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    What religion do you follow now and what's stopping you from being a Muslim?
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    Why do you feel it warrants a thread?

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    (Original post by Reform)
    What religion do you follow now and what's stopping you from being a Muslim?
    i dont follow one now.

    nothing other than my own thoughts and considerations is stopping me.

    things like the extremism, terrorism all the bad stuff that makes the news.
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    (Original post by Pulse.)
    Why do you feel it warrants a thread?

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    theres a trend of muslim AMA's i thought i'd complete the set with this one.
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    i dont follow one now.

    nothing other than my own thoughts and considerations is stopping me.

    things like the extremism, terrorism all the bad stuff that makes the news.
    Hi so I just thought ill stick my two cents in
    All the terrorism stuff as I'm sure your aware is a very small group of people who take things out of context or take things too literally without understanding the deeper meanings of the Quran
    Example
    The Quran mentions killing people referring to disbelievers so uneducated people take it literally and go killing innocent people who aren't muslims
    Yet when u read and understand the deeper meaning and context of the Quran u realise it means only kill them if they attack the muslims first ie self defence in times of war ect

    I think it would help if you maybe purchase a book on Islam on the issues u are particularly worried about or maybe attend a mosque although that could be quite daunting for you
    it might be better to post on the islamic threads where there are more knowledgable people who could answer your questions

    Also if u don't mind me asking what made you consider Islam ?


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    what is drawing you towards islam?
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    Nice, good luck on your journey into Islam
    Islams a religion of peace, the majority real Muslims do not wholly support the views of extremists as to do what these extremists do is to go against the word of Allah. As it's for forbidden to murder and commit suicide

    As Aisha said above the words in the Qur'an mostly refers to times of war/judgement day.

    If you truly feel you can commit to Islam and it's ideals and teachings, is recommend you buy a copy of the holy Qur'an (English translation) and just take out 2-3 days to read it properly.

    Make sure it is the right decision for you, and is advise you speak to am Imam to help you understand Islam further

    Im Muslim myself and believe Islam is a religion but also a way to better your lifestyle, you'll understand this as you read the Qur'an and see the rules such as what's haram and halal,science goes hand in hand in the Qur'an so definitely check it out.



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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    what is drawing you towards islam?
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    Hi so I just thought ill stick my two cents in
    All the terrorism stuff as I'm sure your aware is a very small group of people who take things out of context or take things too literally without understanding the deeper meanings of the Quran
    Example
    The Quran mentions killing people referring to disbelievers so uneducated people take it literally and go killing innocent people who aren't muslims
    Yet when u read and understand the deeper meaning and context of the Quran u realise it means only kill them if they attack the muslims first ie self defence in times of war ect

    I think it would help if you maybe purchase a book on Islam on the issues u are particularly worried about or maybe attend a mosque although that could be quite daunting for you
    it might be better to post on the islamic threads where there are more knowledgable people who could answer your questions

    Also if u don't mind me asking what made you consider Islam ?

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    I went to a few churches.
    tried them out. went to a catholic church & anglican church. no one noticed i was there and the whole routine of everything made me feel like i really stood out cause i couldnt say the same things at the same time as everyone else.

    I went to a buddhist place and it was slightly awkward they were there to answer my questions but i didnt really go with any in mind. so they stood smiling waiting in silence lol.

    went to a black pentecostal and they spoke to me which was nice. they wanted me there which again was nice. it was very emotive stuff but it was also very showbiz. i was very put off by the performance and music stuff coming to a climax and asking people for money at this moment where everyone was in a frenzy. i could sense a business working behind the scene and it put me off.

    went to a sikh place with my friend and as much as it was nice it felt like really it was a thing for the community and not really for outsiders to come in. there was a sort of "this is your friend? thats nice. anyway..." type of vibe.

    then i went to a small mosque and there wasnt many people there but they were extremely welcoming and sincerely wanted me to join on the spot. everything was very calm but i explained that making a commitment like that is something i am very carefully considering and that as much as i felt obliged out of politeness to convert on the spot i did not feel it was right as i would be doing it out of merely politeness rather than sincere commitment.

    im yet to visit a synagog or coptic orthadox church yet. but they are still on my list.

    its hard to explain whats drawn me to islam in particular.
    im irish and have a history of drink. islam promotes not drinking alcohol.
    in irish culture a lot revolves around drink. even the religion where wine is served at communion. i went into a cafe and they served nice tea and there was some guys playing chess. and i thought that was really cool cause i love chess but have rarely found people to play it with. it may all sound like trivial stuff but i think the culture revolving around islam and community with it was something i found very calming and stilled me stresses somewhat. there was a very still collectedness. it was very stress free. and orderly. and i feel like my life lacks order.

    another element is history as the irish had strong links with egypt for it christianity and rome told britain to invade ireland to stamp out the irish church and thus severing the connection to egypt. but there was a celtic cross found in ireland with bismillah written in kufic arabic. which made me wonder if britain had not brought Catholicism by the sword that maybe we may have transitioned to islam along with egypt. far fetched i know.

    also i have always admired the dedication. i have a 2 friends who have come out of prison converted to islam. they were very angry when they went in and are now very calm and sharp minded.

    so those things have all played a part.

