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    Hi

    I recently applied through a recruitment agency for a placement.

    Thing is, if I get the job do I have to pay them?

    Also is it risky?
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    You should not have to pay them. They are extracting money off the firm on the other side.

    Why would it be risky? There are scams that pretend to have jobs in order to get personal info, but if this is a reputable agency, that shouldn't be the case.
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    It's not risky - go for it.

    The last 2 jobs I have got was all through agencies and I wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for these recruiters. They don't use your personal inforamtion and they don't ask for any payment.

    The company hires them to go through CV's and potential candidates,for the company to finally interview. Companies use them for ease of shifting through CV's themselves and having to call interviewees and arrange appointments, and also giving them the "you did not make it" phone call. So this is all done through the agency. It's actually the best way of getting a job, because the agency has your details and job specifications for what you would like and if a job comes up that matches what you were looking for, they apply on your behalf. They are also good because a lot of these jobs wouldn't be advertised on milkround or anything like that, the company doesn't have time for that - they give it to a recruitment agency and let them do it all.

    DO IT!!
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    It is risky because the employer has to pay the agency if you get the job (a certain percentage of your wage usually) so in that respect people who apply direct have the advantage.

    I've actually lost out on a job because of this before.
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    (Original post by unprinted)
    You should not have to pay them. They are extracting money off the firm on the other side.

    Why would it be risky? There are scams that pretend to have jobs in order to get personal info, but if this is a reputable agency, that shouldn't be the case.
    Thanks.

    Why do agencies exist and why do companies use them?
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    (Original post by po10tial)
    Why do agencies exist and why do companies use them?
    Because there's a market. Some agencies specialise in medical or teaching or...

    For workers, they can get you work. They now need to pay holiday and sick pay too.

    For finding temporary staff, they can be very useful. I used to work somewhere where I could ring up in the morning and say 'I need a cook for the day in an hour', and one would turn up. It cost more per hour than the permanent member of staff who they were covering for, but they had a supply of cooks and we needed one, now, and there was a presumed level of competence.

    For finding permanent staff, they can avoid some of the hassle in recruiting (advertising the post, some of the screening) but again there's a financial cost.

    Typically, if you hire someone who's been a temp from them, they expect a chunk of money, for example.
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    Because there's a market. Some agencies specialise in medical or teaching or...

    For workers, they can get you work. They now need to pay holiday and sick pay too.

    For finding temporary staff, they can be very useful. I used to work somewhere where I could ring up in the morning and say 'I need a cook for the day in an hour', and one would turn up. It cost more per hour than the permanent member of staff who they were covering for, but they had a supply of cooks and we needed one, now, and there was a presumed level of competence.

    For finding permanent staff, they can avoid some of the hassle in recruiting (advertising the post, some of the screening) but again there's a financial cost.

    Typically, if you hire someone who's been a temp from them, they expect a chunk of money, for example.
    But let me get one thing straight...

    Say if I got a job through an agency, do I have to pay them money?
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    Admittedly I know very little about agencies, but at least two of my friends find part-time work over the summer through them.
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    (Original post by po10tial)
    But let me get one thing straight...

    Say if I got a job through an agency, do I have to pay them money?
    No, the employer pays the agency for introducing them to the successful candidate. The employer will have negotiated with the agency to pay them either a flat fee (more usual for entry level, junior roles) or a proportion of the annual salary agreed (more usual for agencies that would call themselves Headhunters of more senior roles (£60k upwards)). The person recruited does not pay anything.
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    (Original post by po10tial)
    But let me get one thing straight...

    Say if I got a job through an agency, do I have to pay them money?
    (Original post by unprinted)
    You should not have to pay them. They are extracting money off the firm on the other side.
    If they want money from you, there's something wrong.
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    (Original post by threeportdrift)
    No, the employer pays the agency for introducing them to the successful candidate. The employer will have negotiated with the agency to pay them either a flat fee (more usual for entry level, junior roles) or a proportion of the annual salary agreed (more usual for agencies that would call themselves Headhunters of more senior roles (£60k upwards)). The person recruited does not pay anything.
    Thanks for your response.

    I just have a few questions
    1. Is it true that they agency pay your wages? If so, what happens if they don't pay your wages, due to commission or simply financial greed?
    2. For a 1 year placement/internship, how would the commission be paid to the agency. One off flat fee? Will my salary be reduced? Say I was going to be paid 16K, would I still be paid 16K or will I be paid less than 16K?
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    There are two ways things work -

    1. You 'temp' for an agency. Your contract is with the agency, no-one else. They rent you out to whoever needs you, charging the firm £££s, and they pay you ££s (or £s, depending). They will have an obligation to pay holiday pay, sick pay etc.

