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    So I come from an aristocratic family, attended a good public school and hopefully off to St Andrews or Newcastle Universities in September. Should I be ashamed of being an aristocrat? It seems to me like people are always encouraged to be proud of their working-class roots but that people born into established families are, more often than not, made to feel ashamed. I'm not going to say which family or anything, but my siblings and I have the title of Lord - I would never dare use it or try to make it public knowledge for fear of being judged for it. Is there an unfair case of reverse snobbery? In school there wasn't really a problem, but I play rugby and a guy on my team found out and suddenly I was deemed a "posh tw**". I dated someone about a year ago and when they found out they conveniently didn't want to be together anymore. I suspect that at St Andrews or Newcastle (no idea if I've got the grades for my firm), I'll encounter similar problems if people know. This would never happen if I was from the other extreme of the class scale. Is this fair?
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    no - you're lucky, not unlucky. be proud of your material worth, whether you worked for it or not - you are privileged, not cursed. be happy that you are fortunate while others are not.
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    Yes you didn't make it into Cambridge or Oxford...
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    Joking, ur a decent lad just don't be a **** about ur aristocratic background
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    Its not really fair, but some people will inevitably react like that. But don't let it make you feel ashamed of your family background-its not something you can do anything about, or should want to alter. People tease me about even just sounding 'posh'
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    Well, obviously you can't help being from that type of family, just like I can't help being from a relatively working class, poor family, and I sometimes get belittled/mocked/judged for that. But I think that people will judge on what you stand for, rather than who you are as a person. It's like when people hate on the royal family: its not THEM they hate, its the fact that in many people's eyes (including mine) they represent elitism and not the common good of Britain. Many of the people who you meet may instantly judge you as a posh t**t because they don't agree with your family and its wealth - there are so many people living in poverty around you and therefore it seems selfish that you and your family have no such issues. Statistics recently showed that the five richest families in Britain have more money put together than the poorest 120,000 - does this really seem fair to you? Probably not.

    But having said all this, it's unfair to judge you as a 'posh t**t who hasn't experienced any hardship or problems' simply because of your background. I for one know I wouldn't do this, even though your family's wealth would make me feel really angry. I just think it's a shame how there is such a great deal of inequality, and for many people, your lifestyle, and the lifestyle of your family, seems immoral and unfair. But they should get to know you before judging.
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    (Original post by ZeniB)
    Well, obviously you can't help being from that type of family, just like I can't help being from a relatively working class, poor family, and I sometimes get belittled/mocked/judged for that. But I think that people will judge on what you stand for, rather than who you are as a person. It's like when people hate on the royal family: its not THEM they hate, its the fact that in many people's eyes (including mine) they represent elitism and not the common good of Britain. Many of the people who you meet may instantly judge you as a posh t**t because they don't agree with your family and its wealth - there are so many people living in poverty around you and therefore it seems selfish that you and your family have no such issues. Statistics recently showed that the five richest families in Britain have more money put together than the poorest 120,000 - does this really seem fair to you? Probably not.