    Edit: another thing is respect.

    nothing is really sacred anymore. the action and outrage from muslims at the drawing of muhammad put me off. i thought it was childish and almost encouraged those who drew the images to draw even more to get such a big reaction with such little effort. but when people were talking about free speech i did wander why people found it so hard to respect what others find dear to them?

    it made me angry that there is such a lack of respect from everyone to everyone.

    so i think the respect that many muslims have and the care they take in their speech such as always saying peace be upon those who have died who are significant to them when they talk is something i have found admirable
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    (Original post by LaughingBro)
    Are you gonna be a terrorist/jihadist ?
    why not. im gonna own slaves and have a child bride while im at it too

    (just to clarify this is a joke)
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    another element is history as the irish had strong links with egypt for it christianity and rome told britain to invade ireland to stamp out the irish church and thus severing the connection to egypt. but there was a celtic cross found in ireland with bismillah written in kufic arabic. which made me wonder if britain had not brought Catholicism by the sword that maybe we may have transitioned to islam along with egypt. far fetched i know.
    A bit off-topic, but can you expand further on this topic? I have never heard about this before.
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    I went to a few churches.
    tried them out. went to a catholic church & anglican church. no one noticed i was there and the whole routine of everything made me feel like i really stood out cause i couldnt say the same things at the same time as everyone else.

    I went to a buddhist place and it was slightly awkward they were there to answer my questions but i didnt really go with any in mind. so they stood smiling waiting in silence lol.

    went to a black pentecostal and they spoke to me which was nice. they wanted me there which again was nice. it was very emotive stuff but it was also very showbiz. i was very put off by the performance and music stuff coming to a climax and asking people for money at this moment where everyone was in a frenzy. i could sense a business working behind the scene and it put me off.

    went to a sikh place with my friend and as much as it was nice it felt like really it was a thing for the community and not really for outsiders to come in. there was a sort of "this is your friend? thats nice. anyway..." type of vibe.

    then i went to a small mosque and there wasnt many people there but they were extremely welcoming and sincerely wanted me to join on the spot. everything was very calm but i explained that making a commitment like that is something i am very carefully considering and that as much as i felt obliged out of politeness to convert on the spot i did not feel it was right as i would be doing it out of merely politeness rather than sincere commitment.

    im yet to visit a synagog or coptic orthadox church yet. but they are still on my list.

    its hard to explain whats drawn me to islam in particular.
    im irish and have a history of drink. islam promotes not drinking alcohol.
    in irish culture a lot revolves around drink. even the religion where wine is served at communion. i went into a cafe and they served nice tea and there was some guys playing chess. and i thought that was really cool cause i love chess but have rarely found people to play it with. it may all sound like trivial stuff but i think the culture revolving around islam and community with it was something i found very calming and stilled me stresses somewhat. there was a very still collectedness. it was very stress free. and orderly. and i feel like my life lacks order.

    another element is history as the irish had strong links with egypt for it christianity and rome told britain to invade ireland to stamp out the irish church and thus severing the connection to egypt. but there was a celtic cross found in ireland with bismillah written in kufic arabic. which made me wonder if britain had not brought Catholicism by the sword that maybe we may have transitioned to islam along with egypt. far fetched i know.

    also i have always admired the dedication. i have a 2 friends who have come out of prison converted to islam. they were very angry when they went in and are now very calm and sharp minded.

    so those things have all played a part.

    Edit: another thing is respect.

    nothing is really sacred anymore. the action and outrage from muslims at the drawing of muhammad put me off. i thought it was childish and almost encouraged those who drew the images to draw even more to get such a big reaction with such little effort. but when people were talking about free speech i did wander why people found it so hard to respect what others find dear to them?

    it made me angry that there is such a lack of respect from everyone to everyone.

    so i think the respect that many muslims have and the care they take in their speech such as always saying peace be upon those who have died who are significant to them when they talk is something i have found admirable
    Shouldn't you convert to a religion because you believe in it and not because you like the one church/temple/mosque you went to. I don't think any place of worship can represent a whole religion. Do you feel like you believe the Qu'ran and Islam as a whole?
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    (Original post by Rlove95)
    Shouldn't you convert to a religion because you believe in it and not because you like the one church/temple/mosque you went to. I don't think any place of worship can represent a whole religion. Do you feel like you believe the Qu'ran and Islam as a whole?
    I think every single worship place represents the religion. That's why they are there, if they cannot represent their religion equally good across the globe, it means religion is failing.
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    (Original post by lNurl)
    I think every single worship place represents the religion. That's why they are there, if they cannot represent their religion equally good across the globe, it means religion is failing.
    No they don't, that's like saying every single person represents the religion they are from. Churches (and other places of worship) are just groups of people who gather in buildings, just like how people may not always be representative of certain religion, individual places of worship may not always be representative of certain religions.