    2. A firm uses them to recruit someone long-term. Your contract is with the firm, not the agency. The firm will have a contract of some sort with the agency, saying how much they will be paid for finding you, but the contents don't affect you. If your contract with the firm says £16k, it's £16k the firm pays you.
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    (Original post by po10tial)
    Thanks for your response.

    I just have a few questions

    1. Is it true that they agency pay your wages? If so, what happens if they don't pay your wages, due to commission or simply financial greed?
    2. For a 1 year placement/internship, how would the commission be paid to the agency. One off flat fee? Will my salary be reduced? Say I was going to be paid 16K, would I still be paid 16K or will I be paid less than 16K?
    They dont usually pay your wages, no, unless its a temp agency.

    I beleive they usually get a one off payment when you start and another if you pass your probation period.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    They dont usually pay your wages, no, unless its a temp agency.

    I beleive they usually get a one off payment when you start and another if you pass your probation period.
    Hi

    Thank you for your response.

    What is a temp agency? Im a student who applied through an agency for a 1 year placement.

    So will I lose a lot of money in terms of wage?
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    (Original post by unprinted)
    There are two ways things work -

    1. You 'temp' for an agency. Your contract is with the agency, no-one else. They rent you out to whoever needs you, charging the firm £££s, and they pay you ££s (or £s, depending). They will have an obligation to pay holiday pay, sick pay etc.

    2. A firm uses them to recruit someone long-term. Your contract is with the firm, not the agency. The firm will have a contract of some sort with the agency, saying how much they will be paid for finding you, but the contents don't affect you. If your contract with the firm says £16k, it's £16k the firm pays you.
    Thanks for your response.

    What about if it is for a 1 year placement?
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    Agencies are ok, you just need to be wary of a few things with them.

    They are good for finding work at relatively short notice, and if you are looking for temporary work, to get your career up and running and so on.

    If you do a couple of jobs with an agency and get good feedback then you will become one of their prized assets and they will send you to the better companies on their books (the ones they want to build relationships with).

    But what you have to remember is the agency is not thinking about you and your career. They are not a careers service or an advisory service (even though they may pretend to be). Recruitment is a sales based job with a lot of pressure on the staff to hit targets and their pay is commission based. They will sometimes talk people in to bad career decisions by encouraging them to move and not always telling them the full details of the job, which is why you hear stories of people that have given up a good job, gone somewhere worse on false pretences, and its all about getting the recruitment person in the agency their commission for makng someone move job and placing them in a role.
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    As a firm, you would have to be insane to agree in advance to pay temp rates to the same person for a year. Your contract is going to be with the firm.
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    (Original post by po10tial)
    Thanks for your response.

    I just have a few questions

    1. Is it true that they agency pay your wages? If so, what happens if they don't pay your wages, due to commission or simply financial greed?
    2. For a 1 year placement/internship, how would the commission be paid to the agency. One off flat fee? Will my salary be reduced? Say I was going to be paid 16K, would I still be paid 16K or will I be paid less than 16K?

    To be honest,you need to ask them those questions.

    The agency have to pay your wages because for that amount of time you are on their payroll. The idea that they won't pay or financial greed etc can technically happen with any job you have.

    With my experience, I had a two week trial period,where the agency gave me a time sheet which I filled in.
    After the two weeks and I was hired, that was it and I got paid by the company.
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    (Original post by stargirl63)
    To be honest,you need to ask them those questions.

    The agency have to pay your wages because for that amount of time you are on their payroll. The idea that they won't pay or financial greed etc can technically happen with any job you have.

    With my experience, I had a two week trial period,where the agency gave me a time sheet which I filled in.
    After the two weeks and I was hired, that was it and I got paid by the company.
    So it depends on the agency?

    What happens if you are student looking for a one year placement? Are you owned by the company or agent?

    So on your CV do you put the agency as your place of work or do you put your actual company?
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    (Original post by unprinted)
    As a firm, you would have to be insane to agree in advance to pay temp rates to the same person for a year. Your contract is going to be with the firm.
    Oh, thanks for that. So I am owned by the company and can put the actual company, as my employment on my CV?
 
 
 
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