and say that you would like the chance to go somewhere you want to go and do what you want to do with her blessing. Try and drag her to open days and show her all the positive points of the unis. Also for some employers, the degree you have isn't so important (unless you're doing law) but the skills you aquire from the degree. Most jobs these days require a degree, but it doesn't have to be related to the job you will do later. I think I read somewhere people that go into accounting and finance did history degrees and then went into that sector.

Thanks for the advice, makes alot of sense- but obviously I'm not thinking straight!
Take her to open days? Good suggestion, but maybe not. She's the sort to make loud comments and doesn't care if others hear her, and she will be asking all the silly annoying questions. Plus if she hates a place, she'd try to hate it more and point out the bad points or make them up if there are few!

Reply 10

Esquire
Your Mum is dreading her youngest going off to university and leaving her all alone, be a bit more sympathetic when you're about to go off into the big wide world. Think how hard it is for kids that are the youngest from single parent families. Obvously she wants you to stay in London because she loves you, but she realises that this may not be the best thing for you and part of being your mother is letting you go. Therefore when you have a conversation with her about university it sturs up all kinds of empty nest syndrome feelings at the same time as wanting to be happy for you and proud, which is why conversations are so mixed up with her at the moment. Isn't that obvious? Also, ultimately, no matter how annoying it is to admit it; it is your decision.
Another thing to consider is that you sister is probably right. Doing an unemployable subject at university is a very risky thing to do, it's a massive investment and you will end up thousands in debt. That is of course unless you are very well to do and it doesn't matter anyway.

... Maybe not what you wanted to hear, but stop being such a moany teenager.

First off, I'm not from a single parent family, she has my dad!
Yes I know it's my decision, but it's annoying how everyone talks about university being this big independent thing, when how can it be when someone else is trying to make/influence/force the decision?
The subject I want to do is not unemployable, it's the opposite. I'd also like to point out its rich coming from my sister as she does one which is. Even if it was, shouldn't students be encouraged to do subjects they enjoy, even if it does have bad employability?

I would resent you calling me a moany teenager, but it's true. But it's better out than in!

FanTOM
I've read it all, but I will keep my reply short and sweet.

It's your life. Your choice. You do it. It's time for you to be selfish, I'm sure your Mum will come round to the idea eventually. You're old enough to call the shots.

Thank you!

Reply 11

aw i'm sorry *hugs*. Hope it all works out for you though xx

Reply 12

Gotta say I feel really sorry for you.

If I were you id explain to her that the world does not revolve around London and that it is YOUR LIFE and you are an idepandant adult etc.

If that doesnt work id just completely ignore her and apply where u like (the north is beautiful glad u choose to come here) and hopefully she will grow to accept you for who you are and want you want

I realise this is hardly ideal but then again nothing is really,

Edit: By the way Leeds is a little rough and the city centre is frankly badly policed and a little intimidating. Don't want to put u off and it is a strong university but just saying maybe everything your mum says isnt entirely made up.

Reply 13

Hana_1987
aw i'm sorry hon *hugs*. Hope it all works out for you though xx

Thanks:smile: It's good to know that some people can relate- you will be getting some rep your way (albeit worth very little :redface:) soon!

Reply 14

Use a bit of reverse psychology. Ask your mum her opinions on unis and visit a couple she suggests as long as you can go see the ones you want. Mum will then hopefully be placated and feel involved.

Reply 15

Heartbreaker
Gotta say I feel really sorry for you.

If I were you id explain to her that the world does not revolve around London and that it is YOUR LIFE and you are an idepandant adult etc.

If that doesnt work id just completely ignore her and apply where u like (the north is beautiful glad u choose to come here) and hopefully she will grow to accept you for who you are and want you want

I realise this is hardly ideal but then again nothing is really,

Thank you aswell for your sympathy :p: (not that I wanted any, but it doesn't hurt :biggrin:)

Rep for you also :smile: and some others lol.

Reply 16

First off, I'm not from a single parent family, she has my dad!
Yes I know it's my decision, but it's annoying how everyone talks about university being this big independent thing, when how can it be when someone else is trying to make/influence/force the decision?
The subject I want to do is not unemployable, it's the opposite. I'd also like to point out its rich coming from my sister as she does one which is. Even if it was, shouldn't students be encouraged to do subjects they enjoy, even if it does have bad employability?

I would resent you calling me a moany teenager, but it's true. But it's better out than in!

I said think how bad it is for kids from single parent families, because they are worse off than you. They would have this leaving home guilt ten times more so.
If the subject you are doing is employable then don't worry about it, your sister could just be repeating advice she has gotten from her Uni's career service (my brother does that).
The people that love you will want you to be happy, so theres no need to cut your nose off to spite your face (if that makes sense). Go where you want to go and stop the moaning :biggrin:.

Reply 17

ladyportacabin
Use a bit of reverse psychology. Ask your mum her opinions on unis and visit a couple she suggests as long as you can go see the ones you want. Mum will then hopefully be placated and feel involved.

Good idea... however, if I asked her to suggest a few, she probably wouldn't know many. She's very much influenced by what others say. Like yesterday one of her clients said she was applying to a uni so now she's thinking I should go there, though I don't want to. Also only a few uni's do my course, so I can't give her much say really :p:. As I said before, if I involve her she'll be all obnoxious about it.
Thanks for advice though!

Reply 18

Esquire
I said think how bad it is for kids from single parent families, because they are worse off than you. They would have this leaving home guilt ten times more so.
If the subject you are doing is employable then don't worry about it, your sister could just be repeating advice she has gotten from her Uni's career service (my brother does that).
The people that love you will want you to be happy, so theres no need to cut your nose off to spite your face (if that makes sense). Go where you want to go and stop the moaning :biggrin:.

I don't have any guilt about leaving home... I'm just annoyed that at the age of nearly 18, my mum is still trying to make my decisions.
Also as I said in my first post I would do something to just to spite someone.
And the more you tell me to stop moaning, the more I want to! :p:

Reply 19

Well you siad she doesn't know mucha bout Universities and just goes on what other people say, so do some research and try and make sure it's you that influences her views.
I'm aware that's probably what you've been trying to do, but try and think about what you're going to say in advance and present the information to her in a rational manner. Look in the unis' prospectuses and on their websites and under the sections, 'why this uni, why this subject' and start quoting a lot of stuff from that. But remember you're not particularly trying to justify your decisions to her because you need to (you'll be an adult, it's your decision, it'll be your debt) but rather to try and make her feel more comfortable and happy about where you'll be and what you'll be doing.

To extent I can relate to your problem. My Father wanted me to go to the uni he liked best (which was my insurance choice, Kent) because my deputy head and his ex-boss liked it so much. When I missed my offer for Sussex and was faced with taking a gap year and then going to Sussex, or going to Kent this year he told me to go to Kent because he couldn't afford to pay for my accomodation and food and stuff if I left it a year because he'd have to be paying my sister's uni fees as well in a couple of years. Then he spoke to some other 'important' people in his business and when they declared their admiration for Sussex, suddenly and miraculously, he realised he could just put away a load of money this year and he could pay for my uni life after all.:rolleyes:
It didn't matter anyway though, as after a chat with my teacher I realised Sussex was where I wanted to be and I'd get a job in my gap year and pay my own bills in uni if need be because it was my choice and my life.

So I guess my ever so long winded point, was that many parents try to influence your decision, 98% of the time it will be because they're trying to think what's best for you, but at the end of the day, you have to do what you want, and do it by your own means if you need to like any other adult would!:smile: