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    Since records begun, boys always outperformed girls in school. The feminists claimed this was because of sexism and an education system that didn't cater to their particular learning styles. However, in the last few years, it's girls who are now outperforming boys in school.

    Why is this?

    The feminists, without a hint of irony, will claim that they were right all along; that girls getting better results is proof that the education system was sexist and biased against their learning methods.....in other words, that girls were always superior.

    But, what they are not mentioning is that the education system has been fundamentally transformed and is now completely biased against males and their style of learning......it gets worse, because those boys who are unable to adjust to the new system are then labelled mentally ill and drugged into conformity; they call this 'mental disorder' ADHD.

    This systematic and institutional anti-male discrimination is celebrated because the matriarchal education system only views success through the lens of female accomplishment. To feminists, if girls are doing better in school, then its proof that schools are becoming more equal. Its Orwellian logic which cannot be challenged by reason.

    The only thing we can do is bring back boys and girls schools, and cater to both styles of learning. I don't think we should go back to male centric learning, but clearly, the anti male discrimination has to end and boys have to be given a chance to grow and develop in a system which caters to them and their needs.
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    At my school literally there was this teacher in a rubber SS uniform and if you were White and had a penis, she would whip you and write "privileged scum" across your forehead
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    The is no discrimination or sexism; if you do the work you'll get good grades. All this boys and girls should learn in a different way is rubbish; you're not given this choice in university and the world of work. Boys and girls should have to sit down and do controlled assessments, coursework and exams whether they like it or not, and bother to learn the different ways to approach these tasks, correctly. The system at the moment is actually quite good, forcing the same learning methods on everyone, so both genders have to adapt to learn in the same ways.

    When you're 21 and out of university, your employer is not going to let you have the choice between writing a report for them to be on their desk in two hours, or writing a piece of coursework that you can give to them in six months.
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    this is a dumb opinion because in iran there are no mixed schools, yet there are still a higher population of girl who go to uni and girls still achieve fab results despite the fact that boys have been taught in their own "male centric" schools and girls have been taught in their own ''female centric" schools

    so how do you explain that huh

    also please define male centric methods of teaching? and female centric methods of teaching?

    schools are schools dude chill
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    (Original post by Pectorac)
    The is no discrimination or sexism; if you do the work you'll get good grades. All this boys and girls should learn in a different way is rubbish; you're not given this choice in university and the world of work. Boys and girls should have to sit down and do controlled assessments, coursework and exams whether they like it or not, and bother to learn the different ways to approach these tasks, correctly. The system at the moment is actually quite good, forcing the same learning methods on everyone, so both genders have to adapt to learn in the same ways.

    When you're 21 and out of university, your employer is not going to let you have the choice between writing a report for them to be on their desk in two hours, or writing a piece of coursework that you can give to them in six months.
    I think the point is that the schooling system was specifically changed to make girls do better, not to improve overall education.

    Mind you I think most traditional exams where no information is given to candidates (which typically guys do better in) should be scrapped. You never have to do exams in real life so why should people do them in school?


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    Personally I actually think it's more even now (although perhaps it could be slightly more even than it currently is, too).
    If boys are supposed to be better at controlled assessments (exams), and girls are supposed to be better at coursework (all generally speaking), then surely the right approach is to have the system ensure that children are tested pretty evenly between the two methods?

    Having said all of that, as another user has said, if the student puts all of their effort in they will get the grades. If you revise properly, then you will do well in exams; likewise if you do your research and put as much effort as possible in your coursework you will get top results.
    This is assuming the children have actually been taught the information properly in the first place, of course, but if they haven't then both sets of genders are at the same disadvantage.
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    (Original post by TheMoho)
    this is a dumb opinion because in iran there are no mixed schools, yet there are still a higher population of girl who go to uni and girls still achieve fab results despite the fact that boys have been taught in their own "male centric" schools and girls have been taught in their own ''female centric" schools

    so how do you explain that huh

    also please define male centric methods of teaching? and female centric methods of teaching?

    schools are schools dude chill
    You can't just bring up some individual country that goes against OPs theory and say their opinion is dumb... I could pick out like 20 countries with no mixed schools but poor female uni entrance proportions. Also, I don't know if you meant "a higher proportion of girls who go to uni" but if you did mean population... the total population of the countries are different...

