What salary are you realistically expecting to earn?

Sure sounds like a pay rise

A 30% one at that...

It doesn't come all in one go and it performance/competency related there's about 8 increment points within the pay band.

So about 3.7% a year pay rises unless you're at the top of the band or in Scotland or get promotion.

Looks good when you put it like that i have to admit, it's mainly the way the government/media stated that it was an easy pay rise as it's apparently based on how long you had been there, when its not, that annoyed me at the time. At the end of the day i appreciate that i'm in a job that i like and on a decent wage for my age when people the same age are struggling to get jobs.

Straight into a typical job I reckon that's probably somewhat accurate. I'm a chemist so uh slightly different, but equally, if you try for a grad scheme I reckon you can easily top another 5k on that. I'm just starting my final year so i've been looking, and ... pleasantly surprised? I expected more like 22-24k for most grad schemes, but actually i've seen a lot much dithering around the 28k mark. Some of the most competitive are more like 30-35k but yeah, surprised me actually there's a bit more out there when you really start to look. Mainly at this time of year though as many of them do close autumn/winter time. I suspect it's all going to be grossly competitive though, so I probably shouldn't get too used to the idea

I saw a job a few months ago, in an area I think I might like to work in, and it was paying 18k. Kick in the face, personally, given my housemate got 19k on her placement before she even has a degree.

Musician- 60-70k per annum?

For a musician? You're optimistic. When my parents left the professional orchestra they played in they were earning 35-40k each. And that was after 30 years' employment with one leading a section. And they were considered incredibly lucky.

Trust me, I know the business If you're a conductor u can earn, idk, 40k per concert. It obviously varies from orchestra to orchestra e.g. the principal oboist in Berlin earns 8k per month

Trust me, I know the business If you're a conductor u can earn, idk, 40k per concert. It obviously varies from orchestra to orchestra e.g. the principal oboist in Berlin earns 8k per month

You're talking about a tiny, tiny fraction of people at the top. You must have a lot of confidence in yourself! What do you play?

I turned down an offer of $250k a year to work in the Kingdom for 2 years working for a large security vendor as a contractor... the money out there is just insane, but it would have come with a big price in freedom and liberty for me at least, hence why even such a lucrative offer was not appealing. Some of my former colleagues have done work out there and loved it, others hated it.

That's crazy. Think about the end goal.