Germany v Argentina
World Cup 2014
8.00pm BST, Sunday 13 July 2014
Estádio Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro
Welcome to the match thread for the 2014 FIFA World Cup final. It's been a fantastic tournament so far, with plenty of goals, skills, shocks, and even some controversy thrown in too. There have been a number of impressive sides, and some who were flat throughout. We've now arrived at the final destination, with both Germany and Argentina fighting for the right to hold the Jules Rimet trophy aloft and be crowned World Cup champions for 2014. Germany have blitzed their way into the final, comfortably disposing of heavyweights such as Portugal, France and most emphatically, Brazil. Have they peaked too soon? Argentina meanwhile have stuttered their way through, with who else but Messi being their most influential figure as they attempt to land the holy grail for the 3rd time in their history.
Here's a reminder of how both sides made it to this stage(With BBC highlights):
Lahm Boateng Hummels Howedes
Muller Kroos Ozil
Lavezzi Mascherano Biglia Perez
Rojo Garay Demichelis Zabaleta
- Germany are set to play in their eighth World Cup final; more than any other nation. They have won three titles.
- They have won just one of their last four appearances in the World Cup final (1990 v Argentina).
- Germany have now reached a World Cup final in each of the last seven decades (1954, 1966, 1974, 1982 and 86, 1990, 2002 and now 2014).
- Argentina are set to play in their fifth World Cup final, they have won two and lost two of the previous four.
- This will be the third World Cup final between Germany and Argentina. They met in successive finals in 1986 and 1990, with each team lifting the title (3-2 Argentina in 1986, 1-0 Germany in 1990).
- No other fixture has been played as often in a World Cup final as Germany v Argentina.
- This is the 10th time that teams from Europe and South America face each other in the final. Seven of these finals have been won by the teams from South America.
- Both sides will face off for the seventh time at the World Cup, the only fixture that has been played as often is Brazil v Sweden (seven times).
- Germany have won three and lost just one of the previous six World Cup encounters with Argentina (D2). Germany also won the penalty shootout in 2006 against Argentina.
- Germany had eliminated Argentina from the 2006 World Cup (1-1 AET and 4-2 on penalties in the quarter-final) and from the 2010 World Cup (4-0 in the quarter-final).
- The 4-0 defeat in 2010 is Argentina's heaviest World Cup defeat in the last 40 years (0-4 v Netherlands in 1974).
- Argentina have won nine out of 20 games against Germany (D5 L6), though. The last meeting (August 2012, Frankfurt) saw Argentina win 3-1.
- No side have kept as many clean sheets as Argentina in the 2014 World Cup (four, Germany have three).
- Argentina are yet to concede a goal in the knock-out stages at this tournament (despite playing extra-time in two of their three games).
- On the last five occasions that Germany have failed to score in a World Cup match, they have lost.
- The last time Germany scored in a World Cup match and lost was the 1994 quarter final defeat to Bulgaria (1-2).
- Germany are unbeaten in 17 internationals (W12, D5).
- Argentina haven't been trailing in any of their six games at the 2014 World Cup, Germany just eight minutes (v Ghana).
- Argentina have won four out of five penalty shootouts at the World Cup, Germany won four out of four (including the one against Argentina in 2006).
- Miroslav Klose has scored more World Cup goals than any other player in history and as many as the entire current Argentinian squad (16).
- Only Lothar Matthäus (25) has played more World Cup games than Klose (23, as many as Paolo Maldini).
- Klose is the only player in both squads who has already played in a World Cup final (2002, 0-2 v Brazil).
- Argentina's Angel di Maria and Marcos Rojo lead the way in terms of crosses attempted from open play, with Rojo's haul of 25 so far bettered only by team-mate di Maria (32).
- Thomas Müller has played a hand in 16 World Cup goals in 12 appearances at the finals (10 goals and six assists).
- Müller (2010 and 2014) and Klose (2002 and 2006) are the only players in history to score 5+ goals at consecutive World Cup tournaments.
- Müller is the first-ever Golden Boot winner to reproduce his number of goals at the following World Cup (five goals in 2010, five in 2014).