    (Original post by Pectorac)
    The is no discrimination or sexism; if you do the work you'll get good grades. All this boys and girls should learn in a different way is rubbish; you're not given this choice in university and the world of work. Boys and girls should have to sit down and do controlled assessments, coursework and exams whether they like it or not, and bother to learn the different ways to approach these tasks, correctly. The system at the moment is actually quite good, forcing the same learning methods on everyone, so both genders have to adapt to learn in the same ways.

    When you're 21 and out of university, your employer is not going to let you have the choice between writing a report for them to be on their desk in two hours, or writing a piece of coursework that you can give to them in six months.
    I don't think the OP meant different examination methods, I think they meant different teaching styles. There has been research into different styles of teaching (e.g. the extent to which material is dictated per the syllabus instead of being explained and then applied) showing differences in the way males and females think. I personally think it's at University where you do get the choice since at that point you learn by yourself anyway predominantly
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    Since records begun, boys always outperformed girls in school. The feminists claimed this was because of sexism and an education system that didn't cater to their particular learning styles. However, in the last few years, it's girls who are now outperforming boys in school.

    Why is this?

    The feminists, without a hint of irony, will claim that they were right all along; that girls getting better results is proof that the education system was sexist and biased against their learning methods.....in other words, that girls were always superior.

    But, what they are not mentioning is that the the education system has been fundamentally transformed and is now completely biased against males and their style of learning......but it gets worse, because those boys who are unable to adjust to the new system are then labelled mentally ill and drugged into conformity; they call this 'mental disorder' ADHD.

    This systematic and institutional anti-male discrimination is celebrated because the matriarchal education system only views success through the lens of female accomplishment. To feminists, if girls are doing better in school, then its proof that schools are becoming more equal. Its Orwellian logic which cannot be challenged by reason.

    The only thing we can do is bring back boys and girls schools, and cater to both styles of learning. I don't think we should go back to male centric learning, but clearly, the anti male discrimination has to end and boys have to be given a chance to grow and develop in a system which caters to them and their needs.
    Poor you, what must it be like in your head? Why don't they have male and female universities as well as schools. They could have Manchester University and Womanchester University.
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    Since records begun, boys always outperformed girls in school. The feminists claimed this was because of sexism and an education system that didn't cater to their particular learning styles. However, in the last few years, it's girls who are now outperforming boys in school.

    Why is this?

    The feminists, without a hint of irony, will claim that they were right all along; that girls getting better results is proof that the education system was sexist and biased against their learning methods.....in other words, that girls were always superior.
    Provide evidence to back up all of these claims.

    (Original post by imtelling)
    But, what they are not mentioning is that the the education system has been fundamentally transformed and is now completely biased against males and their style of learning......but it gets worse, because those boys who are unable to adjust to the new system are then labelled mentally ill and drugged into conformity; they call this mental disorder ADHD.
    May you give some examples of this bias against males?

    May you provide some cases where male students have been diagnosed with ADHD specifically because they cannot cope with this new bias against males?

    (Original post by imtelling)
    This systematic and institutional anti-male discrimination is celebrated because the matriarchal education system only views success through the lens of female accomplishment. To feminists, if girls are doing better in school, then its proof that schools are becoming more equal. Its Orwellian logic which cannot be challenged by reason.
    Once again: provide examples/evidence to support your claims. what anti-male discrimination is there? When has it been accepted by the education institution itself?

