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    powerful in the US because many Jews are multi millionaires or billionaires and some of them pour money into the pro Zionist lobbying in Capitol Hill. Also are all of the neo conservatives or most of the Republican Party pro Zionist as well? It's just I never seen a us president tell Israel to calm down over military action I've seen Obama speak in favour military action in the past over the previous military action as well. I suppose the nearest I have seen in my lifetime is Clinton trying to broker the two state solution.

    Lastly are Jews generally wealthy because they work hard or is it because some if them are wealthy because some if their ancestors had a major control over the banking industry in medieval Europe since usury laws didn't apply to them and they could lend with interest or is that a conspiracy theory?


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    Thanks for that bit of 1930's Nazism.

    It's always nice when someone comes out with some retro insults.
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    (Original post by hsv)
    powerful in the US because many Jews are multi millionaires or billionaires and some of them pour money into the pro Zionist lobbying in Capitol Hill. Also are all of the neo conservatives or most of the Republican Party pro Zionist as well? It's just I never seen a us president tell Israel to calm down over military action I've seen Obama speak in favour military action in the past over the previous military action as well. I suppose the nearest I have seen in my lifetime is Clinton trying to broker the two state solution.

    Lastly are Jews generally wealthy because they work hard or is it because some if them are wealthy because some if their ancestors had a major control over the banking industry in medieval Europe since usury laws didn't apply to them and they could lend with interest or is that a conspiracy theory?


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    (Original post by hsv)
    powerful in the US because many Jews are multi millionaires or billionaires and some of them pour money into the pro Zionist lobbying in Capitol Hill. Also are all of the neo conservatives or most of the Republican Party pro Zionist as well? It's just I never seen a us president tell Israel to calm down over military action I've seen Obama speak in favour military action in the past over the previous military action as well. I suppose the nearest I have seen in my lifetime is Clinton trying to broker the two state solution.

    Lastly are Jews generally wealthy because they work hard or is it because some if them are wealthy because some if their ancestors had a major control over the banking industry in medieval Europe since usury laws didn't apply to them and they could lend with interest or is that a conspiracy theory?


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    Yes, even Jack Straw, who is Jewish, admitted Jewish money and power controls America.

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    You know both Miliband and David Cameron are Jewish right? our governments are incredibly Jewish. Gideon Osborne is probably Jewish too I can sort of see it in him and having a Hebrew name which he hides says it all. Blair's government was very Jewish in fact wasn't he warned about that? they probably knew they would have pushed him into the Iraq war.France's government's have been incredibly Jewish but France has a large Jewish population. Certainly Jewish wealth along with the media and other connections helps them into power but look at Obama for example I'm pretty sure he's not Jewish but his staff are largely Jews.
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    (Original post by AllahAckbar)
    You know both Miliband and David Cameron are Jewish right? our governments are incredibly Jewish. Gideon Osborne is probably Jewish too I can sort of see it in him and having a Hebrew name which he hides says it all. Blair's government was very Jewish in fact wasn't he warned about that? they probably knew they would have pushed him into the Iraq war.France's government's have been incredibly Jewish but France has a large Jewish population. Certainly Jewish wealth along with the media and other connections helps them into power but look at Obama for example I'm pretty sure he's not Jewish but his staff are largely Jews.
    cameron isn't. maybe a distant ancestor. but looking at his politics, he may as well be
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    yh coz jews could charge interest christians couldnt so banks were mostly owned by jews plus the average jew has a higher iq than any other race, it is rammed down their throats from the torah and talmud that they have to be the best possible version of themselves all these factors make them the richest
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    (Original post by themanwithaplanb)
    yh coz jews could charge interest christians couldnt so banks were mostly owned by jews plus the average jew has a higher iq than any other race, it is rammed down their throats from the torah and talmud that they have to be the best possible version of themselves all these factors make them the richest
    probably

    all peoples and cultures have their "strengths" and "weaknesses"
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    All they care about is themselves, they are taught to worship material items.
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    Perhaps in the past but not so much now.

    The main reason is because of geopolitics. Israel is one of few US allies in that area and is very reliable. Saudi Arabia is another ally but isn't so dependant on the USA for existence.

    In recent years, USA have started to shun a few actions of Israel mainly due to the lowering of belief and number of Jewish people in the States.
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Thanks for that bit of 1930's Nazism.

    It's always nice when someone comes out with some retro insults.
    It's true though
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Thanks for that bit of 1930's Nazism.

    It's always nice when someone comes out with some retro insults.
    The Israelis are the modern Nazis. Trying to exterminate a race, creating bigger 'lebensraum' - land.