    I've been to churches where I don't agree with what they say or how they approach something but I still stay a Christian because I'm aware of the fact that those specific churches don't make up for the whole of Christianity hence the large number of denominations within Christianity. I don't even have a church right not but that doesn't stop me from being a Christian. It isn't the church that makes me a Christian but my faith.
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    Favourite Qari/Reciter of the Quran?

    Favourite name of Allah except the three well known ones?

    Favourite verse of the Quran?

    Favourite Hadith?



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    Hurrah, we need more fellow Irish entering the deen!

    What's your favourite (fiction)book?
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    A bit off-topic, but can you expand further on this topic? I have never heard about this before.
    sure.

    the irish legend of christianity is a mix between norman and roman catholic propaganda. the theory is that ireland was this country where people had never heard of god and ate raw meat & would wear nothing but animal skins. this was the type of idea propagated by gerald of wales in a book (forgive me im wrong im going off memory here) "the topography of ireland" anyway legend has it the irish were living like this and then st patrick came. then all of a sudden we sprang into civilisation.

    st patrick was never really exalted by the irish and only rose to prominence later on. much more important to the irish was st columbanus, st bridget etc... st brendan and what not.

    much more likely is that african monks (most likely egyptian copts) brought monasticism to ireland first. there is written records of egyptian copts going to ireland. it is also interesting to note that the coptic cross is essentially a celtic cross. also cropping up in ireland is T crosses associated with coptic clergy as they were the shepherd staffs of egypt. in fact st anthony of egypt has his own cross the Tau Cross which is a t shaped cross. anyway the irish were not solely influenced by the copts latin christianity came in to and the irish went with the latin alphabet although we kept the coptic alphabet gamma symbol for our G in irish orthography. we also held easter on the same day as the coptic church rather than roman. indeed the irish monastic tradition of producing illuminated texts like the "book of kells" and "lindesfarne gospels" is believed to have come from egypt. in fact the blue pigment used to paint with in the book of kells was taken from a mineral that was at the time only available in afghanistan. showing that ireland had reliable trade links as far as there. although egypt was probably the intermediary.

    anyway the romans left england and the dark ages began. at this time irelands christian monks started to come and bring christianity to england and set up monasteries in lindisfarne. after ireland set up englands christian networks and started educating native british priests eventually england had its own native clergy. but it was still largely under the yoke of the irish monks of Iona rather than rome. the roman church eventually won influence in england and eventually there was a clash. the synod of whitby was basically the irish monks of iona vs the british romans. the matter ended with england choosing rome over iona. the irish monks packed up and left. this was around the 600s the irish church waned from england but still had good connections with gallic monks in mainland europe. things in egypt were complicated as this was also when the muslim conquests started there. although it seems ireland maintained links with egypt up until the viking invasions as the Ballycotton Cross dates from around this time.

    eventually Pope Adrian IV issued a papal bull to Henry II to secure catholic control over ireland. thus destroying the native irish church and starting 800 years of colonisation from britain.

    it is interesting to note the story of saint patrick. some scholars question if st patrick even existed. if you look at the elements involved. a romanised welsh man who civilised ireland and banished the snakes.
    the norman lords who particularly conquered ireland were the fitzgeralds (remember gerald of wales from earlier?). bringing the christian romanization with them. snakes are also highly representative of the egyptian coptic church. snakes have always been iconic of egypt since the pharoahs. but copts found the snake that moses's staff turned into to be greatly significant and apparently although i have not seen them myself so take this bit with a pinch of salt early coptic paintings depicted a snake being crucified on the cross. anyway so the snaked being banished from ireland could be a wink at the egyptian influence being rid from ireland. also in ancient irish myth the irish are suppose to be descendants of an egyptian princess. princess scota.

    if your interested in this stuff. you could read 3 books that im aware of on this subject. "celtic from the west" "irish orientalism" and "atlantean" i cannot remember the authors but "atlantean" is by bob quinn who also made a documentary.
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    (Original post by Rlove95)
    Shouldn't you convert to a religion because you believe in it and not because you like the one church/temple/mosque you went to. I don't think any place of worship can represent a whole religion. Do you feel like you believe the Qu'ran and Islam as a whole?
    I havent read it yet.

    each of these religions has a text. some larger than others.
    the Qu'ran, some claim, you must learn arabic to fully appreciate it.

    so i thought in an attempt to cast the net wide i would meet the ambassadors of the faith and be introduced. that would then give me a better idea of what text to actually start on.
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    (Original post by RoyalBlue7)
    Favourite Qari/Reciter of the Quran?

    Favourite name of Allah except the three well known ones?

    Favourite verse of the Quran?

    Favourite Hadith?



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    are you asking me?
    im not nearly that advanced yet.
 
 
 
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