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    At my school literally there was this teacher in a rubber SS uniform and if you were White and had a penis she would whip you and write "privileged scum" across your forehead
    I remember at my school all we talked about in the maths class was how male mathematicians worshiped Satan and how every male in the world should be put to death. The teacher (female, obviously) had like 10 knives in one of her desks. She told us that she'd kill all boys in the school when her feminist allies took over the world.
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    and how is the system biased against boys? In what way are we actually disadvantaged?
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    and how is the system biased against boys? In what way are we actually disadvantaged?
    The system was specifically changed to help girls. But it's unclear whether the system was actually equal in the first place.


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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    At my school literally there was this teacher in a rubber SS uniform and if you were White and had a penis she would whip you and write "privileged scum" across your forehead

    (Original post by SHallowvale)
    I remember at my school all we talked about in the maths class was how male mathematicians worshiped Satan and how every male in the world should be put to death. The teacher (female, obviously) had like 10 knives in one of her desks. She told us that she'd kill all boys in the school when her feminist allies took over the world.
    Ok. I went to a school staffed by self-medicating addicts, sluts and paedophiles. But the above anecdotes are scary.
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    (Original post by LightBlueSoldier)
    The system was specifically changed to help girls. But it's unclear whether the system was actually equal in the first place.


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    yeah, not really answering my question. How is it biased against boys?
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    At my school literally there was this teacher in a rubber SS uniform and if you were White and had a penis she would whip you and write "privileged scum" across your forehead
    Where was this again?

    I normally pay significant wedge for this sort of errrm specialist provision, it's excellent to hear I can actually have my needs catered for by the state.
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    yeah, not really answering my question. How is it biased against boys?
    I don't know know if it actually is. I don't know how you could possibly determine that, unless you were to adopt the common feminist assumption that men and women have identical minds, where by definition the schooling system would be against boys.


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    (Original post by baconwrappedeggs)
    Because males are only interested in going on the piss on the weekend with the lads, getting chavvy tattoos and going on holiday to Magaluf with their £12k a year wage.
    If you ignore the crude stereotype, this is essentially the problem. The education system itself is not anti-male. As someone pointed out, exams favour males compared to coursework, and we have a system built almost entirely around exams. The fact that boys do better at the highest level of performance (getting more A*s and being in higher proportion at the most competitive universities) shows that there is nothing anti-male about the education system. The problem lies in communities where masculinity is opposed to education (predominantly working class white and black communities).
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    If you ignore the crude stereotype, this is essentially the problem. The education system itself is not anti-male. As someone pointed out, exams favour males compared to coursework, and we have a system built almost entirely around exams. The fact that boys do better at the highest level of performance (getting more A*s and being in higher proportion at the most competitive universities) shows that there is nothing anti-male about the education system. The problem lies in communities where masculinity is opposed to education (predominantly working class white and black communities).
    Yeah I also think that what he said is pretty accurate.


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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    If you ignore the crude stereotype, this is essentially the problem. The education system itself is not anti-male. As someone pointed out, exams favour males compared to coursework, and we have a system built almost entirely around exams. The fact that boys do better at the highest level of performance (getting more A*s and being in higher proportion at the most competitive universities) shows that there is nothing anti-male about the education system. The problem lies in communities where masculinity is opposed to education (predominantly working class white and black communities).
    This, so much this. I would also like to point out that while coursework tends to favour girls, that doesn't mean that increasing the amount of it in the system is anti male. Coursework tests important skills that we can't remove from the courses just because men are worse at them.
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    (Original post by lucaf)
    This, so much this. I would also like to point out that while coursework tends to favour girls, that doesn't mean that increasing the amount of it in the system is anti male. Coursework tests important skills that we can't remove from the courses just because men are worse at them.
    And the honest truth is the vast amount of work done in real life is more like coursework than exams.


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    (Original post by LightBlueSoldier)
    And the honest truth is the vast amount of work done in real life is more like coursework than exams.


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    Exactly, although exams are still necessary to test the large amount of course content efficiently
 
 
 
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