    Now, if you had asked me a few weeks ago I would have said Hamas was a terrorist group but from what I've read, I don't think so. You see, Nazis would have called the Free French resistance 'terrorists', hiding and killing Nazis. Hamas are fighting for their freedom, they're not like the Taliban, torturing and killing their own, they're fighting to exist.

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    no.

    Zionists & Jews are NOT the same thing, Jews are a race of people & also people who follow Judaism, many of them do NOT support Israel AT ALL in what it is doing.

    Zionists are Fascists, they believe in "purifying" the Judeo-Christian "hold land" in the middle east, they do this through exterminating any non Jews/Catholics, it's what the crusades were about and it's why Israel was created & is supported by the USA/UK (most of the west even hate them), the reason the zionist lobby is powerful in these nations is because they are run by CHRISTIAN FASCISTS who pervert the Jewish/Christian faith to justify their TERRORIST client state in their "hold land" exterminating anyone who doesn't follow their extremism.
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    It's the same in Britain you know David Cameron is Jewish right? being Jewish has nothing to do with religion, they're very much a race and these Jews call themselves the master race. The new world order is Jewish, look up New world order promised to the Jews. The Jews are on their crusade for world domination control of money, resources and even food which I believe Monsanto is involved in.The Jews must be stopped by any means necessary. Hell even the speaker for the house of commons is Jewish! I'm pretty sure Gideon Osborne is of Jewish ancestry too, he calls himself George to sound less Jewish.Obama's staff are largely Jews.
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    Have to say there's some screws lose in this thread. The Jews are not powerful because of history (though usury was a fantastic innovation), they are powerful because the USA was spawned by western Europe and saw Jewish immigration in the 1800's by which time the USA was already wealthy due to the fact that it was spawned during the industrial revolution and so had a head start on all but western Europe. They were simply in the right place.

    Today their is no Jewish conspiracy, all business people want power whether Jewish or not.

    Also Jews are not a race no matter who says they are.

    Also you can't call politicians Jews just for supporting Israel, I support them and I'm an atheist.
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    (Original post by AllahAckbar)
    You know both Miliband and David Cameron are Jewish right? our governments are incredibly Jewish. Gideon Osborne is probably Jewish too I can sort of see it in him and having a Hebrew name which he hides says it all. Blair's government was very Jewish in fact wasn't he warned about that? they probably knew they would have pushed him into the Iraq war.France's government's have been incredibly Jewish but France has a large Jewish population. Certainly Jewish wealth along with the media and other connections helps them into power but look at Obama for example I'm pretty sure he's not Jewish but his staff are largely Jews.
    I'd be careful there. Mentioning that the Jews have a powerful presence in politics and the media will usually get your post pulled. Remember, Jewish race card > Muslim race card.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Have to say there's some screws lose in this thread. The Jews are not powerful because of history (though usury was a fantastic innovation), they are powerful because the USA was spawned by western Europe and saw Jewish immigration in the 1800's by which time the USA was already wealthy due to the fact that it was spawned during the industrial revolution and so had a head start on all but western Europe. They were simply in the right place.

    Today their is no Jewish conspiracy, all business people want power whether Jewish or not.

    Also Jews are not a race no matter who says they are.

    Also you can't call politicians Jews just for supporting Israel, I support them and I'm an atheist.
    That's what the Jews want you to think. They control all of the information you read.
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    Jews are the most powerful group in the world, and their power runs along ethnic, cultural and spiritual lines. In the US, they pretty much own and are one step ahead of all the national newspapers, so they are hugely interested in persuading public opinion. Then there is the Israeli Lobby and the Christian Zionists who support them The Zionists believe that they must help the Jews return to Israel so that they can rebuild the Third Temple; for Christians in the US this will signal the return of the messiah. Jewish influence in the US is hugely powerful, that over the last decade they are pretty much running the show there, the banks and media outlets, for example.

    In the UK Jewish influence is also seen. As is Joe Biden in the US, David Cameron is a commited Zionist. Ed Miliband is probably a crypto-Socialist; his father was a Marxist professor. As others have said here, David Cameron has Jewish ancestry, going back, apparently, to Elijah Levit. David Cameron, an ascendent of the masonic king William IV, also serves the Freemasons and is married through the Astor family.

    These might seem like tenuous links but most of them have some truth to them. America is a land of power politics, with groups of people with peculiar political and cultural beliefs ready to influence politicians. These are the Zionist groups mainly. I'm not sure it is as so sark as that in the UK though. Not sure about Europe either. The push towards EU state federalism sounds like a modern American idea. Then again, Europe, like the rest of the world is run on big money and power, and the big banks of Europe have links with Rothschild banks in the US.

    "I care not what puppet is placed on
    the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...
    The man that controls Britain's money
    supply controls the British Empire.
    And I control the money supply."

    (Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild)
 
 
 
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