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    Hey all,

    I've sadly not done so well in my second year, relative to my first year and I ended up getting a Second upper instead of a first.

    Is it substantially harder to apply and obtain a post graduate offer from universities now?
    Is there a high probability that I will need to wait till I fully graduate and work my ass off next year in order to secure a first overall and then apply for post graduate entry in 2016-2017, meaning that I'll have a gap year between my Undergrad and Post graduate studies?

    Killing myself with stress and anxiety atm.
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    Hi Amirblume,

    I guess you're looking to go abroad for your postgraduate studies since you post in specifically this forum? The application procedures differ per country (and often per university) but in the Netherlands in general we mainly look at whether you have the right educational background (type of Bachelor's program and courses) and whether you are motivated. We look at grades but they are only on rare occasions part of the admission requirements. Not sure which field of study you are interested in?
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    When you apply, you are often asked to give them your expected result. This means you can still very well say you're expecting to get a first instead of a 2.1. Whether they believe you is another story, but I doubt they would be too sceptical about it cuz if you've declared an expected first then your offer might be on the condition that you do get a first.
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    I don't know what you plan to study, but for many good postgrad programs, the requirement is either a good 2:1 or a 1st. For example: http://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/...c-requirements Of course, some of the more competitive programs require a 1st (see the requirements for the MASt in Applied Maths at Cambridge, for instance).

    Depending on what you want to study, you could definitely get into a great postgrad program with a 2:1. That said, there will obviously be many more parts of your application than your final mark, so be sure to concentrate on those, too.

    If you want to go to the US, your final mark might not be that significant. For many programs, grades are not that significant, but research experience/writing samples, etc. really are.

    Look at the requirements for the programs you're interested in before getting worked up!
 
 
 
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