Will Juncker appointment affect EU referendum vote?

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Jean-Claude Juncker looks set to become the EU's next big boss, President of the European Commission.

Will the fact alone that a federalist has been given the top position affect the EU referendum vote as much as David Cameron says?

Juncker's also been under pressure recently for drinking on the job... could the EU crumble any more?
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Juncker's also been under pressure recently for drinking on the job...
He's copying Farage's policy then!!
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Jean-Claude Juncker looks set to become the EU's next big boss, President of the European Commission.

Will the fact alone that a federalist has been given the top position affect the EU referendum vote as much as David Cameron says?

Juncker's also been under pressure recently for drinking on the job... could the EU crumble any more?
Given that a federalist has been in power since 04 (with a larger majority) the answer is no. When it comes to the referendum i personally doubt people will even debate the intricacies of the deal we get with Europe (we will get a few small bones) because the debate will simply be around whether you want to be part of a country of Europe or not. The people who strongly support the EU will vote to stay in, those who care about sovereignty and immigration will vote to leave regardless and then the vast majority of people i suspect will take the typical British stance of 'Don't know's vote no to change'. I expect that the country at large will vote to retain membership albeit i'm somewhat undecided myself.
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I find it a bit hypocritical for eurosceptics to demand Juncker not be made Commission President. Given their repeated demands for more democracy in the EU, the Member States declared they would take into account the European Parliament elections in their selection. Juncker is the EPP candidate; EPP won the European elections Europe-wide.

To not choose him, while entirely within their rights, would be seen as a rejection of their earlier promise. So they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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I find it a bit hypocritical for eurosceptics to demand Juncker not be made Commission President. Given their repeated demands for more democracy in the EU, the Member States declared they would take into account the European Parliament elections in their selection. Juncker is the EPP candidate; EPP won the European elections Europe-wide.

To not choose him, while entirely within their rights, would be seen as a rejection of their earlier promise. So they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I wouldn't have an issue with all of this if the individual members of the EU public voted for who they want as president rather than the EU Commission (which is basically like congress choosing the US president rather than the American people).
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I wouldn't have an issue with all of this if the individual members of the EU public voted for who they want as president rather than the EU Commission (which is basically like congress choosing the US president rather than the American people).
Eh, it's on a par with the UK Prime Minister not being elected, or the Electoral College selecting the EU President, or indeed a Vice-President, approved by Congress, succeeding as President of the US with no intervening election.
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I wouldn't have an issue with all of this if the individual members of the EU public voted for who they want as president rather than the EU Commission (which is basically like congress choosing the US president rather than the American people).
The commission did not elect him this time, the EPP grouping in parliament chose him.
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No, any reform will be decided by the Council, not the Commission.
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Eh, it's on a par with the UK Prime Minister not being elected, or the Electoral College selecting the EU President, or indeed a Vice-President, approved by Congress, succeeding as President of the US with no intervening election.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I've been given is that unlike most parliamentary premiers, the Commission President is not required to maintain the confidence of the European Parliament through his entire term, instead simply needing the initial majority required for appointment.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I've been given is that unlike most parliamentary premiers, the Commission President is not required to maintain the confidence of the European Parliament through his entire term, instead simply needing the initial majority required for appointment.
The president can be dismissed by parliament, as can the entire commission. The only thing they can't do it get rid of individual commissioners.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I've been given is that unlike most parliamentary premiers, the Commission President is not required to maintain the confidence of the European Parliament through his entire term, instead simply needing the initial majority required for appointment.
As anarchisms' said: the Parliament can depose the Commission at will as a collective body, but cannot sack individuals.
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