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2:1 overall, 2:2 in one module - a problem?

Hey guys, just a quick question: I got my first year results back yesterday and across all modules scored an average of 67%. However, one of my individual module scores (Legal Systems) was 59%, and I'm a tad worried about how firms may perceive this. Just wondered if anyone knows whether the standard 2:1 requirement is referring to the overall average of all modules, or whether all individual modules have to be at least a 2:1?

Hope that makes sense. Thanks!

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Reply 1

The 2:1 requirement is for your degree overall.

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by FireGarden
The 2:1 requirement is for your degree overall.


Great, cheers! :redface:

Reply 3

I think you will be fine with those results in your first year! Don't worry

Reply 4

It's your first year anyway, they're referring to final results which in some cases might include your second year but generally refer to final year. :h:

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by Hal.E.Lujah
It's your first year anyway, they're referring to final results which in some cases might include your second year but generally refer to final year. :h:


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by happyinthehaze
I think you will be fine with those results in your first year! Don't worry


Thanks guys. I'm just thinking in terms of when I'm applying for vac schemes etc next year and first year results are all they've got to look at, but I'm probably just being paranoid! Cheers :smile:

Reply 6

The 2.1 is for your overall grade, but with percentages like yours I would have thought you will already be looking good to recruiters. Forget the 59% - it won't matter. You have very good percentages in your first year - they want to know that you haven't totally slacked off the first whiff of freedom you get and that you are the kind of person who they can rely on to work very hard for a long time!! :wink:



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by Kidioteque
Thanks guys. I'm just thinking in terms of when I'm applying for vac schemes etc next year and first year results are all they've got to look at, but I'm probably just being paranoid! Cheers :smile:

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by Kidioteque
Hey guys, just a quick question: I got my first year results back yesterday and across all modules scored an average of 67%. However, one of my individual module scores (Legal Systems) was 59%, and I'm a tad worried about how firms may perceive this. Just wondered if anyone knows whether the standard 2:1 requirement is referring to the overall average of all modules, or whether all individual modules have to be at least a 2:1?

Hope that makes sense. Thanks!


You are required to get a 2.1 overall. In addition, top firms may be iffy about individual 2.2 grades. But it's your first year, it's one module and it's 1% below a 2.1. You should be fine.

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by happyinthehaze
The 2.1 is for your overall grade, but with percentages like yours I would have thought you will already be looking good to recruiters. Forget the 59% - it won't matter. You have very good percentages in your first year - they want to know that you haven't totally slacked off the first whiff of freedom you get and that you are the kind of person who they can rely on to work very hard for a long time!! :wink:


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by TurboCretin
You are required to get a 2.1 overall. In addition, top firms may be iffy about individual 2.2 grades. But it's your first year, it's one module and it's 1% below a 2.1. You should be fine.


A huge thanks to both of you :smile:

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by Kidioteque
A huge thanks to both of you :smile:


FYI, consistency is better than a good average with erratic module scores. For next year, you want to prioritise getting everything to 2.1 standard. Getting 1sts in some things will not compensate for getting 2.2s in others.

Given your 1st year results, I doubt this will be an issue for you in any case.

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What is 'Legal Systems'?


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by Key123
What is 'Legal Systems'?


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It's just an introductory (compulsory) law module - includes stuff about common law vs civil law, ADR, judicial diversity and so on. I think most universities have such a module but perhaps under different names. It's seen as a bit of a waste of time from what I've heard.

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by TurboCretin
FYI, consistency is better than a good average with erratic module scores. For next year, you want to prioritise getting everything to 2.1 standard. Getting 1sts in some things will not compensate for getting 2.2s in others.

Given your 1st year results, I doubt this will be an issue for you in any case.


Thanks, naturally I tried to be as consistent as possible this year but sometimes that's easier said than done! The rest of my scores ranged from 65 to 71 so I think I was otherwise pretty consistent. Funnily enough, the 59 was the exam I thought I had done best in!

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by Kidioteque
It's just an introductory (compulsory) law module - includes stuff about common law vs civil law, ADR, judicial diversity and so on. I think most universities have such a module but perhaps under different names. It's seen as a bit of a waste of time from what I've heard.


Ah right. Yeah it doesn't sound hugely transferable to the workplace. I doubt one 59 will cause you any issues at all. Just make sure you perform well in the 'core' legal modules.


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Your first year doesn't count towards your classification; you could get 40% and it wouldn't matter.

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by TurboCretin
FYI, consistency is better than a good average with erratic module scores. For next year, you want to prioritise getting everything to 2.1 standard. Getting 1sts in some things will not compensate for getting 2.2s in others.

Given your 1st year results, I doubt this will be an issue for you in any case.


Are you certain that this is the case?

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by JustWonderingWhy
Are you certain that this is the case?


Well, I have been told similar things by various members of City firm grad recruitment or partners over the span of a few years. Assuming you're talking about the spread of grades. Getting the odd 2.2 could potentially take you out of the running for the MC. They prefer consistent marks in the 60s to flashes of brilliance interspersed with mediocrity.

Reply 17

Don't panic. I was told by a City lawyer that my 2:2 in contract law (ahem) wouldn't matter if I could demonstrate aptitude elsewhere. (Admittedly I did later do an insurance contract law module and get a first but he didn't know that at the time).

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by Groundearth
Your first year doesn't count towards your classification; you could get 40% and it wouldn't matter.


Thanks, but I was asking in the context of how firms will see it when I apply for vac schemes etc. Even though it doesn't count towards my overall degree classification I was under the impression that first year results are still used as a means of differentiating candidates. Apologies if that was unclear in my OP.

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by Rascacielos
Don't panic. I was told by a City lawyer that my 2:2 in contract law (ahem) wouldn't matter if I could demonstrate aptitude elsewhere. (Admittedly I did later do an insurance contract law module and get a first but he didn't know that at the time).


Awesome, cheers! And congrats on the first :top:

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by TurboCretin
Well, I have been told similar things by various members of City firm grad recruitment or partners over the span of a few years. Assuming you're talking about the spread of grades. Getting the odd 2.2 could potentially take you out of the running for the MC. They prefer consistent marks in the 60s to flashes of brilliance interspersed with mediocrity.


Flashes of brilliance interspersed with mediocrity rather sums up my career to date.....


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