    But having said all this, it's unfair to judge you as a 'posh t**t who hasn't experienced any hardship or problems' simply because of your background. I for one know I wouldn't do this, even though your family's wealth would make me feel really angry. I just think it's a shame how there is such a great deal of inequality, and for many people, your lifestyle, and the lifestyle of your family, seems immoral and unfair. But they should get to know you before judging.
    Wealth? My family is one of those 'sit in the country house freezing to death because we can't afford to heat the place' types...
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    Don't worry. St.Andrews and Newcastle are rah central. You'll be just fine.
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    (Original post by Gabriel96)
    Wealth? My family is one of those 'sit in the country house freezing to death because we can't afford to heat the place' types...
    and yet you went to a public school? :confused:
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    (Original post by ZeniB)
    and yet you went to a public school? :confused:
    You clearly don't know enough about the financial priorities of aristocratic families.
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    (Original post by Gabriel96)
    You clearly don't know enough about the financial priorities of aristocratic families.
    I just don't really get how you're saying you can't afford stuff and at the same time you went to a private school probably costing more than £5000 per term? It doesn't make sense, surely heating a house is far more important? :confused:
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    You're an aristocrat yet you're going to Newcastle. :rofl::lol:
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    (Original post by ZeniB)
    I just don't really get how you're saying you can't afford stuff and at the same time you went to a private school probably costing more than £5000 per term? It doesn't make sense, surely heating a house is far more important? :confused:
    I didn't say I can't afford stuff at all, I just made a remark about how we're not that type of aristocratic family with loads of money that the other person was thinking in assuming I had lots of wealth in the family. We're obviously not poor, just nowhere near the wealth of what people assume aristocratic families have. The thing about heating the house is a joke (because that's the imagine a lot of people have about "poorer" families who have lost all there money). Going to public school is a tradition away which would be a big priority within the family.
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    (Original post by TheTechN1304)
    You're an aristocrat yet you're going to Newcastle. :rofl::lol:
    And? Princess Eugenie? Earl Grovsvernor (one of the wealthiest young aristocrats in Britain)? Not that I come from a family as established as these people but Newcastle has an good rep within aristocratic circles for being a good place to go. It's a favourite of the top public schools (wear a lot of aristocrats tend to go). It's the No 1 destination for Harrow School and has been for many years. So what's your point?
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    (Original post by Gabriel96)
    I didn't say I can't afford stuff at all, I just made a remark about how we're not that type of aristocratic family with loads of money that the other person was thinking in assuming I had lots of wealth in the family. We're obviously not poor, just nowhere near the wealth of what people assume aristocratic families have. The thing about heating the house is a joke (because that's the imagine a lot of people have about "poorer" families who have lost all there money). Going to public school is a tradition away which would be a big priority within the family.
    did you get in on merit or just because of your background like the royals?
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    (Original post by ZeniB)
    did you get in on merit or just because of your background like the royals?
    People like you and what you've just said is the exact reason I need to feel ashamed of being from an aristocratic family.
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    Do not feel ashamed, be proud. If people do not like you because you have had better living-conditions, then let them. They are just completely jealous.
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    (Original post by Gabriel96)
    People like you and what you've just said is the exact reason I need to feel ashamed of being from an aristocratic family.
    Not ashamed, no. It just gets to me how some people (like the royals) live privileged lives simply because of some battle that took place hundreds of years ago. It's not fair that some people are born with all the advantages whilst others, either because of family or location of birth, are not given those advantages. That's what I have an issue with, like, why the hell did Prince Charles get into Cambridge? No reason at all other than the fact he's Prince Charles. And that's not fair. That's why I resent people like you - on principle of the fact that you have so many advantages and such a privileged life relative to others, and you haven't even worked for that. It's so wrong.

    But I don't resent YOU as a person, because I don't know you. I just resent what you stand for. You should read Kane and Abel by Jeffrey Archer
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    I'm on the socialist end of things, but to me, that means not shaming anyone for the circumstances of their birth. Rather, it's what you choose to do with your life and money - and I certainly wouldn't try and shame you for your family's choices, things you have no control over. I'm a comp school girl from a working/lower-middle background and I have mates who went to top private schools. And mates like me, too. Be yourself, and if anyone shames you for it, they're the shallower person.
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    (Original post by ZeniB)
    Not ashamed, no. It just gets to me how some people (like the royals) live privileged lives simply because of some battle that took place hundreds of years ago. It's not fair that some people are born with all the advantages whilst others, either because of family or location of birth, are not given those advantages. That's what I have an issue with, like, why the hell did Prince Charles get into Cambridge? No reason at all other than the fact he's Prince Charles. And that's not fair. That's why I resent people like you - on principle of the fact that you have so many advantages and such a privileged life relative to others, and you haven't even worked for that. It's so wrong.

    But I don't resent YOU as a person, because I don't know you. I just resent what you stand for. You should read Kane and Abel by Jeffrey Archer
    I agree, it's not fair that I was born with certain advantages and others weren't but, thus, that's life in all its unfairness. I agree with you on the Prince Charles point but that doesn't still go on (granted until fairly recently) - he's of a different generation. Resenting someone based on their birth (and everything that goes with that) is wrong! How would it sound if I said: "that's why I resent people like you - people that are born into poor families"? And I don't stand for anything either, I just happened to have been born into a certain family and attended certain schools/potential universities. I think you seem like a really nice person but this is the stuff that forces me to be ashamed and secretive about my background.
 
 
 
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