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    M263 - Gibraltar Motion, TSR UKIP This house welcomes the findings of the Foreign Affairs Committee and supports the RL government in taking a tougher line with Spain over Gibraltar, and urges the TSR Government to follow suit.
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    Aye! We can't let the Spanish government walk over us like they have been doing!


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    aye.
    We should consider a range of measures including removing fast track customs for spanish citizens at UK Border Entry points
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    All measures should be considered to strengthen Britain's position and force Spain to calm down and back down.
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      Oh who cares? I mean really, it's just a rock which is of no importance, it's not like it's a financial hub or anything useful...
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      (Original post by tehFrance)
      Oh who cares? I mean really, it's just a rock which is of no importance, it's not like it's a financial hub or anything useful...
      Sadly I see the British government feeling this way about Northern Ireland (I am from Northern Ireland). The problem is the territory that the UK own will all be lost should they take this approach. This isn't the way forward!


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      Sadly I see the British government feeling this way about Northern Ireland (I am from Northern Ireland). The problem is the territory that the UK own will all be lost should they take this approach. This isn't the way forward!


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      Good. Northern Ireland can be given up freely by the UK for all I care. They can be independent or join Ireland, I don't really care what they do. Northern Ireland is far too much hassle than it's worth.
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      abstain. I have no idea beyond 1911 (Agadir Crisis)
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        (Original post by adam9317)
        Sadly I see the British government feeling this way about Northern Ireland (I am from Northern Ireland). The problem is the territory that the UK own will all be lost should they take this approach. This isn't the way forward!
        Good riddance is all I can say to both NI and Gib, anything that doesn't benefit the UK economically should be cut. This is the way forward!
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        I'm not interested in territorial or sovereignty issues (nor should anybody else be), but if the Spanish government is impeding the freedom of the residents of Gibraltar, I'll vote Aye.

        Not that I want to see any measures taken against Spanish citizens.
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        (Original post by tehFrance)
        Good riddance is all I can say to both NI and Gib, anything that doesn't benefit the UK economically should be cut. This is the way forward!
        Using that argument the Channel islands would be cut, Scotland would be cut, Wales would be cut, North England would be cut, heck, cut everything outside of the City of London and Sandbanks. Most places in the UK are running up a debt anyway

        Gibraltar is a strategic gateway to the Mediterranean and from there to the Middle East. It's a place for the navy to dock before escorting container ships to ensure ensure trade. Not to mention the gold safe.
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        Aye, no-brainer.
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          (Original post by This Is Matt)
          Using that argument the Channel islands would be cut, Scotland would be cut, Wales would be cut, North England would be cut, heck, cut everything outside of the City of London and Sandbanks. Most places in the UK are running up a debt anyway

          Gibraltar is a strategic gateway to the Mediterranean and from there to the Middle East. It's a place for the navy to dock before escorting container ships to ensure ensure trade. Not to mention the gold safe.
          Good

          So?
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          Nay. It is not in the interests of British citizens in Gibraltar to have tit-for-tat exchanges of rhetoric and 'special measures'. That just provides a perfect storm for further tension.
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          Aye. The recommendations were both proportional and justified.
          (Original post by tehFrance)
          Good riddance is all I can say to both NI and Gib, anything that doesn't benefit the UK economically should be cut. This is the way forward!
          That way we would only be left with London and the SE.
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          Nay. This should ideally be dealt with by the EU/UN.
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          Aye. We need someone whom we can beat at cricket and as a country for third division footballers to play for internationally.
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          (Original post by tehFrance)
          Good . So?
          Losing the ability to secure ships in the Mediterranean and the Middle East will make UK trade more vulnerable and damage the economy. Gibraltar contributes towards an economic advantage

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          Nay. It is not in the interests of British citizens in Gibraltar to have tit-for-tat exchanges of rhetoric and 'special measures'. That just provides a perfect storm for further tension.
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          Nay. This should ideally be dealt with by the EU/UN.
          You two didn't read the report, did you? You do realise their report calls for legal action to be taken in EU/UN courts and to involve both bodies?
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          (Original post by This Is Matt)
          You two didn't read the report, did you? You do realise their report calls for legal action to be taken in EU/UN courts and to involve both bodies?
          OK, but ideally the EU would lead this process and not the UK.
         
         
         
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