- Müller could also become the first player ever to win the Golden Boot at successive World Cups.
- Lionel Messi has been the most creative player at World Cup 2014, setting up a tournament-high 21 goal-scoring chances for team-mates.
- Messi has embarked on a tournament-high 65 dribbles so far, completing (another-high) 39 of them.
- No German player has created more chances for their teammates in the 2014 World Cup than Mesut Özil (15).
- Barcelona midfielder Javier Mascherano has attempted a competition-high 509 passes so far.
- Mascherano has also made the most tackles so far - 28.
- Andre Schürrle has scored three times in just 156 minutes of action so far at this World Cup.
- Only Tim Howard (27) has made more saves in the competition than Manuel Neuer (23).
- Lionel Messi has scored five World Cup goals to date, but none of them in the knockout stages.
- Angel di Maria or Sami Khedira will become the 10th player to win both the Champions League and the World Cup in the same season. Seven of the previous nine have been German (Bayern Munich 1974) along with Christian Karembeu in 1998 and Roberto Carlos in 2002.
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Germany v Argentina: final meeting of two golden generations
Thoughts and predictions welcome on what on paper looks an amazing final and one that will be the biggest game of these players' careers.
I'll go for Argentina to win on penalties.
World Cup 2014 Final: Germany vs Argentina Watch
View Poll Results: World Cup final: Germany vs ArgentinaGermany win in 90 mins70.93%Argentina win in 90 mins15.12%Germany win after Extra time11.63%Argentina win after Extra time1.16%Germany win on penalties1.16%Argentina win on penalties00%Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll
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Last edited by DH1'; 13-07-2014 at 20:02.
- 10-07-2014 00:44
- 10-07-2014 00:52
Who else wants Argentina to win?
- 10-07-2014 00:52
Kinda hope Argentina wins and Messi sparkles so I can say with some confidence I've seen the GOAT in my lifetime... but Germany look too good and they were my pre-tournament prediction.
Germany 3-1 Argentina
- 10-07-2014 00:54
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- 10-07-2014 00:55
I hope Germany wins
- 10-07-2014 00:57
*mark my words*
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- 10-07-2014 00:59
Argentina's defence is poor. No match for Germany. 4-0 Germany.
- 10-07-2014 01:16
Think Germany will win 3-1 after extra time with the score being 1-1 after 90 minutes. Germany have the stronger squad and have had the best back 5 in the world cup so far.
- 10-07-2014 01:17
- 10-07-2014 01:19
tired anyway, good luck German.
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- 10-07-2014 01:23
I don't need to be German to find you irritating...
I'd even take a loss if only you zipped it finally.
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- 10-07-2014 01:26
Logically Germany, but I'm going to go with Argentina.
Di Maria always seems to shine in finals, so I'm pipping him to be MOTM if he recovers.
- 10-07-2014 01:28
One team will win their first WC since 1986
or the other team will win their first WC since 1990
One team will win their third WC
or the other team will win their fourth WC
One team usually made up of players based in their own country
or the other team usually made up of players based in another continent
(Actually, the stats are against ARG because GER have beaten them three times in World Cup matches since they won in 1986)
Oh, and the third placed match: BRA have home advantage but NED beat them in the previous WC...Last edited by shawn_o1; 10-07-2014 at 01:32.
- 10-07-2014 01:34
...Last edited by swan stardust; 30-09-2014 at 16:59.
- 10-07-2014 01:39
I can see Germany winning but I'm not losing hope on Argentina just yet. Argentina's defense started off pretty bad, but they have actually pulled it together, judging by this and the last game. They still have a chance.
- 10-07-2014 01:54
Germans are gonna lose
- 10-07-2014 02:56
I'm a big fan of South American football so I'll definitely be rooting for Argentina. C'mon Argentina.
- 10-07-2014 03:04
Germany got this
- 10-07-2014 03:30
Argentina is getting annihilated.
The Germans are, quite simply, superior in every way.
- 10-07-2014 11:48
I think this could go 2:0 either way. I voted for Germany, but I am worried that they will be too confident after the SF and make mistakes.