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As an international student who is accepted to both Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne and Paris 2 Panthéon-Assas to study law, I believe to have some useful information for aspiring students on applications and the universities (although I finally decided to study law in the UK). So I will just leave this thread on here, and if you feel like you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask!

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is there a ranking system in France? Also if you wanted to do a combination of a language with law, do you know which universites this is possible at? Thank you
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I've always wondered how schools are ranked in France. From what I know everyone goes to their local uni and local unis are forced to guarantee places for local students? The very brightest can take a test to go to the Grande Ecole but otherwise all schools are the same. Is this true? If so how come some schools like Pierre and Marie Uni are known for medicine etc? What happens to the old historic schools like Montpellier, do they still retain their prestige under the new uni system?

Lastly which is the best university in Paris and which is the best university for law in Paris?
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is there a ranking system in France? Also if you wanted to do a combination of a language with law, do you know which universites this is possible at? Thank you
We don't have a ranking system of universities (only business and Engineering schools).
There are some "double-licences" in France, but few offer a combination of Law with a foreign language. I still have found this: http://www.univ-paris1.fr/ufr/ufr07/...s-et-etranger/
which is a French and English (or US) Law degree at university of Paris I, in association with KCL or Cornell. Seems excellent.
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I've always wondered how schools are ranked in France. From what I know everyone goes to their local uni and local unis are forced to guarantee places for local students? The very brightest can take a test to go to the Grande Ecole but otherwise all schools are the same. Is this true? If so how come some schools like Pierre and Marie Uni are known for medicine etc? What happens to the old historic schools like Montpellier, do they still retain their prestige under the new uni system?

Lastly which is the best university in Paris and which is the best university for law in Paris?
Yeah, French unis have standardised degrees, so there aren't a lot of differences, except for some special degrees, like the double-licences mentioned above. Professional Masters are also different between unis.

The Grandes Ecoles aren't only for the brightest, many of them have difficulties finding students. Only a few have a lot of prestige: HEC and ESSEC (Business), Polytechnique, Centrale, Ponts-et-Chausées, Supélec... (Engineering), ENS (Sciences and Arts & Humanities), SciencePo (Politics, Administration, Economics). There are specific rankings for Business and Engineering schools. Most of the provincial great schools aren't that great.

Pierre & Marie Curie is famous for its research, not for its teaching. Montpellier is only know for its history. Medicine degrees are special, as there is a national exam at the end of the 1st year, in order to limit the input of students (medicine professions are regulated in France), so unis are all the same until masters.

The best Law uni in France is Paris II Assas, Paris I is very good too. In addition, SciencePo has started to offer Law degrees.
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Yeah, French unis have standardised degrees, so there aren't a lot of differences, except for some special degrees, like the double-licences mentioned above. Professional Masters are also different between unis.

The Grandes Ecoles aren't only for the brightest, many of them have difficulties finding students. Only a few have a lot of prestige: HEC and ESSEC (Business), Polytechnique, Centrale, Ponts-et-Chausées, Supélec... (Engineering), ENS (Sciences and Arts & Humanities), SciencePo (Politics, Administration, Economics). There are specific rankings for Business and Engineering schools. Most of the provincial great schools aren't that great.

Pierre & Marie Curie is famous for its research, not for its teaching. Montpellier is only know for its history. Medicine degrees are special, as there is a national exam at the end of the 1st year, in order to limit the input of students (medicine professions are regulated in France), so unis are all the same until masters.

The best Law uni in France is Paris II Assas, Paris I is very good too. In addition, SciencePo has started to offer Law degrees.
Thanks for the information, are students allowed to apply anywhere in the country for university or are they mainly restricted to their local universities?

If there aren't rankings, do students choose their universities based on course or location then? Are there specific universities known for specific specialized areas?
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Thanks for the information, are students allowed to apply anywhere in the country for university or are they mainly restricted to their local universities?

If there aren't rankings, do students choose their universities based on course or location then? Are there specific universities known for specific specialized areas?
Yes we can apply to the university we want, but as they are all the same, most of the French go in their local uni for undergraduate studies.

There are some specialisation. In big cities (Paris, Lille, Bordeaux...), unis are split by disciplines. Lille I only offer sciences courses, Lille II: Law and Medicine, Lille III: Arts & humanities.
Sometimes, there is a political difference: Lyon II is left-wing, while Lyon III is seen as right-wing.
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Does anyone know how many unis you can apply to? Is there a maximum or not?
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Hey people,

As an international student who is accepted to both Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne and Paris 2 Panthéon-Assas to study law, I believe to have some useful information for aspiring students on applications and the universities (although I finally decided to study law in the UK). So I will just leave this thread on here, and if you feel like you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask!

Did you study as an undergraduate?
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Does anyone know how many unis you can apply to? Is there a maximum or not?
Afaik, there isn't any limitation.
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Does anyone know how many unis you can apply to? Is there a maximum or not?
Hi, if you are an international and are applying through CampusFrance, you have 3 university choices.
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I've always wondered how schools are ranked in France. From what I know everyone goes to their local uni and local unis are forced to guarantee places for local students? The very brightest can take a test to go to the Grande Ecole but otherwise all schools are the same. Is this true? If so how come some schools like Pierre and Marie Uni are known for medicine etc? What happens to the old historic schools like Montpellier, do they still retain their prestige under the new uni system?

Lastly which is the best university in Paris and which is the best university for law in Paris?
Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne and Paris 2 Panthéon-Assas are the best for law, with Sorbonne being known more in the world. Other than that, there are good law schools outside Paris as well. And as you are saying the real deal is to get into the Grandes Ecoles.

The thing about French universities is that they accept almost everyone but only a few can finish. This is the case with for instance Sorbonne where for the law school only 1/4 can finish in the normal time whereas others fail or drop out.
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